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12/25/10, 06:57 PM
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cold frozen north question
In the winters, I'm normally far south. For the past few days, I've been in Tennessee. It starts getting DARK at 4:30 PM. It's almost painful. How in the world do you folks farther north cope with such a short day EVERY day?? 
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12/25/10, 07:31 PM
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go to walmart or a sporting goods store and get a headlite. This is a lite on an adjustable band that goes around your head with the lite on your forehead. they are lite enough that you can forget that you have them on
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12/25/10, 07:45 PM
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How in the world do you folks farther north cope with such a short day EVERY day??
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Must be inherited ....
It gets better after Dec 22.....
Plus we have electric lights and such... 
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12/25/10, 08:27 PM
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Probably a lot more people with SAD when the days start getting short in the fall, otherwise we just are used to it.
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12/25/10, 08:30 PM
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um, cry?
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12/25/10, 08:35 PM
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it's not always easy... lights help... so do "winter hobbies". (indoor hobbies to take your mind off how dark it is outside, like sewing, crafts, woodworking, embroidery, painting etc)
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12/25/10, 09:34 PM
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Full spectrum lights inside the house help keep the blues away in winter.
On the brighter side, in the summer people who live in the north get a lot more hours of daylight than the people in the south do. Up to 19 hours of light from dawn to dusk here at the 49th parallel, 24 hours in the Arctic. 
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12/25/10, 09:41 PM
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Hibernate. 
Seriously though, I like the early evenings. I seem to get a lot done indoors that needs to be done. Time for crafts, baking, hobbies, writing, reading, planning the garden and so on.
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12/25/10, 10:04 PM
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You get used to it. Not always fun, but it's not like there's a choice. Headlights are great! We also have really long days in the summer though, so it kinda makes up for it. It doesn't get dark until near 10:00 in July & August.
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12/25/10, 10:29 PM
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We go Gigging at night on the river have plenty of Light. :happy0035:
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12/25/10, 10:35 PM
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We don't reset our clocks so it doesn't get totally dark here until about 5:45pm....but its not bright enough out until about 8:45am to see to feed animals without a flashlight. NOT happy having to feed my rabbits in the morning AND the evening with a flashlight.  BUt the rest of it we just get used to. I don't really do outdoor activities until the weekend.
It gets better! But then I think we get more daylight in the summer. At the height of it I can still see to ride my horse until about 11pm...although its usually pretty dark seconds after that. Although often there is a glow in the north (where the sun doesnt go down) that keeps it bright in the sky and really make it look like the long sunset just kinda turned into a long sunrise. Summer days last forever.
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12/25/10, 10:38 PM
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OLF, already planning your garden? I've gotten my third seed catalog this week.
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12/25/10, 10:39 PM
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I usually read about gardening and plan my garden for the next year. Also, try to do save those inside jobs / chores for this time of year.
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12/25/10, 10:53 PM
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I live on top of Michigan next to Lake Superior. It doesn't get dark here until after 5pm. It depends on where you are in relation to the timeline. 30 miles west of me, they're an hour behind us in time.
When I was growing up in San Diego it got dark a LOT earlier then it does up here.
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12/25/10, 11:19 PM
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This time of year in Fairbanks, AK you get 4 hours at best to enjoy the sun. Folks use SAD light boxes, full spectum bulbs everywhere they can. Most have Christmas lights up outside all winter. LOTS on antidepressants. Same ratio of Natives as non- Natives. But the cold is worse than the dark.
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12/25/10, 11:38 PM
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4:30? That's not too bad.
When we still lived in the mountains the sun would dip behind the peak at around 3. It dropped us into an eerie twilight in the winters.
I could set my watch by when the people further down the valley lit their woodstove. I could see the smoke. They went in the shadow before us.
Here we have seeable light until around 5:30.. and getting longer everyday now! Yeah Solstice!
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12/25/10, 11:47 PM
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You get used to it. I go to bed ALOT earlier in the winter - around 7 or 8 pm whereas in the summer I stay up till dark - usually puttering around outside - which is about 10 pm so don't get to bed until 11 or 12.....of course I'm on vacation during the summer also so can do that.
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Oh COSunflower, isn't that the truth? I'm up at five every morning through the year; but the time I go to bed has everything to do with the change of seasons. In the winter I'm in bed by 8pm. In summer it might be 10:30 or 11, and I do it night after night. I don't find I get any more tired. I figure I'm just a throwback of some sort, a more primitive version of human who isn't that far removed from bears and other hibernating creatures.
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12/26/10, 07:37 AM
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4:30? That's not too bad.
When we still lived in the mountains the sun would dip behind the peak at around 3. It dropped us into an eerie twilight in the winters.
I could set my watch by when the people further down the valley lit their woodstove. I could see the smoke. They went in the shadow before us.
Here we have seeable light until around 5:30.. and getting longer everyday now! Yeah Solstice!
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It does that here. We are located on the east side of the ridge. I go out to do chores usually at 3:00 pm and right at about 3:30, there is a change in the lights and you get a different feeling. My SIL calls our road the spooky road, cause of more darkness and the overhanging trees along the road as you ride up the mountain to get to our place
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12/26/10, 07:50 AM
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We sit around thinking about what you southerners go through in the summer.....
Seriously - with snow on the ground it isn't even dark enough to need a flashlight. It doesn't actually get dark here until 5:30 and I can have my chores finished by then so who cares if it's dark out?
It's not the early dark that's the problem - it's that sometimes all daylong it's gray out. I lived in Iowa 12 years and had a very difficult time in winter. Then moved to TN and loved it. Then moved to MI and love it. So quite possibly the difference isn't the weather but something inside myself. I have quite a few winter-time hobbies so I am very busy inside, just like I am busy outside in summer.
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