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06/18/06, 12:18 PM
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Homegrown food tax
Has anyone ever considered that the NAIS may eventually lead to a homegrown food tax? I think more states will go to food taxes because of losing tax $ otherwise. I think it's only a matter of time. More folks might try and raise their own chickens and such. When will we be (*voluntary*) mandated to report what plant diseases or pests we have on our properties and report every morsel we grow? And to think we might share homegrown fruits and veggies with a friend outside the confines of our property...it should surely be tracked! (That was a sarcastic comment ICYDK.)
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06/18/06, 03:31 PM
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This has already happened. I read a thread on here awhile back about a farmer
who was forced to pay taxes on the grain he grew.
The government's position was that he should pay the sales tax equal to what he would have bought - if he hadn't grown his own.
Anyone else remember this story? I can't find the thread...
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06/18/06, 05:20 PM
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Those laws exist. Been on the books many years.
In my state, one should pay an equivilent sales tax on items we buy from out of state - it's on the income tax forms. About 7% of everything we have UPS'ed in.
As well as the tax on food consumed, yadda yadda yadda.
Not many prople bother with those extremist govt requirements.
Look over your state laws, & you will find those laws have been there for many many years.
But as the ability of the govt to track & report things becomes easier (computers, bar codes, web sites, inventory tracking, shipping tracking, etc.), the enforcement of those ignored laws becomes cost effective for the various governments, and they will be able to enforce them.
All of us are breaking the law every day - just how it is in the paperwork nightmare of 200+ years of government.
Enforcement is becoming cheaper, and that is catching up with the segment of population common around this web site.
It already has caught up with many other groups of people. Truck drivers, farmers, business owners, ....
Your turn, I guess.
I dislike big government as much as the next person, so it bothers me too. But, it's been coming for a long long time, and no one complained enough back then. Not sure there is a lot to do about it this late in the game.
Sure is a pain tho.
--->Paul
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06/19/06, 12:37 AM
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I will tell you what I will do when they start taxing me on the food I grow in my garden and animals we raise to eat, I will get out of the country to a free place with my family so fast our heads will spin.
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06/19/06, 09:02 AM
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In Missouri, you are taxed according to the size of your garden.
In Kansas, you are not.
But, in Missouri the taxes are lower than in Kansas.
Death and taxes: they get you one way or the other.
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06/19/06, 09:35 AM
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Great, helicopter flyovers looking for untaxed carrots.
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06/19/06, 09:49 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Missouri
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Originally Posted by Terri
In Missouri, you are taxed according to the size of your garden.
In Kansas, you are not.
But, in Missouri the taxes are lower than in Kansas.
Death and taxes: they get you one way or the other.
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I'm in MO and have never heard of a "garden tax". Do you have a link or other info to substantiate this claim? I think what some folks are confusing here is that if, for example, you have shown the cost of feed, shelter, vet bills, etc. as a tax deduction for an animal you slaughter for personal use, then yes, you are supposed to show the fair market value of that animal as income.
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06/19/06, 09:52 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Missouri
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Originally Posted by jnap31
I will tell you what I will do when they start taxing me on the food I grow in my garden and animals we raise to eat, I will get out of the country to a free place with my family so fast our heads will spin.
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And where would that be? If such a place existed I suspect it would soon be overrun with disgruntled folks from all around the globe. What we have in this country is far from perfect, but it beats any other place I am aware of.
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06/19/06, 09:56 AM
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Kansas
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Originally Posted by 65284
I'm in MO and have never heard of a "garden tax". Do you have a link or other info to substantiate this claim? I think what some folks are confusing here is that if, for example, you have shown the cost of feed, shelter, vet bills, etc. as a tax deduction for an animal you slaughter for personal use, then yes, you are supposed to show the fair market value of that animal as income.
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No, I don't. I THINK that I was told this by a Kansas tax preparer, but it was several years ago that I heard this.
I would like to be wrong, and possibly I am!
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