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Old 12/16/05, 08:23 AM
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Land in Kentucky?

Hi all. My husband and I are looking at buying some land in south central Kentucky. I was wondering if anyone knows anything about the area homesteading wise - good soil?, growing season?, etc. We want to homestead on it - grow a big garden, raise chickens and goats and possibly other animals at some point. We are, however, from the northern states - MI/MN and have never really visited, but found a piece of property we're interested in. Any input would be very helpful. Thanks.

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Old 12/16/05, 09:56 AM
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I left KY after 5 1/2 yrs there. I moved to KY from WI so similar situation to yours as far as a Yankee moving to KY. Our son & DIL still live in Glasgow while finishing up their degree at Western Kentucky University-they they're moving to Fargo,ND-they want to go back home to the north.

The soil we had in Metcalfe Co was red clay, very rocky but fertile. Due to the rocks I put a lot in raised beds.

Plenty of rain, sometimes there's drought like conditions followed by torrential rains. If you're going to put in driveways or roads, be sure to check for springs-I didn't know about them and we put in a road during the month of Feb to the back 20 acres only to find when the spring rains came there was a spring in the middle of my road!

Ticks are pretty thick in south central KY so it's good to have some guineas or muscovy ducks to keep them in check.

In the 5 1/2 yrs I only saw two copperheads but there were a lot of black snakes which are good to have-they keep the copperheads in check.

Oh and although you don't hear about it often, there are bobcats in south central KY-I had a 55# one on my front porch! There's a lot of coyotes who love poultry; so sturdy fences are a very good idea.

One last peice of advice, check out the neighbors!! Not just what they're houses look like but try to talk to them before signing on the dotted line. Especially if this place has been owned by a long time KY resident, get an idea how they feel about letting dogs freely roam(theirs),trash disposal, hunting & 4 wheeling on your land, cutting trees off your land,the basic private property issues. We didn't and should have-I won't even start to tell you my story but I offer that bit of advice to save you a few of the headaches we had.

Good Luck and let us know how your homesteading plans are coming along.

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I did a job in Hopkinsville and the area was beautiful and had good soil. One thing in Kentucky see if you can get a tobacco base which will let you grow and sell tobacco. I think there are several types of bases. It is amazing that you just cant grow what you want and sell it. Ask the seller if any base comes with the property

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DH & I just purchased 20 acres in Adair County, KY, right next door to Metcalfe County. There are quite a few organic farmers in the area so I am assuming that the growing is good. Our realtor is a forum member, he is the one who turned us onto Homesteading Today. He has been insturmental in helping many couples & families moved into the area and homestead.

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Ky guest is correct, check out the neighbors. The culture is very different. If I didn't love our property, I'd be heels and dust down the driveway. If we can find this kind of privacy in an affordable place further north, we'd sell in a heart beat.

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Culture in Ky????? We just moved here and should we be

aware of some kind of difference in folks.

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dandrea, I couldn't believe the difference 300 miles can make!! I've finally found an area where I fit in and my accent, politics and religion doesn't matter to my neighbors!!

Like you; if I could find an affordable place in any of the northern tier states, I'd probably be packing too.
Although,now that I've found out how friendly and welcoming western TN is; I really feel like I may have found home!! KY was a good learning experience about things I'd never believed could happen until they did; but the day the kids are no longer living there I can't see myself ever going to that state again.

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Kentucky---bleh. You'd hate it here. So would everyone else that has moved or is planning to move here. Run, get away while you can. Nothing grows, animals do poorly, the water is polluted, it, it it rains all the time, then it has droughts. I'd suggest Indiana or West Virginia, or Arizona. We are too poor to even afford gravity, luckily the state sucks so bad we stay in place. And, if you do move here, don't move to where I'm trying to buy more land.

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I would love to buy some land in the Hopkinsville area. Anyone know of some afordable area's?

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Yes, I can tell you who you can contact about some land around hopkinville, on the Ky. side. I bought some land from this guy. Real nice person. Will bend over backwards for you.

Bob Noel
4485 cadiz rd.
Hopkinville, Ky.
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(270)886-5316
E-mail: bnoel2@msn.com

P.S. Tell him Greg & Gill said Hi!!!

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Old 12/16/05, 10:36 PM
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You might get best advice if you were more specific about where you are heading. There's a tremendous amount of variety in "south central ky".

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Old 12/16/05, 10:48 PM
 
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Kentucky---bleh. You'd hate it here. So would everyone else that has moved or is planning to move here. Run, get away while you can. Nothing grows, animals do poorly, the water is polluted, it, it it rains all the time, then it has droughts. I'd suggest Indiana or West Virginia, or Arizona. We are too poor to even afford gravity, luckily the state sucks so bad we stay in place. And, if you do move here, don't move to where I'm trying to buy more land.
Thinking Farmer Willy is buying some grade A land for song...
Looking for some land with some gravity to it tho
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We just moved to S.C. KY. I'm still here in IN trying to get my house ready for market. My proberty there is fairly rocky so I'll be using raised beds for gardening. In Casey/Adair Co. there are several Amish moving out and we bought an Amish "farm" already converted to electricity and plumbing. The price was great! House (4 bedroom), shop (30 X 60), barn and 12 wooded acres for half of what my ranch house on an acre in IN is going to sell for. We went through United Country Realty, they have a nice website.

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That's good to know, Ky. Guest. Most of the "outsiders" that I had gotten to know after moving here, have already left. Lots of people move here with great intentions and just can't adapt, or maybe I should say the area doesn't adapt to new people. We aren't talking about people moving in, trying to change things, make trouble, etc. these were good, honest, productive people and still they left due to some of the problems here. It's too bad, because it is a gorgeous area. Good for you for finding a place to move to. Hopefully some day we will, too.

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Old 12/17/05, 07:10 PM
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Thanks all for the experiences, advice, etc. We are looking around the Edmonton area or there abouts. Nothing is set for sure, yet. Thanks again!

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Old 12/17/05, 09:09 PM
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Edmunton/Metcalf county area is not too bad. Relatively close to larger cities for shopping, employment. A lot of isolated acreage. Not too hilly and little marshy stuff. Tax rate not bad. A lot of Amish and Mennonites in the area. Cannot comment on crime and schools as reports on neither show up in our local paper. Good luck.

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Old 12/22/05, 08:23 PM
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My wife and I have just moved to the Edmonton area from Knoxville, TN. We love it here. Everyone that we have met has been extremely nice. I'm sure that there are some folks here who hate to see outsiders come in, but I feel that they are a small minority. Land and taxes are reasonable. and my soil appears to be pretty good. I would definitely recommend this area.

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My wife and I bought a small farm (50 acres) in Adair county five years ago. The stories that we could tell are endless. Whether its the neighbor to the south that grew up on the farm (we bought it from his folks), to the neighbor to the east who was born on the property, or the neighbor to the north who used to own the property, and the neighbor to the west that helped to build the house 60 years ago when he was a kid. It has taken a while, but we have pretty good relations with our neighbors. Since we were "city" people trying to build a farm, we are a source of ammusement to many, but once they get over laughing, they are usually very helpful. We always use local help for anything we do, and everyone knows that we are here to stay, and not just to speculate. If you are patient, and willing to wait out the stand-offish nature of the local culture, eventually, you will be accepted. You will need to outgoing, and have a strong desire to fit in, because you will never change the natives, which is good, because without them, it wouldn't be the same Kentucky.

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us kentuckians arent mean, we just don't like nosey folks or know it all folks LOL Seriously don't move here with a bunch of ideas of how you think you'll be treated , most of us are pretty good folks. we just don't like it when somebody comes in and starts telling us how we should be doing when we have been happy with our system LOL

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us kentuckians arent mean, we just don't like nosey folks or know it all folks LOL Seriously don't move here with a bunch of ideas of how you think you'll be treated , most of us are pretty good folks. we just don't like it when somebody comes in and starts telling us how we should be doing when we have been happy with our system LOL
I agree with kyhippie, I've lived in KY my entire life and we Kentuckians aren't any different than folks in other areas. We don't care for outsiders moving in and trying to change the way we do things or who are snobbish and unfriendly.
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Old 01/29/08, 11:22 AM
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us kentuckians arent mean, we just don't like nosey folks or know it all folks LOL Seriously don't move here with a bunch of ideas of how you think you'll be treated , most of us are pretty good folks. we just don't like it when somebody comes in and starts telling us how we should be doing when we have been happy with our system LOL
Well said! No one likes an invasion. Being an outsider, coming into someone else's territory I guess the best advice I could give anyone moving in from out of state is to just follow the golden rule and think about the fact that the property you just bought has likely belonged to several family members nearby that are your neighbors. Folks have memories there and as for us ... we love hearing about them. We grew up in southern Oregon and the same kinds of feelings existed there too. We grew up with exactly the same feelings that you just said kyhippie. For us as Oregonian's there was a strong almost impenatratable bond and no one liked outsiders coming in buying up the land but if in time they blended in it wasn't so bad. After some years pass that person becomes a good neighbor and friend. So blending into the comminity here is of utmost importance. After all... if you don't like the way folks live and do buisness ...why do you come here? If you have the thought pattern that the property you have moved onto is now yours alone...without any thoughts of it's history or the way of life around you then ...you will be left alone. In the end I guess those that don't belong move on and the rest of us are adopted in and someday our kids will be considered locals that had the parents that moved in from out of state! LOLOL Shoot.. I know in Oregon sometimes it could be worse coming in from the next county rather than out of state! :baby04: (ok not really.. out of state is worse)

We love it here and I'm sorry for those that didn't. That's my 2 cents for whatever it's worth.

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Well I am from the Midwest but country and in some respects it is still very close knit around here. I recall an incident here several years ago was not living here at the time and was back for a visit and to introduce my wife to the family. We had went out to a local watering hole for a drink and got to talking to a fellow. During the conversation a certain fellows name came up and I made a rather unkind remark, the fellow I was talking to quickly informed me it was not a good idea to make mention of the locals shortcomings. When I asked why he informed me while glancing around rather nervelessly that the whole town was full of people who were related. I said yeah I know that guy we just mentioned was my cousin.

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You know, it works both ways...Midwesterners don't like you doing something different from the rest of them. My wife and I raise beef cattle and pastured broilers right smack dab in the middle of corn and soybean country. I don't how many times I have to had to hear how foolish it is to turn perfectly good row crop land into pasture! I probably would make a better Kentuckyian than Illinoisan based on other comments here!!!!!! LOL.

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I have a house and 24+/- acres in TN just south of the KY line near Hopkinsville, KY, Clarksville, TN and Ft Campbell KY. Its really close to Land Between the Lakes. We just (today) listed it with a realtor. Give me a PM if you want more details.

One reason why we bought it was TN instead of KY was there is no state income tax.

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We just moved here from Michigan ( near detroit ) 3 1/2 yrs ago.
WE ABSOLUTLY love it. The ground here in western ky ( 42 miles from Hoptown, lol you will get used to the names) is rocky in the "LEAST" and clay. But workable.
The people here are nice, but also are very very cautious of "outsiders" . It takes a while to get in "good" with people, and showing them that your not a "visitor" or that you are here to change the way of life here.
We have been fortunate enough to live near the Land between the lakes ( can see it in winter) and have good weather here.
Yes there is drought
Yes there is rain
Yes there is HEAT!(WHEWWEE, thats something you will have to get used to)
YES there is more humidity than Michigan

But the beautiful landscapes and the feeling of peace and serintiy all make up for that!
You can fish year round, you can hunt almost anywhere ( with in reason) and the laws are a little bit more laid back, so come with a "watch and learn their way" mentality!

But it is my most beloved place to be and we are happy to call it home!

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Razorback21... that's one of the things that is the same in Oregon too...people throwing out their opinions.
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Here in Kentucky I've learned more than homesteading skills. I've learned .... no, I'm still learning... how to be a nicer person and that it's important to keep my advice to myself and that it's important to not only give but to receive. Isn't it hard to keep your mouth shut & watch someone trying to build or fix something when they're going about it all wrong and you stand there with the knowlege they need to do it better? It's not hard for these folks! If you don't ask for help, no one is going to but in and tell you they have a better way to do it. I was talking about that with a neighbor that was born and raised here and she admitted that she even keeps her counsel to herself with her grown daughter. When I put that to practice with my family it was like a burden being lifted off of me. I no longer felt it was my responsibility to make sure the world turned the right way. I really feel good here. I love the people, the way of life and I want them to love me! LOLOL

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I'd have to agree with this fella, sounds like he knows his Ky. alright. You read some folks writing how it's ok and you'll do fine here. Just remember the old saw about misery loving company. I'd hate to see someone get sucked in here and then be miserable the rest of their days. Why not move somewhere else and be miserable there from the get go? Kind of cut out the middle state. Oh yeah, and another thing, we eat burgoo here. Now do you want your hard working bread winner to come in to the supper table, cold and sore, and ask you what's fer supper and all you can answer is burgoo? Why he won't know whether to wipe in on his sleve or get the bucket and mop. Makes Tenn. or W.V. see down right homelike don't it. Even New Mexerco sounds better by comparison. And really, how many can pull off the coonskin cap look anyway? Not many I'd venture.

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Kentucky---bleh. You'd hate it here. So would everyone else that has moved or is planning to move here. Run, get away while you can. Nothing grows, animals do poorly, the water is polluted, it, it it rains all the time, then it has droughts. I'd suggest Indiana or West Virginia, or Arizona. We are too poor to even afford gravity, luckily the state sucks so bad we stay in place. And, if you do move here, don't move to where I'm trying to buy more land.
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LOLOL Farmerwilly2 .... you ornery ol thing.. you sound like my grandfather when he was alive! Only the State is different!

The Welcome sign at the state line of Calif. and Ore. used to be made of wood and said.. Welcome To Oregon Visit but don't stay ... back when I was real little. See? I can stay here! I can't go back to Oregon so don't even say it! LOL We like it here. We have our heels dug in! hahaha..

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By the way... what is Burgoo??? Do I need to ask around and will I get laughed at?

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this all reminds me of a guy that moved in the neighborhood a few years back. he had never lived in the country or been around livestock but he immediately decided he needed a riding horse. Being not too smart about horses, insteading of buying an older gentle horse to learn on, he bought a green broke stud horse cause he could just see himself dashing around on a fiery mount just like roy rogers LOL. My brother offered to help him finish breaking it but he got real snotty and informed bro that he had read a book on how to do it and so he knew much more than bro who had been around horses since he was about five. Long story short, he may have read the book but the horse hadn't so after getting thrown more times that you can count and eventually ruining a potentially good horse, he got laughed out of the community. Everybody around here would have willingly helped if he had asked instead of acting like he knew more that all of us put together then proving that he knew nothing LOL Its a standing joke around here now when anyone tries a different way of doing something and it don't work out somebody is bound to say, "I guess you read the book"

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