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Old 05/14/11, 03:58 PM
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How do I get my doctor to give me a scrip for Vicodin?

Yeah, I know how weird that sounds. LOL

Here's the thing: in recent years, I have been plagued by menstrual cramps. They are severe ... to the point where it is very difficult to function. Beyond the pain, there is the sort of mental fog that goes with it. It's as if my brain is a computer and all the CPU is being used up to run an app called "PAIN." I find working and even driving difficult because I can't concentrate. Massive quantities of ibuprofen are the only thing that helps, and even they don't work sometimes.

This month, out of desperation, I asked my husband if he still had any pain medication left over from a surgical procedure a couple years back? We have to go to our neighbor's 65th anniversary party ... all our friends will be there, we've been looking forward to it and I didn't want to be a pain-wracked zombie.

He had some Vicodin ... I took 1/2 of a 500 mg tablet. The effect was remarkable. Within a half-hour, the pain was GONE. Not just "less" (as with Motrin) ... GONE! I can't even tell I have a uterus.

I want more of this stuff for next month! But how do I get my doctor to give it to me? I don't have a close relationship with my PCP. In the three years I've been assigned to her, I've seen her only once, for some antibiotics. But I need to go in soon for another minor problem, so I figured I might as well bring this up while I'm there. But I'm a little worried she'll think I'm some sort of junkie scammer. I'm just paranoid enough to be concerned that something negative will be put in my medical record. Should I be worried? Should I even talk to her about it?

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Talk to her and explain the pain and that motrin doesn't help. Ask what she would recommend to help.

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Good luck...Im in a similar situation...hurt my back at work, mom gave me one of her muscle relaxers...ahh no pain, was able to sleep and felt 100X better the next day. Id love to have a bottle of these on hand for an emergency like that, but never never never go to the dr because I hate going (I could have filed for workmans comp, but Its more of a hassel than a strained muscle is worth)

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Old 05/14/11, 04:22 PM
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Willow_girl when I try something that works for me, I let my Dr know and he is more than happy to give it to me. I told a Dr., Astalyn worked for a cousin and we have the same symptoms and he gave it to me. Or you could just come out and tell him just like you did us. Tell him you only need enough to get you thru that time each month. He may accomodate you.

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Old 05/14/11, 04:23 PM
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If you talk to your doctor about it, and mention that Motrin doesn't help, they shouldn't have a problem prescribing it for you. I did that when my menstrual cramps were severe like yours, and my doctor wrote it for me, no problem.

I've since had a hysterectomy, and no more cramps! Hooray!

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Talk to her and explain the pain and that motrin doesn't help. Ask what she would recommend to help.
You may have to "work up" to Vicodin.

How about on-line? There are places that don't need a script - Maybe Nevada knows...PM him if he doesn't post here.
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If your cramps are that bad, why not have endometrial ablation and be done with periods for good? If you're done having children, I highly recommend it. I was having long, irregular periods and had the ablation done a year and a half ago. Since then, I have had no period, no cramps, nothing! It is awesome!!

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Old 05/14/11, 05:40 PM
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If your cramps are that bad, why not have endometrial ablation and be done with periods for good? If you're done having children, I highly recommend it. I was having long, irregular periods and had the ablation done a year and a half ago. Since then, I have had no period, no cramps, nothing! It is awesome!!
Really? My dr recommended that for me too, but I was afraid.
Does it make it so you cannot have children any more either? I get anemic every month from mine
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Have you tried seeing a chiropractor for the menstrual pain? I used to be on prescription pain relievers AND carry an ounce-sized bottle of vodka in my purse - the combo was the only thing that made me functional when cramps would hit. But a chiropractic adjustment solved the problem forever! Not saying 'that time' is without notice, but really almost pain free.

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Doctors can be very wary when a patient starts requesting the "hard" drugs. I think the suggestion to ask your doctor for his/her recommendation is a good one.

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It's worth a shot. Actually, my PCP started WITH Vicodin and I worked DOWN from there; she trusted my wife (a nurse of 10 years) when she said "The man has an unreal tolerance for pain and for medications...the normal stuff has no effect on him."

She asked me for an example, and I told her "Well, I drove here on darvocet and valium."

She didn't believe me that I was still functioning that well...so she did the dollar-bill test (where they hold it between your fingers).

I caught it right on top of George Washington's head. :P

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Old 05/14/11, 07:25 PM
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Have you tried 4 ibuprofin yet? 4 is the maximum dose, though 2 are taken for ordinary pain.

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half of 500 mg probably would knock out pain, since the usual dose is 5-10 mg. I only get 5mg for abscessed teeth.

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I use to live on codeine (Canada) and other prescription medicines. I have the worst cramps going. I had horrible side effects from most of the drugs I had to take.

I use Aleve now. The key is to take it at the slightest sign of pain and than keep taking it regularly. You can't wait until the pain starts again you have to be ahead of it.

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Old 05/14/11, 07:39 PM
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It can't hurt to ask, different doc's have different attitudes about narcotics. Agree that asking her what she recommends is a good start, and maybe asking for a very limited supply may also help.

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Old 05/14/11, 07:53 PM
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Vicodin is perscribed for mild to severe pain often after a surgery, but sometimes for long-term use. Vicodin is produced by Knoll Labratories and comes in three varieties. Vicodin (5 mg hydrocodone, 500 mg acetaminophen), Vicodin ES (7.5/750), Vicodin HP (10/660). There is also many generic variants of Vicodin.
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I'm in the same boat painwise, and have been rationing my bottle of vicodin/acetaminophen left over from my hand surgery last year...same thing, nothing works (pill wise) but vicodin


I have another suggestion tho, have you tried topical stuff? Icyhot on your back and stomach works REALLY well. I use that if im at home, otherwise you have to explain to people why you smell like a peppermint candycane...I'd try it

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I've been in health care for a long time and do some work with chronic pain patients. I just want to say that warning bells go off when patients request specific meds by name, especially narcotics.
I would do what some others here suggest; explain to the doc that cramping is severe and that the usual meds are not helpful. I'd even say that I took a vicodin and that it worked very well, rather than ask for it outright, least he or she labels you as drug seeker.

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I've been in health care for a long time and do some work with chronic pain patients. I just want to say that warning bells go off when patients request specific meds by name, especially narcotics.
When I'm faced with that, I've actually done exactly what you suggest; the other thing I'll do is tell them not what I want, but what I know does *NOT* work.
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If your cramps are that bad, why not have endometrial ablation and be done with periods for good? If you're done having children, I highly recommend it. I was having long, irregular periods and had the ablation done a year and a half ago. Since then, I have had no period, no cramps, nothing! It is awesome!!
I was done having kids the day I was born! So that's no issue. But it seems like overkill to go through a surgical procedure when Mother Nature will take care of the problem for me in 5-10 years! (I'm 44.) Of course, I don't know what's involved ... if it could be done on an outpatient basis, and I could go back to work the next day, heck, sign me up!

It's funny because for 25 years, I had NO problems whatsoever ... in fact, I looked a bit askance when other women complained about their monthlies. I figured they were just whiners! I wish I could call up my former secretaries now, and tell them I'm sorry if I groused a bit about them calling off from time to time. I UNDERSTAND NOW!!

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I've been in health care for a long time and do some work with chronic pain patients. I just want to say that warning bells go off when patients request specific meds by name, especially narcotics.
I would do what some others here suggest; explain to the doc that cramping is severe and that the usual meds are not helpful. I'd even say that I took a vicodin and that it worked very well, rather than ask for it outright, least he or she labels you as drug seeker.
I think this is what I'll do.
I can't blame doctors for being suspicious, although sheesh ... looking at my medical history shouldn't raise any red flags ... I don't take ANYTHING! And hardly ever go in. So ...

I've taken up to 3 Motrin at a time. My husband mentioned prescription-strength is 4, but I really hesitate to take that much. Aleve doesn't help the cramps at all, although it's what I usually take for my everyday aches and pains (but not more than once or twice a week ... I worry about taking too much or too often).

Heating pads and Biofreeze (similar to icyhot, I think) help, but not enough to be anything more than marginally functional. I'm self-employed -- I don't have paid sick days and I can't reschedule clients (because my calendar is full; I'd have no place to put them!). I have to go to work!

I'm not sure about the dose ... I did ask my husband what it was because I was worried in case I had some sort of bad reaction, and had to go the E.R. ... felt it might be important to know exactly what I had taken, LOL. He said they were "500" ... I assumed milligrams ... but it's possible he misread the bottle or something.

Anyway, thanks for the suggestions!
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I know how you can get rid of your period for at least 9 months....

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AAAAAARRRGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

No thanks, I'll just live with the pain ...

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Vicoden is very addictive and you do not want to take it unless absolutely nessiscary.

There are natural things you can do that will fix the cause of the cramps rather than masking the symtoms.

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I don't "get" the whole addiction thing because they didn't change the way I felt at all, other than to eliminate the pain. It wasn't like I got buzzed, or any sort of 'pleasant' feeling ... and that's GOOD ... I have no desire to be in any kind of altered state! So I can't imagine taking the stuff for any reason other than to get rid of pain ... and I can't believe taking it for 2 or 3 days a month would elicit some sort of physical addiction to the drug.

I certainly wouldn't want to become addicted, or to take anything that's going to make me dopey or sleepy or otherwise not at the top of my game. That would kind of defeat the purpose!

And, what are these natural things of which you speak?

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Menstrual cramps are caused by prostaglandins, molecular compounds released when your old uterine lining starts breaking down. Prostaglandins cause your uterus to contract. Researchers have found that in comparing women who experience cramps to those who don't, there is a direct correlation between elevated levels of prostaglandins and crippling pain.

I would start by eleminating grains and sugar from my diet, taking borrage oil, flax seeds, b vitamins, and make sure to get plenty og exercise. If you want to really start feeling awesome quickly. Go on a a raw diet for at least month. Maybe 2, you will notice a huge difference in the way you feel.

I have 3 people clsoe to me who were addicted to vicoden and it was horrible for them and their family.

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wonder if you dont have endreometreosis--i had that and it sucked to get my periods,,great thing about menopause it all went away. i have had friends get meds from doctors for cramps ect but i dont think it was pain killers but am not positive--thought they were muscle relaxers.

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That is interesting! One of the ladies I clean for is really into CAM, and keeps giving me bottles of flax seed oil because she insists I need to take it. I can't bear to hurt her feelings, so I have, like, 6 bottles in the freezer or somewhere around here ... maybe I will give that a shot.

The prostaglandin connection also makes a lot of sense, because I know my hormones are whacked and always have been! I'm 44 and have never had a period 2 months in a row IIRC ... generally my cycles go anywhere from 45 days to 4 months! My mother once told me that she was the same way up until she had me, then things straightened out and she was "normal" until menopause. I was, like, "Umm, no thanks -- I'll just deal with surprise visits from Aunt Flo!"

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Shygirl and Willow:

Endometrial ablation is an outpatient procedure. The actual procedure took only 2 minutes. I did mine without any pain meds (stupid), but they recommended a percoset beforehand. Basically, they use a laser to burn off the uterine lining so that it doesn't grow back any more. No lining = no periods! Some women do continue to have a very light, one day period afterward. You do have to be sure that you are done having children, but they also recommend another form of birth control (my tubes were already tied) because of the slight risk of ectopic pregnancy.

Overall, I am VERY glad I had it done.

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Willow girl - boy do I feel your pain! Sounds like we have a lot in common. I am 44 & have so much pain I cannot work/function. "Luckily" the pain only lasts 2 days. But in those 2 days I have to take 6 (yes that was 6) ibuprofen every 4 hours. After about 3 1/2 hrs I start hurting. I know that is WAY to much - but thats what I have to do. Dr has "tried" endometrial ablation twice-once in her office & once while knocked out in the hospital. Neither worked....

Will be watching this thread closely.....

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Mirena IUD cured my horrible cramps. We couldn't have kids anyway so the IUD isn't serving any purpose of protection, but it works fabulously to keep away the cramps! My cycles are so light I don't can't even tell when I'm having it most of the time.

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