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02/24/08, 11:58 PM
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Mountain lion
There has been many discussions and arguments about there being mountain lions in WV. I just got this email from a friend. Do you think this is a mountain lion or wild dog? You be the judge. Sam
This lion was hit between Grantsville and Walker
> > WV, by a car. Game and Fish had to come and put him down.
> > He charged at the Fish and Game guy in the process. Look at
> > his PAWS!.

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02/25/08, 12:34 AM
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We live in SW Virginia here in the mountains and my husband and his dad saw a mountain lion on our place, very close to our house. My husband tried to shoot it but it ran.
our goats would not go out where the ML was spotted and after we saw it we figured out what was wrong with our goats.
i was scared to let my daughter go out and play for the longest time.
You know it is a beautiful creature, but dangerous. Those pictures are awesome, i can not get over how big the paw is on it!
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02/25/08, 01:19 AM
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There are big cats in just about every state of the union. Where they have been before, they will be again, so look after your goats and family. A weird thing about them is that if one was there 20 years ago and ran a certain track on his hunts, one newly introduced by the Game and Fish fellows would immediately begin to run that same path.
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02/25/08, 08:29 AM
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Tansam, I believe they are certainly all around WV. Here in Grant Co, we have a guy, John Lutz that runs Eastern Puma Research. He lives in Maysville. You may want to check his site out. He wants people to let him know about sightings of these cats in WV
My dd saw one a few years ago in the Harper Ferrys Nat park. She said it was black and we hear it screaming at night. But Fish & Wildlife keeps saying no Way.
There is also Cougar Quest of the Northern Shenandaoh VAlley. THey are documenting these sightings.
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02/25/08, 01:18 PM
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With more development in the wild places, and deer now being found in so many more places, there has been a pretty big upswing in the numbers of sightings of various wild animals, including cougars.
Look to yerself, yer livestock and yer pets. More people = less habitat, and everyone, including the cougar, is feeling the crowding.
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02/25/08, 01:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tamsam
There has been many discussions and arguments about there being mountain lions in WV. I just got this email from a friend. Do you think this is a mountain lion or wild dog? You be the judge. Sam
This lion was hit between Grantsville and Walker
> > WV, by a car. Game and Fish had to come and put him down.
> > He charged at the Fish and Game guy in the process. Look at
> > his PAWS!.
 
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Why on earth would anyone think it was a dog???
tinda
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02/25/08, 01:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tinda
Why on earth would anyone think it was a dog???
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I wondered that too ...
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02/25/08, 02:01 PM
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You can tell that's a mountain lion without enlarging the picture.
Anyone that thinks that's a dog needs a biology lesson.
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02/25/08, 02:05 PM
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Um, where are the pictures?
Growing up in Ky I couldn't keep cats. The bob cats kept eating them. One jumped on the trailer once- scary! My father shot one- beautiful animal- but deadly to other small animals. Don't reckon we ever saw anything larger, although there were some HORRIBLE sounding screams around there at night sometimes...
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02/25/08, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sage_morgan
I wondered that too ... 
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Because the DNR insists in so many states that there are NO mountain lions in the state. We had a female with cubs around our area. Folks got pictures and were told they were dogs although the pic in the papper really really really looked like a female ML with cubs
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02/25/08, 03:00 PM
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It's weird that the DNR would lie like that.
I take it back. I know too many credible people who've seen grizzlies in our Cascade mountains where the Dept of Fish and Game says they don't exist.
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02/25/08, 03:03 PM
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Those photos look like the ones circulating around PA a couple of years ago (people said it was shot near Harrisburg, PA). Turned out it was hoax as the cat had been shot out west somewhere.
DNR strongly opposes anyone who tries to say they are in PA-maybe they have their reasons-but people aren't stupid and it's not too hard to identify a mountain lion. I believe that mountain lions live in my home state, too.
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02/25/08, 03:16 PM
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Awhile back we could hear the screams of some wild cat and people have said there have been sightings of a black panther up and down our road.
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02/25/08, 03:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tamsam
Do you think this is a mountain lion or wild dog? You be the judge.]
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Hmmm! Could be a cog or a dat, but judging from size I would guess a dat. DNA testing will possibly give proof that they actually exist.
They were said to resemble a large cat, but with very large canines.
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02/25/08, 07:35 PM
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Ah, I see it now. Apparently the other computer didn't like pictures.....
That's a BIG cat.
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02/25/08, 08:26 PM
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The reason for asking if it was a dog was a joke towards the dnr here as they say any tracks you see are dog tracks including bear. This one was said to be put down by the dnr so I waiting to see what they call it. They will tell you that there is no wolfs in WV even though they are the ones that turned them loose to kill off some of the youts. Timber wolf that is and they are in the southern counties and luckily they were nutered and spayed before being turned loose. Here in Doddridge County a couple years ago something killed a big horse just up the road from us by ripping out its throat and ate a big hunk out of the carcass. They said again that it was most likely dogs. I personally know several people who has seen blacl panters her in Doddridge County. Sam
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02/25/08, 08:58 PM
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Definately a mountain lion. I think they are so pretty. My grandpa had to shoot one that set up home in his garage behind his fridge. She was an old cat who couldn't hunt any more so she came down from the mountains and started eating his dogs. He lived out in the middle of nowhere Nevada though. I am sure they are in WV too, we have them here in MD where I live but none near residential areas that I know of.
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02/25/08, 09:47 PM
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In Maryland?
MamaVolpe, please tell me you live on the western shore. I live in Maryland, but on the eastern shore. I sure hope there are no big cats around here.
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02/29/08, 12:59 AM
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Last week, in Lovettsville, VA, which touches Maryland on the North and Hapers Ferry, WV is a few miles west, a man was going to the bank when he saw one in the field next to the bank. He went into the bank and got 2 employees to walk over to the cat with him. When the cat crouched down in the grass and began twitching it's tail at him, the man decided he needed to return to the bank and continue on with his errands. 
This was printed in our local paper yesterday. Lovettsville is in Loundon Co. Va.
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02/29/08, 06:51 AM
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I'm not saying that these pictures are not from WV, but if you look to the left of the guy in the first picture, there is a room in back with antlers, and on the bench it looks like a set of mule deer antlers. In the second picture, to the right it looks like there is an elk antler. Neverless, that is a big cat!
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