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11/08/07, 09:58 PM
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What is it about teenage guys and their fathers?????
I grounded DS tonight becuase he did not bring home his spelling words, and the test is tomorrow. He was grounded earlier this week for not bringing his work home, also. I grounded him that time, too.
Now, *I* grounded him, but it was his FATHER that he called a meanie, he said his FATHER made everybody miserable, that it was his FATHER.....Etc.
But I was the one who grounded him.
I have no question, just ...GUYS! Who can figure them out??????? 
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11/08/07, 10:13 PM
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As the mother of 4 young-men-folk I feel your pain!!!!! But have no wisdom to offer you. My boys seem to be on a "Dad is evil" trend right now too.
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11/08/07, 10:18 PM
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hmmmmmmmmm I am always the evil one here...dad is the buddy...ugh..
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11/09/07, 12:07 AM
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If you grounded him earlier in the week and it didn't work, why did you ground him again?
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11/09/07, 04:57 AM
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How old is your son, 11? they cant remember anything at that age. Maybe a reminder of some sort would help. I dont know WHY hes mad at his dad....That one puzzles me....
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11/09/07, 06:04 AM
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It is an earlier version of how teenage DD's can't tolerate their mothers. The boys are pulling away from their fathers and attempting to find their own identity.
This too shall pass.......
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11/09/07, 06:12 AM
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It's pup rebellion against the Alpha wolf. Every pup has a deep-seated urge to overthrow the leader of the pack.
I keep the problem at bay with a quick nip and by picking my son up by the nape of the neck and putting him somewhere out of the way.
It's fairly easy now, as he is only six. I'm sure that, as time goes on, my jaws will grow weary.
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11/09/07, 07:12 AM
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He is 13.
I actually EXPECTED this stage, but that does not make it any easier. He thinks he knows it all, and he is CLUELESS!!!!!!!!!
DocM, don't your kids ever need being told a second time?
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11/09/07, 07:22 AM
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Oggie nailed it.
He's growing up and to him, growing up means becoming the man of the house, and that means usurping the power of the current king.
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11/09/07, 07:49 AM
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Ds 7
Fortunately is on a "dad" is good, no matter what and mom -well, she's a girl, what can you expect. If we are discussing our school work, he will check with Dad to see if Mom was right.....ARG!
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11/09/07, 08:01 AM
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Well just try it with a STEP-DAD!!! That one is interesting!
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11/09/07, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Terri
He is 13.
I actually EXPECTED this stage, but that does not make it any easier. He thinks he knows it all, and he is CLUELESS!!!!!!!!!
DocM, don't your kids ever need being told a second time?
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Being told a second time to do the same chore is one thing, like being told twice to pick something up... and generally, if I have to tell them a second time, they've also earned another chore. However, if I had to discipline for the same thing twice in a week (not bringing home homework), the punishments would certainly be more severe for the second offense. Grounding when you live in the country is sort of useless, because at that age, they were stuck at home anyway, and grounding often punishes the parent, not the child. I prefer labor. At that age, for my boys, pushups were excellent. You can always add more, they're instantly felt, and remembered well.
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11/09/07, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Oggie
It's pup rebellion against the Alpha wolf. Every pup has a deep-seated urge to overthrow the leader of the pack..
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ITS THE RUT !  yep it comes around every year about now. 
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11/09/07, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by fantasymaker
ITS THE RUT ! yep it comes around every year about now.
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LOL!
My dear friend Lynn's mom used to say, "Those boys need a haircut!" when they started in with their snarkiness. Since Lynn and I often found her mom to be right, we took our boys for haircuts.
Don't know why it worked, but it did. 
It's either that or feed 'em salt peter and graham crackers. 
Pony!
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11/09/07, 08:28 AM
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Remarks like this about a parent from a child toward a parent or step parent;
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Now, *I* grounded him, but it was his FATHER that he called a meanie, he said his FATHER made everybody miserable, that it was his FATHER.....Etc.
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My boys seem to be on a "Dad is evil" trend right now too.
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Or intent being made known like this from a child toward a parent or step parent is disrespectful and should never be allowed to be said without correction and punishment.
No matter how old the child is ! ! !
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11/09/07, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bumpus
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Remarks like this about a parent from a child toward a parent or step parent;
Or intent being made known like this from a child toward a parent or step parent is disrespectful and should never be allowed to be said without correction and punishment.
No matter how old the child is ! ! !
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My boys do not say dad is evil... those were my words bout their attitudes of the moment.. as in.. "Dads to blame"
Don't get too bent out of shape.... remember us? we are the same family who last year were scolded by many on here for being TOO strict after the TV show aired! lol
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11/09/07, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by TxCloverAngel
My boys do not say dad is evil... those were my words bout their attitudes of the moment.. as in.. "Dads to blame"
Don't get too bent out of shape.... remember us? we are the same family who last year were scolded by many on here for being TOO strict after the TV show aired! lol
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Don't remember the TV show.
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11/09/07, 08:51 AM
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we were the HT family on Wife Swap..
we were the ones that were Too strict and didn't let our kids get away with anything etc etc etc..... lol yup.. that's us
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11/09/07, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TxCloverAngel
we were the HT family on Wife Swap..
we were the ones that were Too strict and didn't let our kids get away with anything etc etc etc..... lol yup.. that's us
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I say good for you TxCloverAngel.
They would not want me on that show 
I would not let some of those wild animals in my house.
Some of the things those kids do would be stopped,
before they even came through the front door.
One part is I would not want my kids around parents like many I have seen on that TV show.
I don't waste my time with such junky programs, or with parents like that.
The problem is with the parents not the kids ! ! !
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11/09/07, 08:13 PM
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Its kind of like 2 bulls in a pasture .....
I raised 2 boys/men of my own and 2 stepsons, we had our sparing sessions. When they were young, especially teenagers, we locked horns a lot! I kept on being the rock, tough, well grounded and always faithful. I loved them without measure, but no meant no.
My oldest is 24, married with a baby of his own. We are closer now than we have ever been. I talk with him daily. He asks my advice, asks for guidance and walks away tall knowing that he is the lord of his pasture, made wiser by checking with the old bull now and then.
My youngest isi 21. He too is making his way in the world and like his older brother, sticks pretty close to dad.
I let them be their own person. Letting go was the hardest thing I had to do, but it was worth it. I am here for them always. I let them make their own mistakes and help sort things out when asked. I don't know that it is text book perfect, but it sure worked for this family.
I am very proud of my sons. I had a little practice caused I raised my step-sons 10 years before I had teenagers of my own. My stepsons too are great,caring ,loving tough men. I don't brag .... I thank God for his blessings and guidance and give him the glory.
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