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Old 01/15/10, 01:01 PM
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ReallyDeep Boils? Anyone with experience?

Ok guys I dont talk much but I read lots and now come to y'all for input on my own issue finally.

My DH gets boils from time to time... ouchy but managable.
About 2 weeks ago he had one come up on his back that got HUGE. silver dollar sized, no head and horribly excrucuatingly painful. He went to the doc and they lanced it and discovered it is really deap(inch or so) you know the big medical q tip things? its deaper than the cotton end and a little bigger around depth wise. They packed it with gauze(6 inches or so yuck) and he has been going in every day to get repacked and has been on Doxycycline(sp?) last night it started hurting more like it originally had... when he went in today instead of getting better like it had it was back to about the original size and lots of yuck in it again. Today they switched him to Flagy 500mg 4 times a day. Has anyone else had this happen? They think it is Staph or Strep and are saying its not MRSA. I'm worried sick....... hes in a lot of pain and now it seems its not going AWAY......

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I do know something about this! My Dad had them for years. Just every now and then, but it went on for years. He had them lanced, he suffered, he had surgery to remove the "root" he tried prescriptions, everything he could. Well, my sister is into herbal medicine and stuff, got him to try Essiac tea. The boils finally stopped. He orders a capsule on line, and takes one every day. This is the ONLY time I have ever seen him stick to something! He says as long as he takes 1 Essiak (different company, same herbs) capsule a day, the boils have not returned in several years.
Get some! I know how miserable he is!


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Old 01/15/10, 02:56 PM
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Be VERY careful. Do not press on it or try any home remedies at this time. Take all the antibiotics.

My hubby got the germs into his bloodstream and his kidneys failed.

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I get them all the time asked the dr. and he told me to try a drawing salve you can buy at the drug store the one that I bought is called, SMILE'S PRID a all natural drawing salve I put it on 3 times a day and in a couple of days it has always done the trick even works on ingrown nails.
I comes in a small round orange tin canister and cost about $6.00 hope it helps,paula
and it is made in ST.Louis

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Old 01/15/10, 03:52 PM
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Yeah.. I aint touchin that nasty thang..... Its mucho bandaged and covered to protect it....

Rose- hes been looked over quite a bit and nothing found, ruled out diabeetes, high blood pressure, vitamin deficiency...etc. Hes a healthy ox most of the time.. He gets them usually on his armpits and inner thighs.. theres a name for it but I cant remember... He is a Diesel mechanic on the Kodiaks and some days no matter how hard he tries he gets soaked head to toe in some nasty gunk... lately hes had to work on the ground a lot... probably why this is popping up on his back. They are telling him its pretty much a zit that didnt form a head and turned into a boil... expect its really bad. *gag*. the last time he had a health issue they ran every test under the sun and all came back clear.

Alice....THATS why Im scared. Hes had a few boughts of chills though no fever that hes noticed, part of why they upped his antibitics today. So far its not getting worse... just not better.

Paula.... I tried that stuff before it got really bad and it didnt do anything. I sure wish it had helped.


Im just scared and worried.... I love that big ox...

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Old 01/15/10, 04:29 PM
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The Smiles Prid salve is only suitable for superficial boils. It won't draw the core out.

Now I'm not suggesting you do this, just passing the information along.

My mom used to treat loggers who got huge deep boils like that. It is called a carbuncle when it gets like that, which is a cluster of smaller boils all together in one place under the skin. Very nasty. She would make a poultice from slippery elm powder and put that over top of the dressing. The slippery elm draws the infection and the core of each boil in the cluster out and up into the dressing.

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That really sounds Exactly like what Dad USED to go through. It would put him in bed for 2 weeks, and he's normally healthy as a horse. I'm definitley not saying don't take the scripts, but really do try the Essiac. He went to many doctors and tried many things, seriously. He had like 2 a year, for 20 years.

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Sugar or honey will draw it out, too. My dad had a big hole that would not heal on his back and his friend, who is a retired doctor, told him about the sugar. He said doctors, if they even know about it, won't tell you, because it is too simple and free. So, my mom started filling the cavity with sugar and putting a bandage over it. What the doctors worked on, unsuccessfully, for many months, was fixed in two weeks with the sugar.

Of course, I would not stop taking the antibiotics.

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Old 01/15/10, 05:23 PM
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Sugar draws very well, we use it on the horses.

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I have a cousin that gets the horrible boils--cysts. It started on her face when she was about 19 or 20-way past puberty-they were big, big ugly things. It has happened on and off during her life, sometimes the doctors would lance them also and pack them. She is having a bad bout right now. She has doctored all her life-I think she will 60 or 61 in Feb. She is going to another specialist now, but she is having problems with her liver right now. Don't know if the 2 are connected, but I have seen them, they are horrible!! I will have to pass on the info from this forum to her, I am sure she will try anything. When she is stressed, lack of sleep seem to contribute to her condition. Good Luck.

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Have you tried Tea Tree Oil? My husband has boils in his armpit area and inner thighs. When there is the first sign of one I start rubbing tea tree oil on it several times a day and they usually go away. You can find TTO at Walmart.

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How do they know it's not MRSA? The only way to know for sure is to culture it. They then can test what antibiotics are non-resistant to it. I battled MRSA for 2 yrs. and finally Levaquin knocked it out. 14 pills $400.00 but it worked thank God.

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UPDATE: they changed his antibitoics again... to Bactrim. Results so far of the culture are a form of Staph that is uncommon and they dont normally see and is ver slow growing. Stupid me forgot the name... dangit. I really wanted to research it before we go in tommorow for his repacking *gag*. Doc says its not major and the Bactrim shouldwork pretty quickly *HOPE*. Now the culture is showing two other bugs but they are even more slow growing and they arent for sure what they are yet.... at least thats what a gathered from a fast chat with the doc........

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Bactrim is good stuff. They put hubby on that when he had peritonitis.

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Staphylococcus lugdunensis

I found the name! Staphylococcus lugdunensis
Im not having much luck finding info in regular Engrish though.....

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Good grief, I haven't heard of that strain.

Staphylococcus lugdunensis is a member of the genus Staphylococcus, consisting of Gram-positive bacteria with spherical cells that appear in clusters. It was first described in 1988 and was recorded as a cause of serious human infections such as endocarditis, osteomyelitis, and septicaemia. It occurs as a commensal on human skin. In the past it was frequently misidentified as S. hominis, S. aureus, or other species.

S. lugdunensis may produce a bound coagulase (that is, the enzyme is bound to the cells), a property which it shares with S. aureus, but unlike S. aureus it does not produce a free coagulase. In the laboratory it can give a positive slide-coagulase test but a negative tube-coagulase test.

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Be glad its not MRSA. Be very very glad.

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Did they culture it? I hope they did before they started the antibiotics. I'm glad that he's going in regularly to have it packed. If it continues to worsen or not get better I'd ask for a referral to an infectious disease doc. These things can be quite serious.
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Here is some information I found ... the PDF link may be the more detailed.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC153917/

http://jcm.asm.org/cgi/content/abstract/29/3/419

http://www.sma.org.sg/smj/4104/articles/4104cr1.pdf

http://content.karger.com/produktedb...&file=pne35128

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Sugar or honey will draw it out, too. My dad had a big hole that would not heal on his back and his friend, who is a retired doctor, told him about the sugar. He said doctors, if they even know about it, won't tell you, because it is too simple and free. So, my mom started filling the cavity with sugar and putting a bandage over it. What the doctors worked on, unsuccessfully, for many months, was fixed in two weeks with the sugar.

Of course, I would not stop taking the antibiotics.
This is true. There was a series of articles on wound treatment with honey and sugar in one of my veterinary journals (refereed and very legitimate source) several years ago. The sugars draw water out and away from the bacteria so they can't survive.
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