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7thswan 02/25/15 04:52 PM

Government take over
 
Of the internet tomorrow. Is it going to happen.

Harry Chickpea 02/25/15 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 7thswan (Post 7389802)
Of the interment tomorrow. Is it going to happen.

You mean like -
All of your graves are ours?

7thswan 02/25/15 04:59 PM

LOL, go figure I'd spell it wrong...

Johnny Dolittle 02/25/15 06:08 PM

Bad spellers will not be tolerated after tomorrow ....

.... didn't ya read the new 332 page rule book ?

:)

HDRider 02/25/15 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Dolittle (Post 7389890)
Bad spellers will not be tolerated after tomorrow ....

.... didn't ya read the new 332 page rule book ?

:)

No one outside the FCC has.

1shotwade 02/25/15 06:14 PM

It was the computer that spelled it wrong! Mine does that all the time!

Wade

Dixie Bee Acres 02/25/15 06:16 PM

Did anyone say, "under fcc regulations, if you like your current internet, you will be able to keep your current internet"?

Bellyman 02/25/15 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Dolittle (Post 7389890)
Bad spellers will not be tolerated after tomorrow ....

.... didn't ya read the new 332 page rule book ?

:)

You don't need to read it! Trust 'em. You're gonna love it!! (words I kinda recall hearing about ACA a while back)

I had a frightening thought... There is actually a "Mr. Nancy Pelosi".

Shiver me timbers!

Johnny Dolittle 02/25/15 06:54 PM

Spell check only indicates a misspelled word....

Free tip from me .... type the misspelled word into google and it will be corrected

otherwise you keep guessing till ya get it right.

Johnny Dolittle 02/25/15 06:59 PM

The internet is being hijacked by by the UN and turned over to Chinese regulators so to prevent people like me from spreading propaganda.:)

painterswife 02/25/15 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Dolittle (Post 7389963)
Spell check only indicates a misspelled word....

Free tip from me .... type the misspelled word into google and it will be corrected

otherwise you keep guessing till ya get it right.

Actually my tablet puts in it's own words and I often don't reread before hitting the post button.

arabian knight 02/25/15 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Dolittle (Post 7389963)
Spell check only indicates a misspelled word....

Not when it is on Auto Correct.
THAT is where many of us have problems.
It Corrects WHAT IT THINKS IS THE CORRECT WORD.
And if you don't catch it, the misinterpreted word is posted~!. So many spell checks are automatic now and corrects what it thinks is what you wanted to type. Sometimes the wrong word gets through if not caught on a prove read before posting. LOL

7thswan 02/25/15 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Wlover (Post 7389970)
Actually my tablet puts in it's own words and I often don't reread before hitting the post button.

Yes, when I used to use it and spelt " Rotties" it would correct to "kittens". Kinder, gentle lib internet for you.

Johnny Dolittle 02/25/15 09:17 PM

UN taking over internet ..... oh yes a possibility

http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/...owers-20150225

BlackFeather 02/25/15 09:25 PM

I'm going to watch the internet carefully and if it slows way down or it doesn't allow me to access the sites I want to, I may stop purchasing internet service. I pay $50 now and I think it's only worth about $30, so if it gets worse you may not see me anymore.

7thswan 02/26/15 07:09 AM

They want to control what is being said. They can't shut down talk radio (yet) and tv is pretty much already controled. The Net is letting the truth out too much for politics.

Oxankle 02/26/15 07:20 AM

Sorry kids: Was that vote not yesterday????

As for regulation--As I understand it, the FCC proposes to rule that internet providers may not block anyone, that no advertiser or ISP client can pay more to get better service than the next customer.

Firefox, the browser I use, wanted net neutrality. I trust Firefox more than I do Amazon or any other commercial giant.

willow_girl 02/26/15 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Wlover (Post 7389970)
Actually my tablet puts in it's own words and I often don't reread before hitting the post button.

Yes, Numb uses a tablet and it frequently makes him sound even more brain-damaged than he actually is. :pound:

Oxankle 02/26/15 07:32 AM

Sheesh; I had no trouble understanding the guy! I've seen much worse spelling here, and the goobermint ALREADY controls your disposal. There's way more interment law than internet law.

TenBusyBees 02/26/15 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Oxankle (Post 7390351)
Sorry kids: Was that vote not yesterday????

As for regulation--As I understand it, the FCC proposes to rule that internet providers may not block anyone, that no advertiser or ISP client can pay more to get better service than the next customer.

Firefox, the browser I use, wanted net neutrality. I trust Firefox more than I do Amazon or any other commercial giant.

What's the rationale behind that??? With Obamacare one can pay more to get better insurance coverage. Isn't that just naturally how things work? More money better service?

Johnny Dolittle 02/26/15 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Oxankle (Post 7390351)
Sorry kids: Was that vote not yesterday????

As for regulation--As I understand it, the FCC proposes to rule that internet providers may not block anyone, that no advertiser or ISP client can pay more to get better service than the next customer.

Firefox, the browser I use, wanted net neutrality. I trust Firefox more than I do Amazon or any other commercial giant.

Then why is this being done behind closed doors?

Why 332 pages of regulations?

hippygirl 02/26/15 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Dolittle (Post 7390387)
Then why is this being done behind closed doors?

Why 332 pages of regulations?

At least until the vote, that would be 332 pages of SECRET regulations...as in "you have to pass it to see what's in it". Yet another blow to Obama's "transparent" govt, yes?

I read the vote is today and is expected to pass, 3 - 2, dem - rep, respectively.

Just a side note...I had NO idea that the grand total of people that make up the FCC is only FIVE...I've never given them or what they do much thought, but, for some reason, I've always imagined there were at LEAST dozens and dozens of people whose job it is to...oversee...something as important as communications!

GrannyG 02/26/15 10:37 AM

Obamanet.......coming now......Lord help us.....

Johnny Dolittle 02/26/15 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by hippygirl (Post 7390545)
At least until the vote, that would be 332 pages of SECRET regulations...as in "you have to pass it to see what's in it". Yet another blow to Obama's "transparent" govt, yes?

I read the vote is today and is expected to pass, 3 - 2, dem - rep, respectively.

Just a side note...I had NO idea that the grand total of people that make up the FCC is only FIVE...I've never given them or what they do much thought, but, for some reason, I've always imagined there was at LEAST dozens and dozens of people whose job it is to...oversee...something as important as communications!

Yes .... unelected bureaucrats making our laws !!!!!!!

nothing new here!!!

7thswan 02/26/15 11:31 AM

Just heard-Obama wrote Ex.order to forbid sales of ar15 ammo.

arabian knight 02/26/15 12:30 PM

I don't care what ANY internet company or a company says they want this nonsense called Net Neutrality. It is FAR from being neutral FAR FAR from it. It is yet another Unfair practice of the government once again controlling things. THAT is not what the government was for, is for or was set up to be.
And now that is coming watch out for Fairness In Broadcasting. THAT is yet another big no no. And should never make it to the light of day, but now that this had made it watch out now for this airwaves fairness carp see the daylight.
And BOOM there goes most ALL talk Radio talk shows. ALL Except WHAT the government Wants YOU TO HEAR. Like Air America will likely make a comeback. And have No Way for others to snazzier to THEM. Arrrrgggg.

TenBusyBees 02/26/15 12:52 PM

Let the law suits begin. It passed exactly as predicted.

Oxankle 02/26/15 01:14 PM

Is this what you are belly aching about? What is wrong with it? Do you want some giant ISP delivering some mail faster than others because they get a bigger payoff? Would you like if Walmart could get faster telephone service than you?
================================================== ====

"After more than a year of heated public debate, the Federal Communications Commission on Thursday passed "net neutrality" rules: They allow the agency to prohibit Internet service providers from granting faster access to companies that pay for the privilege.

The new rules treat broadband providers as "common carriers" under Title II of the Telecommunications Act -- the same category as utility companies that provide gas, electricity, etc. -- in which all customers have equal access to service.

================================================== ======

I think this is common sense; common carriers are exactly what the ISP's are.

unregistered353870 02/26/15 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hippygirl (Post 7390545)
Just a side note...I had NO idea that the grand total of people that make up the FCC is only FIVE...I've never given them or what they do much thought, but, for some reason, I've always imagined there was at LEAST dozens and dozens of people whose job it is to...oversee...something as important as communications!

That's five commissioners. They have a couple thousand employees.

arabian knight 02/26/15 01:32 PM

Ah yes yet another liberal idea that everything has to be even and fair. Life is NOT fair OR Even.
But now in schools you can't play by the same rules as we did when we went to school SOME might get THEIR FEELINGS HURT. They are LAST in a race, and might feel bad. OH MY.
No more flunking out cause the child would feel bad. FEELINGS FEELINGS and Fairness. that is now the new in thing. Well that is pure stable floor sweepings.
Get that same person out in the work work, and NOW you see what is happening. We want this cause it is not FAIR.
We want more cause it is not fair. I want, I want this ands that, we want everything so everyone is Equal.
You have the Right To Pursue Happiness. Not have that happiness shoved down a person throat by The Government.

Nevada 02/26/15 01:48 PM

While the devil is probably in the details, and the details don't exist yet, this appears on the surface to be a good thing. Internet should be regulated as a public utility.

Oxankle 02/26/15 01:58 PM

For once Nevada and I agree on something!

where I want to 02/26/15 02:05 PM

Can anyone say "law suit?"

Wolf mom 02/26/15 02:10 PM

arabian knight: everything is fair in Obama's world only if it makes the wealthy more money or enhances his narrow community organizer mind.

This "we're doing it for your best interests" and 'we want to keep everything fair for everyone" is the biggest bunch of crock to come down the pike in forever.

Our only hope for America is that the next president has the tenacity to fight to rescind so many of these unconstitutional laws.

And NO Nevada, there is little reason for the internet to be regulated to the tune of over 300 pages. Once the government gets a toe hold in something, you can be sure it'll become over regulated by the little drones in our new internet department. Just look at what's happening with EPA, for one.

I went to school where I was thought to think and take care of myself - not have the government wrap me in cotton batting for life - "for my own good" 'cause I'm too dumb to take care of myself. And if I can't/don't & screw up - ya know what? That's on me.

arabian knight 02/26/15 02:14 PM

Remember this, and remember it well.

Today is the day the internet died.

Nevada 02/26/15 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by arabian knight (Post 7390822)
Remember this, and remember it well.

Today is the day the internet died.

I think you're over characterizing what this is about. This isn't about Internet content, and Internet content servers are not regulated by this at all. It only regulates Internet service providers as if it they were the public utility providers that they are.

You see, up until now phone service was regulated, but not network services. This just brings network services under the umbrella of public service utility regulation.

sidepasser 02/26/15 02:40 PM

Well since I am in telecom, I can tell you that I think it will end up being a good idea for the ISP. As a customer, I don't think it is a good idea. On the other hand, the government is going to be happier - just wait till all those new taxes show up on your internet bill - cause they are coming. Just have to figure out how much will be charged.

Regulation may end the tier system and the ISP will eliminate the "lower" rates and charge everyone a higher rate based on the presumption that faster speeds will be desired by all and no one can demand a lower speed. So one rate will apply for eveyone, it will be a higher rate..but it will be one rate. That is what people want right?

So in the long run, the customer is not going to be as happy as they thought they would be, but the ISP and the government will be - higher rates, one speed, and..more taxes. A win win for all and the customer got his "neutrality".

Don't think that those in the business have not considered all possible outcomes, sometimes it is best to let people think they have won.

Nevada 02/26/15 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sidepasser (Post 7390856)
Well since I am in telecom, I can tell you that I think it will end up being a good idea for the ISP. As a customer, I don't think it is a good idea.

Watch and learn; the ISPs will be the ones bringing suit against the FCC. They aren't going to like being regulated.

no really 02/26/15 02:48 PM

Just a question why is it that the new regulations not available to the public before it was passed?

Nevada 02/26/15 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by no really (Post 7390870)
Just a question why is it that the new regulations not available to the public before it was passed?

There aren't any new regulations yet. Regulations will be written during the next few months. All that's been decided so far is that internet service providers will be regulated as public utility providers. Anything beyond that is speculation at this point.


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