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03/20/07, 07:21 PM
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What is with this trend?
It seems that older females are starting to use their maiden name or the previous married last name more often as their commonly understood identity. I have seen this twice here, in this neighborhood.
Maybe the feminist identity is finally surfacing, who knows? This was reserved to 6th grade boys in my past, older women would have never displayed this. Is this the trend in publications? Where do these identity thought come from?
Got a 5 gallon bucket of fire ants for me to dump on my fire ants, there seem to be a parallelness.
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03/20/07, 07:27 PM
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Huh?!?! What on earth are you talking about?
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03/20/07, 07:31 PM
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When we were posted to Germany, I worked with several Quebecois women. In Quebec women keep their maiden names, and their children have hyphenated names. Hard to find someone you know in the phone book if you don't know their husband's name. Also, this was back in the late 80's. I've often wondered what is happening to the second and third generations of this when Miss Beauchamp-Savard marries Mr. Dugas-Beauchemin, and then their child young Sylvie Beauchamp-Savard-Dugas-Beauchemin marries Paul Deschene-Poitras-Lavescque-Simard, and then they marry ....well you get the picture. Total three generation genealogy in one very awkward and heavily hypenated last name!!
I lived away from my home community for about 15 years. Now when I encounter someone I may have know from school, I tell them my married name, but then give them my maiden name to jog the memory.
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03/20/07, 07:47 PM
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In this neighborhood there are two female persons, one is Logan, the other one is Norton; not common female names - that is the trend I am speaking about. Their both in their 70's. Seeking understanding here.
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03/20/07, 08:38 PM
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I have kept my 'maiden' name or 'parents' name although I am married.
My name was the first gift my parents gave me ~ I have yet to think of a good reason to give it up. 
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03/20/07, 08:56 PM
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Did you know that taking your husband's name is custom and tradition but the only legal name a woman has is her given name?
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03/20/07, 09:05 PM
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I use my maiden name as my middle name now.
My second DIL is refusing to have her credit cards and driver's license in her married name. It has caused both personal and legal problems.
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03/20/07, 10:06 PM
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I'm more interested in the ants. How do you get them to say in the bucket long enough to fill it? And are you trying to get the bucket ants to wipe out your neighborhood ants?
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03/20/07, 10:16 PM
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I would guess they're just using the name they like best.
Sometimes it's done to preserve a sense of family unity. Other times it's just a matter of choosing the name that feels best to them, sort of like wearing a comfy pair of shoes. If I were to go back to my maiden name, it wouldn't feel right at all. That's not me anymore.
My SIL still uses her 1st married name, never did take the name of her 2nd husband.
A lot of women keep their maiden names for professional reasons - that's their "brand name," so to speak. This is especially prevalent among artists and writers.
I disagree with the statement that the only legal name a woman has is her given name, and the married name is just tradition -- my name was legally changed when I married and my SS card reflects this. Anybody can legally change his or her name to anything they want, traditional or otherwise.
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03/20/07, 10:43 PM
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It's Hillary...
Sheesh...can't you guys figure it out? It's a trend started by (Married Woman) Hillary Rodham.
The word is that when she's Prez, she'll be "President Rodham" so as not to confuse historians as they try to sort out her glorious legacy from that of President Clinton's.
These folks Moops is talking about are getting the jump on the trend...
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03/20/07, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by moopups
In this neighborhood there are two female persons, one is Logan, the other one is Norton; not common female names - that is the trend I am speaking about. Their both in their 70's. Seeking understanding here.
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Are you saying their first names are Logan and Norton? I know several little girls that have what I consider to be traditionally masculine names, but I don't know any ladies in their 70s who do.
Or are you talking about them keeping their own surnames instead of having taken their husband's? Again, I don't know any older women who have done that. I do know a few my age and younger who have done so.
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03/21/07, 06:26 AM
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My aunt switched back to her maiden name a few years ago. She had been through a few bad marriages and wanted to wash her hands of all the jerks. I know of other women who were married for many years and lost their first husbands and kept his name when they remarried because "I've used the other name most of my life". And there are women who marry later in life that don't want to go through the hassle of changing their name on all their legal documents and accounts.
It really shouldn't cause any problems legally if someone who is married doesn't want to change their surname. People who aren't married still can have joint bank accounts and the IRS even takes different last names into account on income tax forms.
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03/21/07, 06:36 AM
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The two names mentioned are their only name used to identify themselves, of course their complete names are not displayed, as would be in banking matters or similar.
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03/21/07, 07:59 AM
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Some women choose to keep the same last name that their children have been given. When I was growing up, my mom, my sister and I all had different last names. It was pretty strange....but would most likely be more common now.
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03/21/07, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by moopups
The two names mentioned are their only name used to identify themselves, of course their complete names are not displayed, as would be in banking matters or similar.
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Sounds to me that they are trying to protect their privacy.
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03/21/07, 08:33 AM
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My SIL is going back to her maiden name after getting out of a nasty marriage of 17 years. I don't blame her. I wouldn't want to be associated with that perverted jerk, either. It's just a matter of time before his sexual deviance gets him in trouble. When that happens she does NOT want to be knows at "the Mrs.".
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03/21/07, 08:59 AM
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OH -- I get it! You mean the name they use is their last name! Like you'd address some kid on the football field, "Hey, Smith! Get moving out there!" Is that what you mean?
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03/21/07, 09:04 AM
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Yes, it just seems odd for very mature women to be doing this, it was reserved for 6 grade boys in my past.
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03/21/07, 09:22 AM
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Aha! I guess it's kind of cute/humorous, makes them feel more youthful. But I guess it would be weird to be introduced to a lady at church that way!
If someone called me by my last name, I don't think I'd care for it. Sounds rather disrespectful. At least add *Mrs.*, you know? I'm not in the Army.
Another thought -- you ask if this is the trend in publications. Are you talking about the way they're referred to in print, say, in a newspaper article? In that case, yes, it is absolutely common and proper to use last names only, if their full name is mentioned previously. As in:
"Mary Smith is a teacher at Roosevelt Elementary. 'I teach 3rd grade,' says Smith."
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03/21/07, 09:24 AM
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Good grief, Boleyz, Hillary the Witch didn't start feminism or the last name movement. She's not Al Gore inventing the internet, ya know.
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