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Originally Posted by northstarpermie
www.daycreek.com has a ton of info on cordwood masonary. There are people from all types of regions, experiences, & building techniques on that forum. Very helpful & friendly as well. Helped us out tremendously. I highly recommend building a small shed first or help someone else to get hands on experience.
We are currently building a small shed. All three reasons you asked about are why we are going to use cordwood. We have all the materials used on our land already, so it's cost effictive. It can be energy efficient if done right. Easy to build once you have the hang of it, but is labor intensive.
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NORTHSTARPERMIE...............WELL SINCE ALAN OF UP DACREEK IS STILL WORKING ON HIS VERY FIRST AND ONLY LOG STRUCTURE BE SUSPECT OF HIS INFORMATION.HE HAS NOTHING TO SAY THATS TOTALLY INDEPENDENT OF THE BOOKS HE READ.HE TELLS PEOPLE TO BUILD AS THE BOOKS DO SINCE HE HAS NO REAL EXPERIENCE. PLUS HE BUILT WITH PAPERCRETE WHICH ISN`T TRIED AND TESTED YET.ALAN FOLLOWS THE AUTHORS MISTAKES AND QUOTES THEIR MISINFORMATION ALL THE TIME.
[1]HE GIVES WRONG INFORMATION ON FELLING,PEELING AND TREATMENTS
[2]TALKS ABOUT WOOD LIKE IT DOESN`T ROT.WHEREAS ALL NORTH AMERICAN WOOD ROTS.
[3]HE EVEN BUILT HIS ON THE GROUND
[4]HE TALKS ABOUT BEING A GREEN BOARD BUT SOME OF THE MEET THE MASONS USED HIGHLY TOXIC BUILDING MATERIALS.I TRIED TO GET ALAN TO
POST A WARNING AND MY POSTS WERE STOPPED AND I WAS BOOTED OFF THE BOARD.EVEN PAPERCRETE OR PULP PLANT SLURRY CONTAINS HUNDREDS OF TOXIC CHEMICALS.
[5]THE FACT THAT HE PROMOTES THE AUTHORS BOOKS MAKES HIS CREDABILITY TAINTED.EVEN HIS LIST OF WHAT HE CALLS ALL THE KNOWN CORDWOOD BOOKS IS INCOMPLETE.MAYBE THERE IS PAYOLA INVOLVED.
[6]HE RIDICULED MY SEASONING METHODS ONCE AND SAID YOU ONLY NEEDED A COUPLE OF WEEKS.LOL! PLUS HE WAS SPEWING OUT MORE INFO FOR YEARS BEFORE HE DID ANY MUDDING.UNFORTUNATELY NEWBEES SEEM TO LIKE BOGUS INFO LIKE SEASONING LOGS FOR A FEW WEEKS RATHER THAN LISTEN TO SOMEONE WITH 43 YEARS EXPERIENCE SAYS 2-3 YEARS.
[7]ALAN LETS EVERYONE POST INFO AND TIPS BUT TO ME THATS KAOTIC.
I TEACH ON MY BOARD AND RECOMMEND PEOPLE READ TO LEARN BEFORE THEY OFFER UP ADVICE.NORMALLY I`M CHALLENGED BY PEOPLE WHO KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT THE SUBJECT.IF I LET THESE PEOPLE GIVE ADVICE THEN THEY WILL RUIN PEOPLES EFFORTS TO BUILD PROPERLY.ALL TYPES OF BUILDING EXPERIENCES,WELL ONLY THE QUALIFIED SHOULD SPEAK OUT.
[8]THERE WAS A GUY ON UP DACREEK WHO IS/WAS A MODERATOR ON ANOTHER BOARD.HE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED BUILDING WITH PCB`S, CCA`S, CREOSOTE.THATS TOXIC AND ALAN LET THAT GO ON HIS GREEN BOARD.LOL!THATS WHAT I MEAN BY A TON OF CRAP AND LETTING PEOPLE BE HEARD THAT SHOULD BE SILENCED.
READ MY REVIEWS OF THE CORDWOOD BOOKS,THIS IS FROM WHAT ALAN QUOTES.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cordwood2
SO A TON OF CRAP INFORMATION IS STILL A TON OF CRAP!
MIND YOU,IN TIME ALAN WILL LEARN FROM BUILDING AND BE ABLE TO SPEAK FOR HIMSELF.WHICH IS BETTER THAN QUOTING MISINFORMATION FROM BOOKS.WISDOM COMES WITH EXPERIENCE!BUT RIGHT NOW I REFER TO HIS BOARD AS ABOVE AS UP DACREEK.[IN REFERENCE TO BEING UP THE CREEK WITHOUT A PADDLE IF YOU FOLLOW THE ADVICE.]SHOULD HE VIEW A LOT OF OLDER CORDWOOD HOMES HE WOULD SEE WHERE THE AUTHORS HAVE FAILED.
DROP BYE MY CORDWOOD NEWBEE PAGE AND ONCE YOU READ IT YOU ARE CAPABLE OF EXAMINING THE WORK OF THE SO CALLED EXPERTS AND EVEN INSTRUCT ON UP DACREEK.
http://maxpages.com/cordwood
YOU MENTION THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY ,WELL RIGHT NOW NONE OF THE AUTHORS HAS EVER BUILT A 24" CORDWOOD WALL AS I RECOMMEND.
THE AUTHORS HAVE CLAIMED ENERGY EFFICIENCY WHEN THEY BUILT 9"-12" WALLS WITH AN R=4 TO AN R=6.WOW!THAT WOULDN`T MEET CODE ANYWHERE IN NORTH AMERICA.MY 24" WALL WILL.
CORDWOODGUY
PS: I WAS LICENSED TO TEACH CORDWOOD BACK IN 1979 AND TO GET THE LICENSE I WAS GRILLED BY AN ARCHITECT AND AN ENGINEER.WITHOUT THEIR APPROVAL I WOULDN`T HAVE BEEN LICENSED.I ACTUALLY TRASHED A CORDWOOD BOOK THE ENGINEER WAS FAMILIAR WITH.I PROINTED OUT ALL THE MISTAKES IN THE BOOK.HE AS AN ENGINEER REALIZED I WAS RIGHT.