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10/07/05, 09:32 PM
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Since we don't have a gator forum...
My neighbor now has a 5ft gator in his pond...Not only that but the darn thing has become territorial. I'm concerned because where one goes, others will follow. The slide marks him going away from my property but I still weedeated everything today and have moved everything so he can't hide in the "bush". They are calling the gator farm to come get him tomorrow...Hopefully they'll come soon! Yes, I have a gator farm about a mile away from here. Oh boy... I only found out about this because I went to ask if the kids could go fishing this coming week. guess not. I'll try to capture the beast on film but I don't know if I'll get to or not.
What would ya'll do? This isn't your normal predator problem....
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10/07/05, 09:40 PM
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If they don't come Why not trap it then skin it and have A gator roast..
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10/07/05, 09:42 PM
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I'll let you borrow one of my snakes, just have her back before it snows (up here). 
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10/07/05, 09:46 PM
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If I had a gun we'd be having gator gumbo tonight but I'm deathly afraid of guns so I don't and we can't.
Snakes???? That's got to be a serious snake to take on a 5ft gator! But, I'll extend the offer that you can come get him and take him home and then your snakes could have a playmate....Hmmmm....That sounds like an idea! I'll see you tomorrow.....
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10/07/05, 09:54 PM
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Snakes???? That's got to be a serious snake to take on a 5ft gator! But, I'll extend the offer that you can come get him and take him home and then your snakes could have a playmate....Hmmmm....That sounds like an idea! I'll see you tomorrow.....
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No, no, really, it's true! I just read in the Chicago Trib a few days ago that a snake "popped" because it swallowed a gator... Hang on...
I Snoped it to make sure, and Snopes has a picture:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/snakegator.asp
Here's the Trib article:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/s...,7893433.story
Python Bursts After Trying to Eat Gator
By DENISE KALETTE
Associated Press Writer
Published October 6, 2005, 6:13 AM CDT
MIAMI -- The alligator has some foreign competition at the top of the Everglades food chain, and the results of the struggle are horror-movie messy.
A 13-foot Burmese python recently burst after it apparently tried to swallow a live, six-foot alligator whole, authorities said.
The incident has heightened biologists' fears that the nonnative snakes could threaten a host of other animal species in the Everglades.
"It means nothing in the Everglades is safe from pythons, a top-down predator," said Frank Mazzotti, a University of Florida wildlife professor.
Over the years, many pythons have been abandoned in the Everglades by pet owners.
The gory evidence of the latest gator-python encounter -- the fourth documented in the past three years -- was discovered and photographed last week by a helicopter pilot and wildlife researcher.
The snake was found with the gator's hindquarters protruding from its midsection. Mazzotti said the alligator may have clawed at the python's stomach as the snake tried to digest it.
In previous incidents, the alligator won or the battle was an apparent draw.
"There had been some hope that alligators can control Burmese pythons," Mazzotti said. "This indicates to me it's going to be an even draw. Sometimes alligators are going to win and sometimes the python will win."
It is unknown how many pythons are competing with the thousands of alligators in the Everglades, but at least 150 have been captured in the past two years, said Joe Wasilewski, a wildlife biologist and crocodile tracker.
Pythons could threaten many smaller species that conservationists are trying to protect, including other reptiles, otters, squirrels, woodstorks and sparrows, Mazzotti said.
Wasilewski said a 10- or 20-foot python also could pose a risk to an unwary human, especially a child. He added, however, "I don't think this is an imminent threat. This is not a `Be afraid, be very afraid' situation.'"
Copyright © 2005, The Associated Press
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10/07/05, 10:13 PM
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Burmese pythons in the Florida Everglades? Isn't the reason they're called "Burmese" because they're... well, indigenous to BURMA? Am I completely off base here, wondering why on earth this many of them are roaming free in the Everglades?
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10/07/05, 10:26 PM
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Seems people get tired of their "pets" and have been dumping them. The gators are suppose to control the dumped snakes but looks like it is a draw.
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10/07/05, 10:36 PM
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Yes, it's true, I LOVE snakes!!!
It pains me to hear how some dorks in Florida can let their babies loose in the wild to fend for themselves. I'm sure if they tried they could find a rescue to take the snake. Dorks.
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p.s. It is a gift to find beauty and awe where others only find ugliness and fear.
p.s. again. Does anybody here have a recipe for canned gator? YUMMY
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10/07/05, 10:36 PM
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Murphy was an optimist ;)
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We dont have gators here in Kentucky, but my recommendation would be to do your best to stay on the OUTSIDE of that critter!
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10/08/05, 09:38 AM
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People dumped 'pets' and the 'pets' reproduced. Read somewhere that one female can birth 100 young.
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10/08/05, 09:49 AM
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Here in FL any human-aggressive gator over 4ft is captured and relocated. Try a call to the local DoW? Or maybe it's the sheriff's that take care of it.
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10/08/05, 11:20 AM
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WOW!!! That is impressive I am so glad we dont have either one of those beasties up here 
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10/08/05, 12:12 PM
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About the best thing you can do until it's caught and relocated is simply stay away from the water. Even a little 5 footer can do some serious damage if they get their jaws on you. Good idea to knock down any brush nearby too. I would think that either state Fish and Game or local Animal Control would be the ones to handle this - or at least be able to point you in the right direction.
It'd also be a good idea to keep any family pets either inside or extremely closely supervised as well.
Florida has become a breeding ground for just about anything of a "tropical" species of reptile. I've heard rumors that parks in the Miami area are becoming overrun with Green Iguanas because people are too stupid to do 10 minutes of research before they purchase one to find out that the things can hit 6' and literally have miniature shark's teeth - despite having only one row they also replace like shark's teeth. It's a real pain when one gets lodged in a bite wound....
What it comes down to is that people are just stoopid. They don't think about any long term effects of what they're buying for a "pet" and many "pets" in the reptile market grow to a size and potential temperment that CAN threaten human life if not properly cared for. Burms, for instance, regularly hit over 20' and 450 lbs yet John/Jane Q. can still get their hands on them without any questions asked. Florida also has a breeding population of Nile monitors from what I've heard as well. I've dealt with a 6' PO'd Nile before - I'd almost rather have to deal with a gator.
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10/08/05, 12:42 PM
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A five foot gator is not going to mess with a human unless you tried to handle it. If you came near it most likely it would go in water and hide. They are trainable much like a mallard duck to come for food when called. If you move to fast it will get spooked and hide. It might be large enough to eat a small dog. I would enjoy it while it is there.
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10/08/05, 02:11 PM
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I don't know--my dad wrestled gators at a wild life park and the "little 5fters" were aggresive!! I forgot how many 1000s lbs of pressure they have in their mouths when shutting. However, if you can get its mouth closed....it can't open it. It does not have enough strength.
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10/08/05, 02:32 PM
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Yes, stay away from the water. Here in my swamp in central FL, gators are a normal predator problem. The neighbor "got rid of" a 10 ft one that was threatening their horses.
A very ignorant woman was feeding the fish and turtles at a public lake...well, a 4 ft gator jumped up and bite her on the hand. She still has her fingers but she may now have to pay a high priced fine because she was feeding a gator!!! They killed the gator because it lost its fear of humans.
If you kill a gator on your own property it is still illegal in Fl.
Be glad they will come and get it, from what I understand in Fl, they will not come get a non-aggresive gator from your pond/lake because swimming in lakes is what gators do!
BTW is it gone?
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10/08/05, 02:35 PM
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The tail meat should be pounded with a saucer, cut into nuggets, dipped in beaten egg rolled in seasoned breading and fried in bacon fat- served with swamp cabbage...
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10/08/05, 08:54 PM
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The tail meat should be pounded with a saucer, cut into nuggets, dipped in beaten egg rolled in seasoned breading and fried in bacon fat- served with swamp cabbage...
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