Help California Outlaw Confined Animal Feeding Operations

[ladycat]

Animals on factory farms are horribly abused and live their whole lives in misery and suffering. They are by far the greatest number of abused animals in our country. They are housed in cages, crates, or pens in which they can not turn around or lie down, often in their own manure. This is bad for the animals, but also bad for the environment, bad for the workers, and bad for the consumer. YOU CAN HELP!

The Humane Society of the US, along with other national and local groups, is supporting a ballot initiative in California to outlaw 3 of the cruelest confinement structures for chickens, pigs, and cows on factory farms.

We must gather 650,000 signatures from registered California voters by mid- February. We need volunteers to help with signature gathering, office work, etc. Please turn your compassion into action; use your power to change conditions for these animals now!

Please call 415 772 0952
Email: nora@humanecalifornia.org
Visit: http://humanecalifornia.org/volunteer/index.php

[ksfarmer]

Sounds like PETA baloney to me. I want to see what you refer to as the "3 of the cruelest confinement structures for chickens, pigs, and cows on factory farms.
"

[ladycat]

Originally Posted by ksfarmer

Sounds like PETA baloney to me. I want to see what you refer to as the "3 of the cruelest confinement structures for chickens, pigs, and cows on factory farms. "

Battery cages for hens, gestation crates for sows, stalls for dairy cows.

Arizona and Florida have made progress banning these practices. I want to see it keep rolling.

I most definitely do not.

I don't like those operations either, but banning them by legislative fiat is a mistake of the first order. It only serves to encourage the animal rights wackos who will then move on to other targets until they eventually get around to us.

Banning swine crates absolutely should never have been added to the constitution of the state of Florida.

.....Alan.

[Laura]

Originally Posted by ladycat

Battery cages for hens, gestation crates for sows, stalls for dairy cows.

Arizona and Florida have made progress banning these practices. I want to see it keep rolling.

Your advocacy for marxist government intrusion into private farming practices is in direct opposition to claiming your support for Ron Paul for president.

[bjba]

The Humane Society of the US is an animal "rights" organization. Its' leaders are vegan and promote a vegan lifestyle for all Americans.
What are "the 3 of the cruelest confinement structures for chickens, pigs, and cows on factory farms"?
This proposal reeks of the "oh please help, we'll make you feel sooooo good about yourself, even if you don't know what you are promoting."
You know ole P.T. Barnum was wrong there are lots and lots of suckers born every minute.

[ksfarmer]

Originally Posted by A.T. Hagan

I most definitely do not.

I don't like those operations either, but banning them by legislative fiat is a mistake of the first order. It only serves to encourage the animal rights wackos who will then move on to other targets until they eventually get around to us.

Banning swine crates absolutely should never have been added to the constitution of the state of Florida.

.....Alan.

Amen

[bjba]

What are "Battery cages for hens, gestation crates for sows, stalls for dairy cows?

[Alice In TX/MO]

Stalls for dairy cows? You have GOT to be joking. I've seen quite a few dairy farms. Nary a stall.

PETA strikes again.

Vote for Ron Paul.

[ladycat]

Originally Posted by Laura

Your advocacy for marxist government intrusion into private farming practices is in direct opposition to claiming your support for Ron Paul for president.

This is at the state level, not federal.

[ladycat]

Originally Posted by Rose

Stalls for dairy cows? You have GOT to be joking. I've seen quite a few dairy farms. Nary a stall.

PETA strikes again.

Vote for Ron Paul.

Most of the dairy cows in California are in confinement operations.

[glenn amolenaar]

You say this is at the state level. Then you will see them pushing to it into other state laws. BAD idea !!!!! Glenn

[Laura]

Originally Posted by ladycat

This is at the state level, not federal.

Then it's okay as long as it's a state you don't live in?

[ladycat]

Originally Posted by Laura

Then it's okay as long as it's a state you don't live in?

I would dearly love it if they would outlaw them here too.

[DaleK]

Stalls for dairy cows? You want to go after tiestalls, if this moves on, you're targeting the vast majority of the smallest family dairy farms in North America, particularly those in northern areas. Nobody else uses tiestalls, the big operations certainly don't. As for freestalls, they're much more prevalent in larger herds.... also much less restrictive to the animals than the tiestalls used in smaller herds. Pretty obvious why PETA and others targetted Florida and Arizona for crates, neither one has much of a pork or poultry industry so they got some easy victories to use as propaganda.

[bjba]

Take a look at the endorsements section. A list of animal rights wackos if I ever saw one.
Those nuts want a vegan world, if you don't oppose them at every turn.

[Gercarson]

Originally Posted by DaleK

Stalls for dairy cows? You want to go after tiestalls, if this moves on, you're targeting the vast majority of the smallest family dairy farms in North America, particularly those in northern areas. Nobody else uses tiestalls, the big operations certainly don't. As for freestalls, they're much more prevalent in larger herds.... also much less restrictive to the animals than the tiestalls used in smaller herds. Pretty obvious why PETA and others targetted Florida and Arizona for crates, neither one has much of a pork or poultry industry so they got some easy victories to use as propaganda.

I think this is in referrence to the "veal" pens where calfs are confined to their "stall" and are not able to move - so as to not exercise their muscles.
PETA - would also like to ban fishing and I have heard them advocate that. This is a group who will soon start saying that plants have feelings. Be careful.

[bill not in oh]

Sorry, I dislike the practice of confinement raised animals as much as any of the "nest persons". This type of effort should have been pressed forward when there was enough dirt left to do otherwise - and enough people willing to raise those animals under other conditions to meet the market demands of the society that demands it. Convince me that there's enough land in North America to raise even one third of the current meat protein demands of the existing population let alone the population 20 years from now on grass pastures or any other method that you can come up with and I'll sign the freaking petition. It's simply too late. We are not going to convert malls and rural subdivisions where people mow their 5 acre lawns back into pasture land to properly raise chickens, pigs and cattle.

[ladycat]

Originally Posted by DaleK

Stalls for dairy cows?

I wouldn't call dairies like Aurora "small".

[HazyDay]

I would just like to see small family farms again, where you can sell your RAW milk, egg, meat,etc. and not have the government chasing you down for that!

I for one AM ALL for treating animals good, but to kill off tie stalls is NUTS! But I would like to see Chicken cages ALL GONE!