Earth Filled Tires Shelter Question

[Tarot Farm]

Ok, I can get all of the used tires that I want for free; some folks have offered me cash to take them too. I know that you can make shelters, etc. from earth filled tires...so I have been thinking about making a tornado shelter/root cellar out of earth filled tires. My question is...would this make a good tornado shelter as well as a root cellar?

Also, what do you use to cover the 'inside' of the cellar with? I seen a earth filled tire shelter where they use chicken wire/mesh and cement to finish the inside of the shelter...but I was wondering if there was anything else that could be used?

[cwgrl23]

Try googling "earthship" which is the building method that you are speaking of. I "believe" that the tires can be covered in adobe but I am not sure. Hope someone else can offer more insight.

As long as the structure is earth bermed well, I think it would make a good tornado shelter. I do not have enough experience with a root cellar to answer that one.

The thing about tornadoes (as I understand them having lived in SD all my life) is that you would want the tornado shelter either buried or mounded heavily with dirt. If mounded make sure that it is round so that the wind can flow over it easly. The big key is round. Flat sides seem to "dare" a tornado to go through it were a round shape "allows" the tornado to go over/around it.
Think Monolithic domes as far as shape.

HTH

Carrie in SD

[wilderness1989]

Just do not take more tires than you need......remember you have to pay to get rid of them.

[WisJim]

In some states you need a hazardous waste permit to collect tires from other people.

Isn't it nice to have the government watching over you?

[SolarGary]

Originally Posted by Tarot Farm

Ok, I can get all of the used tires that I want for free; some folks have offered me cash to take them too. I know that you can make shelters, etc. from earth filled tires...so I have been thinking about making a tornado shelter/root cellar out of earth filled tires. My question is...would this make a good tornado shelter as well as a root cellar?

Also, what do you use to cover the 'inside' of the cellar with? I seen a earth filled tire shelter where they use chicken wire/mesh and cement to finish the inside of the shelter...but I was wondering if there was anything else that could be used?

Hi,

I think the earth filled tires might make a good toronado shelter. After packed with dirt, the tires weigh about 300 lbs each. Once they are plastered with cement plaster inside and out, I can't imagine much of anything moving them. They are usually also bermed, which would decrease the area exposed to wind. A lot would depend on what kind of roof you used, and how well you could attach it to the tire walls.

I have some stuff on Earthships here:
http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects.../Earthship.htm
Volume 1 of the Earthship books has a lot of info on building earth walls -- sometimes availabe cheap at amazon.com used books or the like.

One thing to bear in mind is its that it looks like a whole lot of exercise to pack the tires with dirt (using a sledge hammer).

Gary
www.BuildItSolar.com

[daytrader]

I have never tried it or even thought about it till I seen this tread.

For a hardy chicken coop.

Why not stack the tires. Fill them with dirt. Then take a round chicken wire tube and put it down the middle. Then will with equal parts of dirt and lime or even dirt and quick crete?

You could stack these side by side making walls. Then make triangles out of wired mess or chicken wire and fill it with quick crete and sirt to binde them to gether.

These would act as pillars.

Now, you would have a rock solid pen that would cost you more then building out of wood and wire, but it would be vary sturdy I think.

You have my mind thinking now. I have about 20 tires that I have to get rid of. I am now thinking to get 60 more and make a building. I could put vinal siding on it and it would look good.

With the tires filled with dirt and the pillar down the middle it would be a great storage area. The temperatures would hold for days.

I have been thinking of a design for my lambing area I have to get built. Or even for shelter for the sheep. I think I gots me a experiment!

I think I will leave the inside natural tire. I will side over the tires on the out side.

This would provide vary sturdy structure and heat retaining abilities. Also, they will not rot vary fast at all.

[wvpeach1963]

good thread
and gary I love your solar site.
Thanks for the info.
Tires need recycled.
Just don't leave them in site of a main raod till you get your structure built and I bet they would be great.
Giving me thoughts for a insulated dog run.

[Tarot Farm]

Originally Posted by WisJim

In some states you need a hazardous waste permit to collect tires from other people.

Isn't it nice to have the government watching over you?

Yes, Illinois does require one to get a special license to 'haul used tires'....I have a friend who is licensed.

You really do not want to hear what I think about the gov watching over me.

[Tarot Farm]

Using a sledge hammer to pack the dirt into those tires would be great STRESS RELIEF for me. I could really get a lot of work done just imagining my 'enemies' faces in those tires.

I plan on making a dome or igloo type of roof for the shelter. I was just wondering if anyone else had used this type of shelter for tornado shelter or for a root cellar. I need BOTH!

I have a lot of 'rocky soil' here that I cannot mow or use for a garden. I want to get rid of the rocks too. The soil here is very sandy, so the people who used to own the place hauled in truck loads of rock.

Thank you to all of the people who provided links, etc. I am going to start planning and get this project started.

Does anyone know if 'windows' and 'vents' can be added to this type of structure? I have some ideas, but not sure that they will work.