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10/15/05, 10:03 PM
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Weatherford OK and wind generators
http://www.awea.org/projects/index.html
I have recently driven I-40 thru the wind generator farms and was totally impressed with them.
So tonight I was looking them up, found info on them and a map (link above) of all states and their wind generators and power from them.
Thought some of you may find this interesting.
Angie
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10/15/05, 11:19 PM
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...............Great website , thanks! I didn't realize that texas was #2 in windgen capacity . Atleast once a week a truck will come thru weatherford , tx hauling a section of one of those 300foot tower support sections on a flatbed and they are huge . I'd be happy with 1 kw at 60 feet as a part of a solar system . fordy... 
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10/16/05, 12:50 AM
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I drove I-40 back and forth to CA and watched those being erected. I've seen them in TX,CA and IL. They're relaxing to watch but I wonder how noisey it is right near them.
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10/16/05, 09:52 AM
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Renewable wind energy is a hot, hot topic in western NY right now. There are a few developers (UPC and Zilkha are 2 that I know of) interested in the area here and several residents are resisting it. So far 9 towns in my county (Genesee) have set up 1 year moratoriums for further research. There are many details to work out, such as what happens after it's defunct, amount of farm land actually lost due to compaction during construction, Who actually makes money, etc. People have been forcibly removed from town board meetings due to their outbursts over this topic.
A resident was quoted in the newspaper as saying, (something to the effect) "the wind developers only want to erect them on farms and the farmers don't need any more money."
A plan backed by the state to set up hundreds of wind turbines in New York is being fought by billionaire Tom Golisano. He's the owner of the Buffalo Sabres and also running (for the 4th time) for Governor of NY. He said he's not opposed to wind power, but he's concerned the turbines could destroy the scenic beauty.
Just south of us in Wethersfield, Wyoming County, there are 10 turbines and they are beautiful to see. http://www.newwindenergy.com/windfarm_wethersfield.html
We have friends that live on the road that the turbines are on. They've only mentioned 2 problems. Sightseers have increased the traffic on their road and they've seen an increase in litter on their roadside too. They have never mentioned a problem with noise, and they are within walking distance.
There will be a wind test-turbine set up within 500' behind our home and we look forward to it. The farmer that owns the land to be used, approached us for our opinion. We sincerely appreciated that. I'd rather see a wind turbine than another neighbor.
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10/16/05, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Charleen
Renewable wind energy is a hot, hot topic in western NY right now. There are a few developers (UPC and Zilkha are 2 that I know of) interested in the area here and several residents are resisting it. So far 9 towns in my county (Genesee) have set up 1 year moratoriums for further research. There are many details to work out, such as what happens after it's defunct, amount of farm land actually lost due to compaction during construction, Who actually makes money, etc. People have been forcibly removed from town board meetings due to their outbursts over this topic.
A resident was quoted in the newspaper as saying, (something to the effect) "the wind developers only want to erect them on farms and the farmers don't need any more money."
A plan backed by the state to set up hundreds of wind turbines in New York is being fought by billionaire Tom Golisano. He's the owner of the Buffalo Sabres and also running (for the 4th time) for Governor of NY. He said he's not opposed to wind power, but he's concerned the turbines could destroy the scenic beauty.
Just south of us in Wethersfield, Wyoming County, there are 10 turbines and they are beautiful to see. http://www.newwindenergy.com/windfarm_wethersfield.html
We have friends that live on the road that the turbines are on. They've only mentioned 2 problems. Sightseers have increased the traffic on their road and they've seen an increase in litter on their roadside too. They have never mentioned a problem with noise, and they are within walking distance.
There will be a wind test-turbine set up within 500' behind our home and we look forward to it. The farmer that owns the land to be used, approached us for our opinion. We sincerely appreciated that. I'd rather see a wind turbine than another neighbor. |
Some months ago, I saw some 'environmental' group in California protesting the wind generators as being hazardous to birds of prey. As evidence, they produced the rotting corpses of several immature Bald Eagles. I was shocked to see that the dead Eagles had no flight feathers! These were nestlings! I have the distinct impression that some Bald Eagle nests were robbed of birds that were far from fledging, and sacrificed for some warped eco-terrorists agenda. After all, birds fly through fast flocks of one another without ramming into another bird with any detectable frequency, how could they be blind to those slowly rotating blades of wind generators?
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10/17/05, 12:28 PM
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Answer to that Tom G character mentioned by poster Charleen; Ok the wind turbines might spoil your beauty thing ........instead lets put up a coal fired gennerator....
Idiot...
I'll stop before I get anymore wound up on that subject........
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10/17/05, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Arborethic
how could they be blind to those slowly rotating blades of wind generators?
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Not all are the slowly rotating big guys.I believe in Altamont Pass they have succeeded in a partial closure of the windfarm during certain times.
Saw a European study that cars kill far more birds than turbines.Also cats as we all know can be pretty harsh on birds.
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10/17/05, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim-mi
Answer to that Tom G character mentioned by poster Charleen; Ok the wind turbines might spoil your beauty thing ........instead lets put up a coal fired gennerator....
Idiot...
I'll stop before I get anymore wound up on that subject........
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Yeah,lets stay dependant on fossil fuels,instead of renewable resources that provide true security for America,along with American jobs,and clean air to boot.
BooBoo
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10/17/05, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by AngieM2
http://www.awea.org/projects/index.html
I have recently driven I-40 thru the wind generator farms and was totally impressed with them.
So tonight I was looking them up, found info on them and a map (link above) of all states and their wind generators and power from them.
Thought some of you may find this interesting.
Angie
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BTW,who is leading the pack? hint,hint.....
CALIFORNIA !!!!! 
PS,lets add who also pioneered it,California yet again. 
Had to put this in for the benefit of the California bashers on these boards.
BooBoo
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10/17/05, 01:47 PM
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Finally,I love this graph.Shoots down the naysayers that believe renewable energy doesnt work,nor is it substantial.
Talk about boom times in capacity,its here,its now,its REAL.
http://www.awea.org/faq/instcap.html
BooBoo
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10/18/05, 09:49 PM
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If I were post on here the numbers of birds that cats kill most would not believe it. Certainly not the cat lovers. (Fefe wouldn't do that)...........Oh ya........wanna bet.........
Between the domistic and feral cats they account for better than a..........Billion......birds.
These are not my made up figures.
Gee it would take a whole BIG bunch of wind turbines to even get to 1% of that ammount.
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10/18/05, 10:19 PM
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Turbines and Cats
I regularly see long flatbed trailers on hiway 69 near Muskogee hauling one blade each for a wind generator. The blades are as long as the trailer, and it is a doozy. The blades are of a peculiar shape, too, obviously computer generated designs for a certain speed of rotation. No idea where they are going.
As for cats, I do my best to protect the little birdies by lowering cat numbers. Bought another hundred .22 cb's tonite.
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10/18/05, 10:25 PM
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Hi~
There is a wind farm north of Woodward Okla.....that said--you can view some info about it at www.oge.com
Rachel
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11/08/05, 08:54 PM
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Does anybody here have one for there home. I am interested in building one that I can sell excess back to the power company
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11/08/05, 09:35 PM
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Does anybody here have one for there home. I am interested in building one that I can sell excess back to the power company
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............Don't know about OK but in Texas the UT's will NOT credit your Bill at the same cost per KWH that they charge You for power . The rate is MUCH lower here , I believe . There are some guys in Co. who have fabricated their own Windgen with some Very powerful magnets that they sell . They built the circular "wheel" to hold the magnets and turn on from a Volvo hub. They also built their own blades out of furr tree's from their mountain
homestead . They look like a bunch of hippies but they are very sophisticated in their thinking and design . fordy... 
.............. http://www.amplepower.com/
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11/08/05, 10:10 PM
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A long time ago, early 1980/81 - when I lived in Littleton CO we were up on a ridge, and installed a 40 ft tall wind generator for the house. It was really neat to watch and the noise was not very much at all. I'd do it again in a flash, if I lived in a good area for one. We also had solar heat and hot water installed on that house.
If you can do it, they are neat to have. We did have an elec. meter that would run backwards, until the electric company decided they didn't want our possibly contaminated electricity in their lines. Still okay.
Try it, you'll like it and solar.
Angie
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11/09/05, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mightybooboo
Finally,I love this graph.Shoots down the naysayers that believe renewable energy doesnt work,nor is it substantial.
Talk about boom times in capacity,its here,its now,its REAL.
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Woo Hoo! It's up to...what...about .04% of total electrical energy consumed in the US?
Wow...that's substantial. Go wind!
I think I'll go hook an aternator up to my hamster wheel and see if I can't match that output.
If .04% is substantial...then the Communist party is a substantial political force in the US, and Luxembourg has a signifigant military.
Wind power is nice, but it can't replace oil or natural gas on a global scale.
That said, I'd still recomend everyone here get themselves some wind generation capacity or some other alternative energy source.
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11/09/05, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by mightybooboo
Yeah,lets stay dependant on fossil fuels,instead of renewable resources that provide true security for America,along with American jobs,and clean air to boot.
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Can you tell me what "true security" means?
Do you just mean that wind is an energy source that we can't run out of?
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11/09/05, 10:42 AM
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Oklahoma State University has developed a design for a wind generator that is like a vertical turbine. Sort of like those attic turbine vents. It will turn regardless of the wind direction, & the taller that it is, the more wind it will catch. Like those attic turbines, it doesn't have those huge windmill arms & is much more compact. It could also be screened to keep birds out of the turbine blades & vanes. Sorry, I don't have a link,but this seems to be the cutting edge in wind generating technology.
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11/09/05, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bdmarti
Woo Hoo! It's up to...what...about .04% of total electrical energy consumed in the US?
Wow...that's substantial. Go wind!
I think I'll go hook an aternator up to my hamster wheel and see if I can't match that output.
If .04% is substantial...then the Communist party is a substantial political force in the US, and Luxembourg has a signifigant military.
Wind power is nice, but it can't replace oil or natural gas on a global scale.
That said, I'd still recomend everyone here get themselves some wind generation capacity or some other alternative energy source.
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Try looking at world output and expansion. Then troll elsewhere,Im not interested.
BooBoo
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