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04/12/13, 05:21 PM
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So, I guess I go to a "false church"??
I'm supposed to meet this guy to deliver a bunch of chicks to tomorrow. I had spoken to him the other day and he asked me to remind him today which I did. I'll be driving an hour away to do this, I had mentioned that our church was having something Saturday, and which one it was so he would know which area I would be in. So we could pick a convenient meeting place.
I call him today and he still wants the chicks and we're wrapping the discussion up and he says, "so, you like xyz church?" To which I replied yes we were pretty happy with it. To which he says which church he belongs to and that xyz church is a "false church" "as most of them are" and "we live as it says to in the Bible". I could sense he wanted to go on in this vein but I wasn't going to go there.
Uh, huh, okie dokie then that's very nice was my general tone after that. Would someone tell me why people do this? I seem to attract them! I would never say someone else's church was "false" much less someone I didn't even know! Now, I am really leery about meeting him, my husband will be with me of course and in a public place but I DO NOT want to get into a religious discussion with this guy. I'm tempted just to cancel. What do you all think?
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04/12/13, 05:31 PM
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As Christians we are told to witness to others and bring people to Christ. For some reason some people think the way to do that is with debating. I get the impression he's one of those. I'll never understand those kinds of people. Maybe, it's because I don't like debating.
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04/12/13, 05:34 PM
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The nicest thing I can come up with is that he was under the mistaken belief that he can make sure you go to Heaven by annoying the Hell out of you.
Other than that, I have no idea, because there's the one part in the Bible that says "Judge not . . ." We all know that one.
What most people miss is that this is referring specifically to the state of another's Salvation -- that presuming to know, judge, weather someone is going to Heaven is not a wise course of action.
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04/12/13, 05:35 PM
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I heard a good sermon once-something to the effect that you have to win people over to you before you try to win them over to Jesus. I'm not putting it right probably but it really stuck with me. I can't stand to have people come up to me and say "do you go to church?" it is too confrontational to me. Personally I work Jesus into the conversation in other ways. I don't like debating either though. I think what I think and you are free to think the way you do.
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04/12/13, 05:37 PM
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I mean, I don't care if people ask if I go to church, it's just what follows-and it's always lengthy!
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04/12/13, 05:46 PM
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If someone asked me "Do you go to church" I would answer that I make it a practice not to discuss my spiritual beliefs with anyone but God
And no one can drag you into a debate, you enter willingly. Just say heres the chicks, get your money and say "gotta run" and go
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04/12/13, 05:48 PM
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Right or wrong as his method goes, I'm pretty sure he just wants you to go to heaven.
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04/12/13, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by longhorngal
I'm supposed to meet this guy to deliver a bunch of chicks to tomorrow. I had spoken to him the other day and he asked me to remind him today which I did. I'll be driving an hour away to do this, I had mentioned that our church was having something Saturday, and which one it was so he would know which area I would be in. So we could pick a convenient meeting place.
I call him today and he still wants the chicks and we're wrapping the discussion up and he says, "so, you like xyz church?" To which I replied yes we were pretty happy with it. To which he says which church he belongs to and that xyz church is a "false church" "as most of them are" and "we live as it says to in the Bible". I could sense he wanted to go on in this vein but I wasn't going to go there.
Uh, huh, okie dokie then that's very nice was my general tone after that. Would someone tell me why people do this? I seem to attract them! I would never say someone else's church was "false" much less someone I didn't even know! Now, I am really leery about meeting him, my husband will be with me of course and in a public place but I DO NOT want to get into a religious discussion with this guy. I'm tempted just to cancel. What do you all think?
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That is one of the reasons I am not a Christian. BTW, I don't have anything against Christians. I do have a problem with the my dog is better than your dog argument or mentality.
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04/12/13, 06:01 PM
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I'm tempted just to cancel. What do you all think?
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I think you should keep your agreement, and if it comes up, tell him politely, and with a smile, that you're there to sell chickens, not discuss religion.
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04/12/13, 06:46 PM
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Waste of bandwidth
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These folks wouldn't care what he said: http://www.thefallschurch-episcopal.org/
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04/12/13, 07:04 PM
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If the fool beings it up, just don't respond and smile and change the subject.
In the future, if the "false church" subject come up, just say the it is an interesting assumption and leave.
Fools like that give Christians a bad reputation!
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04/12/13, 07:07 PM
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Would someone tell me why people do this?
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"My church is better, than your church", is a nearly timeless statement.
It's really a roundabout way, of saying, "I am better than you", IMO
No wonder people are getting sick of religion.
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04/12/13, 07:12 PM
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I admit, I am occasionally guilty of asking "which church do you go to".... but... BUT!!! I take the time to read them first and my question is legit since I am still not settled on a church home... I'm shoppin after all!
And hey, I am *very* civil even if it turns out to be a sect I would ne'er darken the doorway of, I'm just classy like that.
Funny story, my last church home? I ended up at because it was a new church plant sending out cards in the mail inviting people, and the way something was phrased on one of them rubbed me in such a way that coulda maybe been "off". Sooo I emailed the pastor... that turned into starbucks with me pastor and hubby, picked his brain and meshed with the type of teaching he did-- visited once and we couldn't wait to go back.
Those types of conversations and questions can be great things.
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04/12/13, 07:18 PM
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Would someone tell me why people do this? I seem to attract them! I would never say someone else's church was "false"
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My guess, he thinks hes sparing you a trip to a hot place.
I think some Christians get a little carried away with trying saving others.
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04/12/13, 07:52 PM
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Too many fat quarters...
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Well let's see here...since you're doing business on Saturday (Sabbath), you must not be Seventh Day Adventist... Hmm....
Catholic? They're frequently the "false church" as well as idolaters.
Or Mormon--Everyone knows Mormons aren't really Christians!
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04/12/13, 07:58 PM
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I think last count I had 17 churches with in a mile and half radius. From three kind of Baptist right up though Catholic,Pentecostals, and the snake handlers. And as it turns out I have 17 right ways or wrong ways ,depending, on getting to heaven. And I have no desire to go there. I like it right here
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04/12/13, 08:06 PM
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Never get into an argument with an unarmed person.
Gee that sounds bad????
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04/13/13, 07:45 AM
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If someone asked me "Do you go to church" I would answer that I make it a practice not to discuss my spiritual beliefs with anyone but God

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Back in 2004 when I lived at the lake cabin for 6 months, and worked for Good Shepard, a Hospice patient asked me if I was saved by the blood of the Lamb. When I replied as you did, Shygal, she accused me of consorting with demons "since no one comes to the Father but by the Son", so it was obviously not God I was talking to. What was worse was she called up the Hospice office and demanded a new nurse since I "consorted with demons". My boss was waiting for me when I got back to the office, demanding to know just what I had told her!  She also had the gall to demand that I not bring up Spiritual matters to patients. I don't do that! It was the Patient started it and kept ragging on me till I finally tried to answer diplomatically!
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04/13/13, 07:54 AM
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While there are false churches out their, salvation doesn't come from our steeple.
It is not MY job to tell some one they are not saved. If asked I will state why or why not I would go some where.
After all our job is to plant the desire, not force the fulfillment.
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04/13/13, 07:56 AM
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IMO, the best way to deal with it is agree with them to the point that they want to run away from you.
"False church? Yep!! Hey, we're sacrificing a small goat next Sunday. You want to come and bathe in the blood? It's refreshing!!"
Soon enough they're not as interested in telling you about what they believe, they just don't want to hear anymore of what they think you're doing.
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