
09/22/14, 02:49 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: True Northern California
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Originally Posted by greg273
Maybe they could claim it violates their religious beliefs, perhaps then you'd support it. Or if they said 'Etsy will no longer do business with the LGBT community'. Seems that idea goes over pretty well among the evangelical conservatives on this site.
As to it being 'like AT&T not carrying calls to the Redskins headquarters', I don't recall AT&T spelling out a clear policy of not offering merchandise that goes against their values like Etsy did. Sorry if you didn't read their terms and conditions, but they are pretty clear about what they will allow to be listed.
And you SELLING on Etsy is actually YOU PARTAKING OF ETSYS MERCHANDISE. Their 'merchandise' being their service of listing your item. If you support a bakers 'right' to refuse service to certain people, then you should be all for this. Personally, I don't care either way. I have no desire to buy any Redskins junk on Etsy, although I don't find the name offensive anyway. Stealing their land was about the ultimate offense, calling a team 'redskin' is pretty mild stuff compared to the evil already visited on the native Americans.
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I actually do think they have a right to do so as long as they are not such a large part of the market place that they strangle the ability to sell somewhere else. But then I thought that the bakery had the right to refuse to produce a product they objected to. In fact, since it was direct personal labor rather than offering a marketplace, they had more right. Basically same philosophy of individual rights to choose how to use their labor. The market resolves poor choices by itself without my help. But, having offered a market place, Etsy has to get pretty petty to pick and choose as they do. Which is the complaint by conservatives, rather than what you chose to read into it.
But conversely, for all your noise about inconsistant values amoung conservatives, it is conflicting to say that Etsy does have the right to make value judgements but the aforementioned bakery does not. It makes it clear that your determination comes from your personal view of political correctness rather that the principle involved.
BTW since you are in receipt of property you allege is stolen, when are you planning to return it, however much you have, to the local indian tribe?
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