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07/23/10, 11:17 PM
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WOW What have i started -Obesity
 come on stop , Yes i have been over waight , and dont need to sit around reading eny studdies about it . People for a long time , say 80 years have lived such an ezy life thay have no idea of what it takes to realy live with out all the modern convenunsys , unless you have lived it . i have . like just to keep warm , having to cut 8 cords of wood each year , when thing get bad , and thay will , are lifestyle now a days is not sustainable and there are pleny of experts and yes studies to show this , you best know how to cut that wood , grow that garden , can thouse yegys OR not it's ok , as bush once sead dont worry be happy
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07/24/10, 12:07 AM
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And yet you continue...?
It'll get locked down too..
and I would comment, but I truly have no idea what you just said...
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07/24/10, 12:10 AM
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i think most people on these forums already think things are getting bad. and most are already trying to do as much homesteading as they are able to.
i do cut my own firewood, broke my own gardens w a tiller, raised veggies and been canning them and i raise nubians and chickens, too. i also work a full time job on the weekends. i'm a 50 year old female single mother and am overweight too! how much more do you want me to take on? i work at something all the time. was even a co-leader for girl scouts the last 2 years and my child still at home is an honor student. it takes an involved parent to keep her that way.
right now i'm at work too, waiting on my next patient. so i'm overweight. what imperfections would you care to share? or are you just perfect in each and every way? it does anger me a bit how you come across. is that all you care to talk about? how about the goodness in people regardless of looks? my dad always tells me i need to slow down and not work so hard. i picked 8 bu of corn monday after working a 16 hour shift. i kept roughly 6 of it and then went about canning and dehydrating it all. also, this week i have put up pickled okra and tomato relish and worked the pickles in the 3 crocks i have going. that's on top of everything else like the picking and feeding, etc.
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07/24/10, 12:24 AM
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I work on average 62 hours a week, mostly on my feet. I garden and mow my yard without the use of machines. I dig my own dirt. turn my compost weekly. I hike, backpack, swim, and bike to run errands. I walk three good sized dogs everyday. I'm 5'1" and eat between 1200-1400 cals a day, depending if I eat meat that week or not. I'm fat. I have PCOS. I can not eat large quantities of food, or fatty food without getting sick due to a damaged stomach. If I try I either throw up or have the runs, usually both, for hours. So I jsut don't. I am the most active member of my family. They are all skinny. What gives? I have PCOS, so that is an issue for sure. But ask any of my co-workers if they think I am lazy as I am the only one that takes the 7 flights of stairs at work several times a day.
I have managed not to respond to the bigotry and hate that has been thrown around the last day or so on these "fat people are lazy and stupid" threads. But enough is enough. If you can't have compassion, then at least keep your mouth shut. If you've never been fat, then of course it's easy for you to say jsut get off your butt. I know skiiny folks who need to get off thier butts and plenty of them have heart diesase, diabieties, high choleterol and bp to. I have none of those. My dr asked if I was a athleate. I told him jokeingly "Do I look like one?" I have been fat my whole life, even when I was running track in highschool and running 5 miles every day untill the car accident screwed up my one knee so bad it had to be surgically repaird. can't run now, I miss that, but whatever. I'm fat, therefore I'm lazy.
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07/24/10, 01:24 AM
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I'm fat but definately NOT lazy!!! My grandma always called me a "hyperactive fat girl" LOL My friends, family and even my drs know how active I am so I just don't worry about what other people think....
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07/24/10, 03:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NickieL
I have managed not to respond to the bigotry and hate that has been thrown around the last day or so on these "fat people are lazy and stupid" threads. But enough is enough. If you can't have compassion, then at least keep your mouth shut.
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No joke.
I'm overweight, yes. I eat less than a thousand calories a day. I am vegetarian, sometimes vegan. When I remember to eat something fatty, I lose weight. I generally don't remember though, and live on things like steamed squash and green beans. I am also breastfeeding my 22 month old son.
I'm solo parenting a toddler, my DH is overseas. Between playgroups, house renovations, errands, chasing DS around the yard, and our nightly walk with my 25 pound toddler strapped to my back in his carrier, it makes no sense. but there you have it. I used to love to run, but I cannot do that by myself; if I were injured, we'd be kind of SOL.
Six weeks ago I was in New Zealand for three weeks. I hiked up and down mountains/inactive volcanoes with said child on my back. I ate grilled fish and fruit. I swam.
I am also a Master Scuba Diver. My subqualifications include that of a Rescue Diver.
For future reference; threads are locked because the discussion deteriorated into, generally, a bunch of pointless snarling. Why do you choose to reopen that?
So let's see. I can save a 300 pound man from drowning. I can haul him from the bottom of a lake bed to the beach. I can shoot a bow. I know which plants to eat, and which not to. I have canned food, but prefer to freeze to maintain the nutrition of the food. I can freaking GIVE BIRTH and sustain that child from my body. And you know what? I look darn good doing it. Yet, to you, I am a fool. Spare. Me. If ya'll find yourselves at the bottom of the lake, I hope I'm good enough for you.
Excuse me. I have to go cackle a bit while I pack tomorrow's lunch. Probably bell pepper strips and melon chunks, maybe some of the winter squash I roasted today. We're headed out the door in five hours to run a few errands in town, go to the playground, and then swimming. At which point I will come home and repaint the bathroom. That blue just isn't working at all. A sort of sand, this time, I think.
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07/24/10, 03:47 AM
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I have Lupus, painful muscles and joints, incredible fatigue. I can't be as active as I once was and although I eat very little I am still overweight, but I do the best I can with this disease. I don't need anyone pointing their finger at my weight when they don't know my struggles. There are alot of folks out there with chronic diseases that can't exercise much such as MS, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Fibromyalgia,etc. My FIL had MS and he wound up in a wheelchair, ate very little, but the meds he was on made him gain lots of weight. He became a very overweight man through no fault of his own. Shame on people that judge when they just don't know the whole story......
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07/24/10, 06:37 AM
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Maybe while you're telling everybody else how to live their own lives, you could somehow find 5 minutes to learn how to use spell-check. Seeing as how you want everybody else to be perfect and all.
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07/24/10, 06:42 AM
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I was trying to restrain myself. Thank you.
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07/24/10, 07:10 AM
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You know what gets my goat? People always think type 2 diabetes is because you are fat and lazy and eat the wrong foods. When I became type 2 I was skinny, 95lb soaking wet at 5ft 7.
There are so many medical problems that can lead to extra weight.
Giving advice is one thing, thinking that you know the reason that person is overweight is another...some may indulge in the wrong foods and sit around doing nothing, but there are others who work as hard as you and eat healthy.
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07/24/10, 07:19 AM
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One more thing before i get off this thread and close my mouth. those of us who are overweight, WE KNOW WE ARE. We do not need people to tell us this. For many years even as a child I fretted about it, I was tease horendoulsy at school for it. I DIETED. I STARVED myself. I excersised for HOURS at a time, every day. Did I lose weight? I would lose maybe 5-10 lbs and that was it, for months at a time and no more, despite staying active and not "Stuffing my mouth full". The last few years, I've learned to love myself, even to enjoy who I am. I've learned that I do not need anyone's judgements to define ME. Everyone who knows me, loves me. AND THAT IS WHAT MATTERS. Not some fool's oppionion about what us "fat people" should do.
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07/24/10, 07:49 AM
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Wow.
What a heartbreaking topic, and the threads....yikes.
May I ask?
Does anyone else see 'obesity' at its root, an addiction??
I know there are so many medical conditions, and medicines that make things so much worse.
IE: Ambilify causes MASSIVE weight gain. Even when you are eating a perfectly healthy diet and exercising.
I know Lupas, and the handful of pills that must be taken daily, also packs on the pounds, even when eating right and exercising.
I know that a busted thyroid, and diabetes and the meds that go with treating those, causes the bodies weight to go crazy......
All medical conditions aside.
For those who do not struggle with medical conditions, or medicines....
Do you think obesitity is an addiction?
There is another thread about 'chemicals', and I really think that one is right on.....
I wish I knew chemistry, because I am convinced that all the artificial this, and chemical laden that..........when we injest it, those chemicals latch on to parts of our bodies and reek havoc.
(God Created and designed our food for us. It was good and perfect.
Man came along and thought "Huh, I am smarter than God, let me show you" and started tampering with our food (GMO / Chemicals / Pesticides) and now, we are reaping the consequences to our choices......IMHO)
So, is there any proof, or studies that show, this could be more of an addiction? A 'learned' behavior passed from generation to generation? A 'self-preservation' mechanism?
Again, this has been a cruel subject....I often wonder if everyone who has posted would sit in a room with everyone else, and stand on a stage and say what they have said.....
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07/24/10, 08:15 AM
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Since you don't need to read the studies on being over weight you really need to lay off the studies of "experts'' saying that things are getting bad and about sustainable living. It don't take an expert to know that. That is one reason we are on this forum.
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07/24/10, 08:20 AM
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Ardie .......getting her lawn chair, lemonade and popcorn....
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07/24/10, 08:23 AM
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Ardie .......getting her lawn chair, lemonade and popcorn.... 
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he he that better be sugar free lemonade and butter free popcorn!
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07/24/10, 08:28 AM
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Ardie .......getting her lawn chair, lemonade and popcorn.... 
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I'll join ya Ardie... even if it is like watching a movie we've seen before.. let's just pretend we haven't already seen the ending.
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07/24/10, 08:43 AM
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he he that better be sugar free lemonade and butter free popcorn!
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I prefer my popcorn plain and dry (no salt either). I'm weird, I know.
But, I like my lemon aid with sugar. Can't use artificial sweeteners because I would rather be fat than have more migraines!
I'm really tired right now and my hips are bothering me. Is it okay if I bring a quilt to stretch out on for the show?
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07/24/10, 08:47 AM
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