roundup is bad for your guts

haypoint · #21 09/18/14, 10:12 AM

The unknowing are always going to be misled by such nonsense. Those that have taken the time to truly research and get an understanding of the science will see through it most times. Some saw the mention of wheat as a clue the story was cockeyed. When I saw that it was wrongly presumed that Glyphosate was in our food, I knew it was time to call "BS".
Glyphosate is effective in small concentrations. Glyphosate has a low level toxicity. But my favorite part is that it breaks down quickly, into harmless elements. It isn't going to show up in our food.
Glyphosate replaces the toxic, long lasting, leachable herbicides previously used.
Using the bogus rat tumor study is another red flag.
I don't recommend you drink glyphosate. Unless you are a careless farmer, you won't get any on you. It is seldom, if ever, found in food or water.

I wish www.snopes.com had the time and expertise to dispel myths like the Roundup is evil garbage on various internet sites.

unregistered358967 · #22 09/18/14, 10:35 AM

nevermind. Let's just say "Give me spots on my apples, but leave me the birds and the bees..."

MoonShadows · #23 09/18/14, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by arabian knight

But how lONG will THAT last? I spray Roundup around fence lines etc. and it take over two YEARS before I have to treat some places. I Love it. LOL

Lasts the whole season.

MoonShadows · #24 09/18/14, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mrs whodunit

Yep. And the very next week new leaves are pushing up and growing very healthy.

Nope...lasts the whole season...kills down to the route...just like RoundUp...and, a lot cheaper, too.

Jim

MoonShadows · #25 09/18/14, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Yvonne's hubby

I have a feeling that cost effectiveness would be a problem if you were trying to control weeds on a thousand acres of corn or soybeans with vinegar... and it may even kill your crops. Roundup does have the advantage of being efficient as well as selective.

Sorry, but RoundUp will kill anything you spray it on, as will vinegar.

watcher · #26 09/18/14, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by arabian knight

But how lONG will THAT last? I spray Roundup around fence lines etc. and it take over two YEARS before I have to treat some places. I Love it. LOL

I guess we could go back to doing what we did when I was young. You use your used motor oil. Not only is it a good weed killer pouring along the foundation of your out buildings and on the base of wood post would make them last a lot longer.

Yvonne's hubby · #27 09/18/14, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MoonShadows

Nope...lasts the whole season...kills down to the route...just like RoundUp...and, a lot cheaper, too.

Jim

I am not so sure as to the cost of vinegar compared to roundup.... what do you think it would cost to spray with vinegar.... say a ten acre patch?

Yvonne's hubby · #28 09/18/14, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MoonShadows

Sorry, but RoundUp will kill anything you spray it on, as will vinegar.

That would be why it didnt kill the GMO wheat on that farm in Oregon that created all the fuss last year?

haley1 · #29 09/18/14, 12:30 PM

the stuff is found in rain and breast milk

I have heard people say " it's so safe you could drink it" but never heard of anyone giving it at try

MoonShadows · #30 09/18/14, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Yvonne's hubby

I am not so sure as to the cost of vinegar compared to roundup.... what do you think it would cost to spray with vinegar.... say a ten acre patch?

Don't know...never had to spray that much.

whistler · #31 09/18/14, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by haley1

the stuff is found in rain and breast milk

If it's found in rain wouldn't all the non-GMO plants be dying?

Molly Mckee · #32 09/18/14, 02:16 PM

Vinegar is not a reasonable replacement for roundup. Roundup is inert in about 4 hours, when applied correctly.

If you think it is bad to use roundup and good to replace it with motor oil, you might want to check and see which is worse for the environment. Most of the problems with chemicals are due to city dwellers and suburban homeowners, not farmers.
Farmers are trying to make a living and don't overuse chemicals that will simply waste money.

PrettyPaisley · #33 09/18/14, 03:24 PM

Snopes ?

That speaks volumes.

PrettyPaisley · #34 09/18/14, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by whistler

If it's found in rain wouldn't all the non-GMO plants be dying?

It's a slow kill. Kind of like the babies drinking the breast milk. Read up on cancer rates in kids lately? Seen any recent info on the decline of pollinators ?

Yes - there is an ignore button. It works semi-okay but he's hardly one to bother with.

haypoint · #35 09/18/14, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jax-mom

nevermind. Let's just say "Give me spots on my apples, but leave me the birds and the bees..."

Are you confusing insecticides with herbicides? There is a difference, don't ya know?
If we are still discussing Glyphosate, give me a credible source where Glyphosate killed birds or bees or any other animal. BTW Pigweed and lambs quarters are not animals.

haypoint · #36 09/18/14, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RWeThereYet

And yet another fat lazy American who relies on a techo-fix.

Is there a ignore button?

Please review the web links you provided. In the third web link you posted, http://farmandranchfreedom.org/gmo-s...hosate-levels/
take a look at Figure 2. It lists a couple dozen nutrients found in soybeans and compares amounts between GMO, conventional and organic. Any nutritional scientist knows there are variations within a sample. Read it. GMO tops the other two in many categories. Your "proof" proves you wrong. You don't read and comprehend beyond the headlines and yet you want to call someone else fat and lazy?

DaleK · #37 09/18/14, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by haley1

the stuff is found in rain and breast milk

I have heard people say " it's so safe you could drink it" but never heard of anyone giving it at try

Tell you what - we'll sit down and go shot for shot, you drinking vinegar and me drinking Roundup. I'll stop drinking when you're dead.

haypoint · #38 09/18/14, 04:50 PM

But vinegar sounds so common, household-like. Doesn't sound like something evil like frankenfood or zombie wheat. But does anyone bother to research what it is?

Vinegar is a liquid consisting mainly of acetic acid (CH3COOH) and water. The acetic acid is produced by the fermentation of ethanol

So you get this chain of chemicals in an acid form and it kills all plants. Comes from ethanol alcohol. Does it persist in the environment? Does it leach into the groundwater?

Salt is safe and a salt brine will kill weeds. You want to spread it on your fields?

arabian knight · #39 09/18/14, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by watcher

I guess we could go back to doing what we did when I was young. You use your used motor oil. Not only is it a good weed killer pouring along the foundation of your out buildings and on the base of wood post would make them last a lot longer.

I have done that for years, and still do spread used oil on boards to keep horses from chewing the barn down.
And a few years ago when I was working part time at a horse boarding stable in Tempe, AZ, I did that all the time to keep horses from chewing the old dried out wood down. Works great and does work like a preservative at the same time. LOL

farmerDale · #40 09/18/14, 05:49 PM

Those anti everything that is a chemical, unless it is the chemical vinegar, I have a question.

Pretend you have a quarter section of wheat. That is a tiny farm by todays standards, but for simplicity sake, bear with me. And if you are also against wheat, don't worry about it, substitute in oats.

Tell me how you would farm the 160 acres effectively. How would you maintain fertility? How would you keep the weeds from stealing 40-60% of your yield? How would you keep the soil healthy, the soil fertile, and increasing in organic matter?

Now multiply that acreage by oh, around 10, which is closer to the average sized grain farm now a days.

How are you gunna do it? I am all ears. Sadly, I believe most on here have absolutely no clue about how to grow grain, which makes me all the more excited, and all the more curious as to the answers we will see here!

Let me guess: Tillage which destroys the soil? vinegar? Adding manure? Using legumes which add but one nutrient?

So, what is the answer? Don't be shy, this farmer would love to know how we should be doing it, because we obviously have no clue!!! lol!