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Old 11/10/09, 08:24 AM
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When the "Gales of November" come early.....

Thirty-four years ago today, 29 maritime sailors left the Port of Duluth Minnesota never to return again. Do you remember?

Click here ==> The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald Tribute

Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
of the big lake they called "Gitche Gumee."
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
when the skies of November turn gloomy.
With a load of iron ore twenty-six thousand tons more
than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty,
that good ship and true was a bone to be chewed
when the "Gales of November" came early.

The ship was the pride of the American side
coming back from some mill in Wisconsin.
As the big freighters go, it was bigger than most
with a crew and good captain well seasoned,
concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms
when they left fully loaded for Cleveland.
And later that night when the ship's bell rang,
could it be the north wind they'd been feelin'?

The wind in the wires made a tattle-tale sound
and a wave broke over the railing.
And ev'ry man knew, as the captain did too
'twas the witch of November come stealin'.
The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait
when the Gales of November came slashin'.
When afternoon came it was freezin' rain
in the face of a hurricane west wind.

When suppertime came the old cook came on deck sayin'.
"Fellas, it's too rough t'feed ya."
At seven P.M. a main hatchway caved in; he said,
"Fellas, it's bin good t'know ya!"
The captain wired in he had water comin' in
and the good ship and crew was in peril.
And later that night when 'is lights went outta sight
came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Does any one know where the love of God goes
when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay
if they'd put fifteen more miles behind 'er.
They might have split up or they might have capsized;
they may have broke deep and took water.
And all that remains is the faces and the names
of the wives and the sons and the daughters.

Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings
in the rooms of her ice-water mansion.
Old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams;
the islands and bays are for sportsmen.
And farther below Lake Ontario
takes in what Lake Erie can send her,
And the iron boats go as the mariners all know
with the Gales of November remembered.

In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed,
in the "Maritime Sailors' Cathedral."
The church bell chimed 'til it rang twenty-nine times
for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald.
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
of the big lake they call "Gitche Gumee."
"Superior," they said, "never gives up her dead
when the gales of November come early!"
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Old 11/10/09, 09:42 AM
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living here in Michigan it is hard to forget..my son was 9 mo old
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Old 11/10/09, 09:47 AM
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I remember and think about it every time I watch the ships on the lake and even down here watching them go thru the locks on the Mississippi

doesn't Lake Superior have the unfortunate reputation of having the highest rate of shipwrecks for any body of water?
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Thank you, Gordon Lightfoot.
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Everytime I hear that song I get a cold chill down my body....nothing like what those poor sailors felt.
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Old 11/10/09, 10:40 AM
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We lose fishermen all the time here on the WCoast of Wa state. Said and a reality of the job.
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Old 11/10/09, 11:14 AM
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I was just a child then (about 4 yrs old), and lived in Milan Michigan at the time. I remember the song most of all (Forest Whitaker recorded the song as well), but also remember that, that was the BIG news on every front page and all the news casts in that area. For some reason though in my childs mind I couldn't fathom that it was a current event. I thought (at that time) it had happened many years befor. Don't know why...think it was the pictures I saw in the paper, but to me they looked like they were from the 1930's or something
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Old 11/10/09, 12:36 PM
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We lose fishermen all the time here on the WCoast of Wa state. Said and a reality of the job.

I'm going to try really hard not to read that as being said maliciously.. Those Men werent fishermen, and the Edmund Fitzgerald wasnt a dingy or a canoe, and there is a huge difference between Lake Superior and most any other body of fresh water. You generally dont find bodies that have been lost to Superior.

At any rate...

Thank you for the reminder Cabin Fever, it is because of you that I remember each year and I enjoy my time on this day each year digging a bit deeper into the history of the Ship lost and the Lake that stole her and her crew.
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I remember the day well...
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Yep, I remember.

It's also one of favorites songs of all time.
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When I get to feeling too big for my britches, I listen to the wave height forcast for Lake Michigan when the water really gets in the spirit. They are Great Lakes. Makes me feel very small.

I remember the popular balled when this happened but I did not understand at first that men really died.
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I'm going to try really hard not to read that as being said maliciously.. Those Men werent fishermen, and the Edmund Fitzgerald wasnt a dingy or a canoe, and there is a huge difference between Lake Superior and most any other body of fresh water. .
Um... I'm pretty sure this poster was referring to the commercial fishermen from Washington who are lost in the Gulf of Alaska nearly every year.
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Old 11/10/09, 02:29 PM
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Thanks for the explanation Katey! I sure hoped it wasnt meant as I first read it!
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Thank you for the reminder, it does seem like something that happened years before our time. Next time I go to Duluth I will have to make sure to revisit the Museum.
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[ Its amazing to stand there and look out across that enormous lake (that for all the world seems like an ocean) ]

Superior surely does seem like an ocean. My daughters remember to this day their crossing to Isle Royale on the "Wenona" - an unsettled day in Sept. 13 years ago that had EVERYONE on the 65 foot boat seasick to the extreme. I remember seeing the Edmund Fitzgerald exhibit in Sault Ste. Marie on the way home from that trip.
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I thought I'd share some of the Information I found about this shipwreck. I hope you enjoy learning about the song as much as I did. I'll have to do this in two posts... too much research for one I guess.


The sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald and the loss of her 29-member crew during a violent fall storm on November 10, 1975, just northwest of Whitefish Point in southeast Lake Superior was at the time the worst maritime disaster on the Great Lakes in nine years. Of the more than 1000 ships that have found their graves under the icy waters of the Great Lakes, the Fitzgerald is still the largest ever to go down. Just like the Titanic, the demise of this seemingly invincible vessel has attracted widespread attention and inspired songwriters and authors to tell her story. Due to the ice cold water of Lake Superior, the bodies of drowning victims do not eventually bloat and rise to the surface; consequently, these men were never found.
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“The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee”

Gitche Gumee translates roughly to “Shining Big-Sea-Water”.

“The lake it is said never gives up her dead when the skies of november turn gloomy”

To put it rather bluntly, the reason so few bodies are recovered from off shore drownings
in Lake Superior is because the bodies first tend to sink (or are still on board a vessel) but
because of the depth and frigid temperatures, the victims do not naturally decompose.
Because of the lack of oxygen producing organisms, the bodies remain on the bottom.

“With a load of iron ore 26,000 tons more than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty”

When empty, the Fitzgerald weighed 8,686 net tons. The hold was filled with 26,013 tons
of iron ore pellets called taconite, used mainly for automobile production.

“That good ship and true was a bone to be chewed when the gales of november came early”

Lake superior is on average 533 feet deep with an extreme depth of 1333 feet. It is 400
miles long which, when the wind blows across it’s length, the waves can build to greater
heights than found on less dense sea water, even in hurricane winds.

“The ship was the pride of the american side”

The Fitz was named after a Milwaukee banker and was launched into the River Rouge
basin in June 1958. The owner was Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance Company of
Milwaukee and operated by the Columbia Transportation Company.

“Comin’ back from some mill in Wisconsin”

Superior, Wisconsin.

"As the big freighters go it was bigger than most”

The ship was 729 feet long, 75 feet wide, 39 feet deep. She was the largest Great Lakes
steamer when launched in 1958, its size limited only by the largest lock on Sault St, Marie.
Larger 1000 ft. boats were possible after the construction of the Poe lock in 1969.

“With a crew and good captain well seasoned”

Captain Ernest R. McSorley, 62 years old, started sailing as a deckhand on ocean vessels
when he was 18 years old. After transferring to freshwater freighters, he made his way
through the ranks, eventually becoming the youngest to make captain.

“Concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms when they left fully loaded for Cleveland”


The Fitzgerald was “downbound” to unload its cargo in Detroit and then continue on to
Cleveland to dock for the winter months.

“And later that night when the ship’s bell rang could it be the north wind they’d bin feelin’”

The Fitzgerald and the Anderson, a second freighter following close behind, knew of the
gale warnings posted by the National Weather Service. They decided to alter their course
and head towards the North shore of Superior for shelter against the heart of the storm.

“The wind in the wires made a tattletale sound and a wave broke over the railing”

The two boats (great lake sailors prefer “boat” to “ship”), followed the Canadian shore to
the Caribou Island near “Six Fathom Shoals.” The Anderson’s captain Jesse “Bernie”
Cooper, remarks how close the Fitz is to the shoals. Crossing the lake in an attempt to
harbor the storm, the two make a course for Whitefish Bay Michigan. In heavy seas, the
Fitzgerald sustains topside damage and radios the Anderson, “Anderson, this is the
Fitzgerald. I have sustained some topside damage. I have a fence rail laid down, two vents
lost or damaged, and a list. I’m checking down. Will you stay by me till I get to Whitefish?”

“And every man knew as the captain did too, ’twas the witch of november come stealin’”

The Fitzgerald has two radar sets but both use a common antenna. The Fitzgerald calls on
the radio to the Arthur M. Anderson. “Anderson, this is the Fitzgerald. I have lost both
radars. Can you provide me with radar plots till we reach Whitefish Bay?”

“Charlie on that, Fitzgerald. We’ll keep you advised of your position.”

“The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait when the gales of november came slashin’”


Winds were 40 to 45 knots with waves to 20 ft.

“When afternoon came it was freezin’ rain in the face of a hurricane west wind”


The Sault St, Marie Locks report winds of seventy knots, gusts up to eighty-two, about
ninety-five mph!

” When suppertime came the old cook came on deck sayin’ “fellas it’s too rough to feed ya”

Ironically, the “old” cook was suffering from bleeding ulcers and was unable to make the
last voyage. He is considered by some as “the sole survivor of the Fitzgerald”.

“At seven p.m. a main hatchway caved in he said “fellas it’s been good to know ya”

The Anderson reports being hit by two huge waves which go over the pilot house, 35 feet
above the water line.

“The captain wired in he had water comin’ in and the good ship and crew was in peril”

Although McSorley told the Anderson he had developed a list and was, infact, taking on
water, his main concern was that because of the loss of radar and new reports of the
Whitefish Bay Lighthouse being broken down, the Fitzgerald was sailing blind and due to
the list, the Fitzgerald was pulling to the left. They had to rely on the Anderson for
guidance. When the Anderson radioed back later to ask how they were doing with their
problem, McSorley replied “We are holding our own”. That was the last thing heard from
the Fitzgerald.

“And later that night when ‘is lights went out of sight came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald”

The tremendous waves on Lake Superior kept interfering with the Anderson’s radar,
showing the Fitzgerald some 10 miles ahead of her. As the Anderson would dip with a
large wave, the Fitzgerald and all other boats in the area would disappear, showing up
again as the Anderson would crest. At 7:10 the Anderson rose above a wave and the
radar showed three blips, saltwater ships, the Navafors, the Avafors, and the Benfri about
20 miles downbound. But no Fitzgerald. In the span of just a few seconds, with no distress
call, the Fitzgerald was gone.

“Does anyone know where the love of god goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours”

The Anderson contacted the Coast Guard in Sault St. Marie. “Soo Control, this is the
Anderson. I am very concerned about the welfare of the steamer Edmund Fitzgerald. He
was right in front of us, experiencing a little difficulty. He was taking on a small amount of
water and none of the upbound ships have passed him. I can see no lights as before and I
don’t have him on radar. I just hope he didn’t take a nose dive!”

The air temperature at the time was 49 degrees and the water temperature was 40
degrees. Under these conditions a man would go into shock in 30 minutes.

“The searchers all say they’d have made Whitefish Bay if they’d put fifteen more miles behind ‘er”

A floating debris field was found the next morning and a 1000 yard long oil slick about 13
miles from Whitefish Point. On later days, small objects were found near the Canadian
shore, lifevests and rings, bottles, splintered wood, the largest object being a crumpled raft
with the Fitzgerald’s name.

“They might have split up or they might have capsized they may have broke deep and took water”

The wreckage is in two major pieces. The bow section is 276 feet long and upright. The
stern section is 253 feet long and upside down. The sections are 170 feet apart. About 200
feet of the midsection is disintegrated. Although there is no conclusive evidence pointing to
what the cause was, the most popular therory is that because the Fitz was taking on water,
the taconite cargo shifted toward the bow making it unbalanced, heavy to the front. When
the Fitz plunged into the valley between two large waves, she submarined to the bottom,
striking the lake’s floor with enough force to break her in two.

“And all that remains is the faces and the names of the wives and the sons and the daughters”

There has been no attempt by the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum at Whitefish Point,
which had made several exploratory expeditions down to the werckage, to recover the
crew.

“Lake Huron rolls Superior sings
in the rooms of her ice water mansion
Old Michigan steams like a young man’s dreams
the islands and bays are for sportsmen
and farther below Lake Ontario
takes in what Lake Erie can send her
and the Iron boats go as the mariners all know
with the gales of november remembered”

There is estimated to be more than 6000 commercial shipwrecks in the Great Lakes, and
fewer than half of these have been located.

“In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed
in the maritime sailors’ cathedral
the church bell chimed ’til it rang 29 times
for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald”


The ship went down in Lake Superior on November 10, 1975 with 29 men on board.

“The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
Superior they said never gives up her dead
when the gales of november come early”
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Yes, I remember also. So tragic. ldc
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Old 11/10/09, 06:43 PM
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Such a loss we shouldn't ever forget. We watched the video and my wife commented that she couldn't beleive anyone could want to do that job! I had to admit it was a direction I considered when I was about 17. Not sorry I didn't but those lakes are special to my mothers family. She lost a great uncle when his ship was lost on Huron.
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I remember and was reminded everytime my Dad would play his guitar and sing the song. Though a silly teen-ager at the time, I realized the tragedy of the Edmund Fitzgerald. I still love Gordan Lightfoot. My Dad wasn't bad, either.
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