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Paumon 01/03/15 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by simi-steading (Post 7334593)
Soooooo...... you mean to tell me this picture of me and my bud would be illegal?

People wonder why I am always harping about this country turning into one big police state and why I keep saying WAKE UP????

It would not be illegal. Your objection in this instance is not even relevant. First of all, it isn't a big cat. Secondly, it belongs to you and since it's your personal possession you are the one personally responsible for whatever damage it does to you and for your disposition of the bird.

Beautiful bird. :thumb:

1shotwade 01/04/15 05:15 AM

This is not directed toward any individual or reply but I just wanted to bring this up.
If a person owns a dangerous animal,they are responsible for maintaining a certain level of security for that animal.Good strong cages to insure it does not escape and get in public where it becomes a danger to others and or their property(animales etc).Measured in that responsibility,is the implied responsibility of keeping the animal secure from the general public.If persons from the general public through what ever means makes contact with the animal,it is a breach of the animals owner.Whether the animal is at home in a cage or out in public on a leash the responsibility of keeping the animal and the public safe lies on the owner.(The law in general states that you must keep your property in a safe manner,EVEN FOR TRESPASSERS!) Any time there is a breach in this it is the fault of the owner.
Although I do not totally agree,this is how the law is written.That being said,the owner should have recourse through the law to prosecute intentional breaches to this level of security in the criminal court system.No new laws are required.Per usual,instead of charging the guilty,be it the owner or the trespasser,the lawmakers just took a broad brush and banned everyone from this contact instead of those who are actually guilty.They have public access to the pictures to identify the violators for God sake,punish the guilty,not the general population!

Wade

CraterCove 01/04/15 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Paumon (Post 7334711)
If some idiot dies because he wanted a picture with the pretty tiger, that's too bad, sad for him and for his loved ones. The thing about it that would make me sadder yet is that the tiger also will have to be killed for doing what comes naturally to it, the tiger's owners will suffer prosecution and financial losses as well as grief over the loss of their tiger that they shared with society, and the rest of society that appreciated the tiger in a responsible manner will also suffer the grief and loss of the tiger. All because of an idiot that wanted a picture with the pretty tiger. All of that means something to me.

As to slower drivers and loss of precious time - I would be more concerned about the driver who exceeds the speed limit because he can do more than take away time from you, he can do more than effect your mental health, he can take away your life. If your time lost is more precious to you than your life lost and the lives of your children in the car with you then I think you need to re-examine your priorities in life and also make some practical changes about how you manage your time and your anxieties. It wouldn't hurt for everyone to slow down.

As I said it's a case of removing frivolous law suits from the system, not stopping stupid people from being stupid (impossible).

And no, not following the traffic laws, in any direction causes 'accidents' and is unsafe. You are wrong.

ninny 01/04/15 07:24 AM

Wasn't it Einstein who said "there are limits to being a genius but not to being stupid" or something like that?

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coolrunnin 01/04/15 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CraterCove (Post 7334959)
As I said it's a case of removing frivolous law suits from the system, not stopping stupid people from being stupid (impossible).

And no, not following the traffic laws, in any direction causes 'accidents' and is unsafe. You are wrong.


Your wrong speed limits are just that, the fastest you can drive not the speed at which you must travel.

I regularly drive 55-62 for fuel savings and have 3million safe miles under my belt.

CraterCove 01/04/15 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by coolrunnin (Post 7335112)
Your wrong speed limits are just that, the fastest you can drive not the speed at which you must travel.

I regularly drive 55-62 for fuel savings and have 3million safe miles under my belt.

With 3 million miles under your belt it's a wonder you haven't come across those minimum speed signs or the rules of the road stating you must pull over and let cars pass if you insist upon traveling under the speed limit. Also, yes, you can be cited for driving too slowly.

The rules for driving are there to make sure things run smoothly with least incident. You are simply relieving yourself in the public pool when you break them in your arrogance.

ETA: Not all vehicles are tuned to get their best gas mileage between 55-62

1shotwade 01/04/15 10:42 AM

Actually the minimum speed on the interstate used to be 40 mph and yes you can be ticketed for impeding the flow of traffic!


Wade

arabian knight 01/04/15 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by coolrunnin (Post 7335112)
Your wrong speed limits are just that, the fastest you can drive not the speed at which you must travel.

I regularly drive 55-62 for fuel savings and have 3million safe miles under my belt.

I drive a tad faster but not by much. I set the cruise on 67 And I don't care if the speed limit is 65 or 75,, I go 67 Period End of story. And miles driven, I got around half that at around 1.5 million under my belt of safe driving.
And I get between 30 and 31 MPG on that '94 Buick Century. doing just that 67 period.~
Course when I had my horse in the back seat I drove a little slower and a WHOLE lot more defensively. LOL
Even driving on I-10 in AZ. 60 was IT~! With the horse in the back seat of my '67 Impala. LOL

coolrunnin 01/04/15 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CraterCove (Post 7335128)
With 3 million miles under your belt it's a wonder you haven't come across those minimum speed signs or the rules of the road stating you must pull over and let cars pass if you insist upon traveling under the speed limit. Also, yes, you can be cited for driving too slowly.

The rules for driving are there to make sure things run smoothly with least incident. You are simply relieving yourself in the public pool when you break them in your arrogance.

ETA: Not all vehicles are tuned to get their best gas mileage between 55-62

Yup interstates usually 45 well below what I run, 2 lane rural typically don't have minimums because of ag equipment. And how do you explain split speed limits!

Your right not all are tuned (whatever that means) mines a class 8 truck and that speed gives me the best wind resistance to efficiency getting load to receiver on time.


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