"Redskins" is the new N-word
 

Over the top, PC madness, is destroying this country. Example:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-w...dskins-Warning

How ridiculous.

So how am I supposed to get my favorite potato salad now?????
It was a long time in the making. There have been fights about the term "redskins" for as long as I can remember. Stupid, IMO.

The Saints will probably next !:grit:

At this point, I would be darned if I would change the name!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, I thnk the point of the blogger is valid- that the emotional response of many liberals is on whether they feel it is politically acceptable to spew hate or not at a particular person or group. Not whether spewing hate itself is wrong. I'm constantly amazed at the hate spewing by liberals purporting to be "progressive" being considered a good thing as long as it's directed aggreeably to the spewer.
However, it is long past time for the Redskins to move out of the 19th century. It is a reasonable request to have a bit more respect than that shows. The government over stepped their authority on pretentious rationalization out of their current arrogance. It was not their place. But that does not mean the Redskins should have anyone's sympathy.

I will say it is long past time for the Redskins to change their name. Native Americans have asked them to do it, they even started an ad campaign to raise awareness.

I am sure this will be another fascinating discussion with a bunch of white people on here trying to explain why a minority is wrong and bad and ruining all of their fun. Seems to be all too common on this forum sadly.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11...-ad-nba-finals

Why was this not pushed when the name was being considered? Why now all of a sudden?
Why was this not thought of by the offended in 1932?

Why shouldn't we? We already have white people thinking they speak for all of the indians.

A stat I heard yesterday was that 80%-90% of the indians in this country think the name is fine. The ones who are against the name and want it changed are the minority in their communities. Most of them realize the name was derived in order to honor someone who played a major role early on in the Redskins organization.

Yet again, we are being forced to cater to the opinions and feelings of a small minority all in the name of political correctness. This is an infringement of property rights by the government and people had better tread very carefully or it could be them who is one day infringed upon. There are many companies out there whose name or logo could offend someone and if we are not careful, we will soon be travelling down the road of having a government who makes all of our decisions for us.

Public opinion and ticket sales should be what determines a name change in this instance, not the government.



Tex

Read this http://www.historytoday.com/andrew-b...ral-government

And being 2014 and STILL getting this much blow back on this issue, what makes you think anyone asked, much less cared, what Native Americans thought about it back in 1932? And had they asked, I'm sure they cared about much more immediate concerns, like keeping more of their land from disappearing or raising their children the way they saw fit, not the way US government thought they should be raised.

This PC stuff has got to STOP.
But it is ONLY the Name Redskins that has been stopped from being under the offices of the patent police.
Everything else is intact. And with appeals and all it will be Years before this carp takes a hold. This is getting so far out of hand it boarders on the insane workings of the federal government. It is NOT offensive only to those that have such a thin skin they can't see the over all picture at what harm this is going to set in precedent. NOTHING will be safe from now on. If something offends just ONE person in this country it will be heck to pay. THAT is not America.

I fully agree. I am totally offended by the NY Yankee's. Yankee is such a racist term used against hard working white guys. That goes for the NY Mets too. My mother was a Met.

How to win friends and influence people. For one thing, it takes a lot of assuming to make that remark. Second- having chosen that white people are anacceptable target, you speak without any respect, which is of course the same issue that is part of any point you are making about this.

I don't think racial epithets are acceptible but that does not mean I think the Patent Office had any right to do what they did. And I think the point of the linked blogger is spot on. So with your assumptions, am I a tiresome racist who should not be permitted to write on a forum?

I heard theres a group trying to ban the Packers ?

Not likely anytime soon. Like global warming and liberalism, it is a religion to many who worship the creature and creation rather than the sovereign creator.

Want to see an odd coincidence?

There's a city in southwestern Kansas called Liberal (politically, it's pretty darned Republican).

The Liberal High School mascot is the Redskins.

So, the girls' basketball teams and softball teams are called the Liberal Lady Redskins.

Someone took this picture of the high school bus.

http://cdn.bloguin.com/wp-content/up...s-team-bus.jpg

Thank you that was a much kinder response than I was coming up with. :)

You must have missed a lot of threads on here lately to not be able to foresee where this thread will go.

I can't see that happening in Wisconsin!

So the Christian response is to be offensive then rather than polite (PC)? I would assume the Creator who said “So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets." would think a little differently?

But if you keep running at something, you might eventually get through. And every time, even if some others are the same, I've adjusted a bit. It's the adjusting bit that makes it exciting.

Are you white?

No, wrong, from everything I have read/heard, there is NOT any consensus among the nations of native people about this. Some don't find it offensive, some don't care, but others are bothered by it.

This is something we have dealt with in Kansas City, with the Chiefs. Some group from out of town came in and held a news conference, they were offended by a mascot in native regalia riding a horse up and down the sidelines, the audience doing the "tomahawk chop" and so forth. But then some tribal leaders from a different Indian nation were interviewed who said they didn't mind, saw it as a form of flattery.

Personally I think it is a vocal minority of the native people, the ones with a hyperactive "activist gene" who are making all the fuss. The squeaky wheels, always looking for attention, there are some of them in every ethnic group. Then the politicians jump on their bandwagon, using the cause for their advantage, and here we are.

Sticks and stones........

Or how about Nabisco Saltine CRACKERS
How soon will this idiotic stuff stop in this country?

As soon as people stop acting like insensitive idiots and not a moment earlier, I hope.

My opinion is this is a free country the guy can name his team what he likes and if we don't like it we don't buy tickets or stuff with his logo on it.
End of story.

It's a double edged sword. There is room for improvement in understanding (can't bring myself to say "sensitivity" in this context), that is true. There is also a need for a lot more "big boy/big girl" pants for some people whose purpose in life seems to be looking for a reason to be offended. If both sides come towards the middle just a little, problem solved.

Might as well rename some other teams while they're at it. Namely, the Braves, the Chiefs, the Indians, the Seminoles, and the Blackhawks. A local high school in Texas have the Apaches. And of course the Comanchees. Maybe all references and names for Indians should be changed. Lessee - Cherokee Village in Arkansas for one. I'm sure there are more. I'm also sure the Browns name will probably offend someone somewhere with brown skin too.

Where will it end?

I probably have more Native American blood in me than most, coming from both sides of my family. This whole thing is silly.

Also, clearly there is obviously a difference per your title.

One you typed out. The other one you didn't.

Both are derogatory. There are some of each group that find it offensive and some that couldn't care any less.

I think a subtle difference is that some people associate Redskin as a slur. The names you cited aren't normally considered a slur.

Having said that, Daniel Snyder owns the team, up to him and if people don't want to support him. Don't buy his merchandise.

Have you seen some of their mascots? I don't consider "Brave" to be a mascot, yet there has been a stink about them and their tomahawk chop on and off for years. I think, that Native Americans tend to get offended more than other minority groups as a whole.

I have seen the mascots and emblems. I remember Chief Knock A Homa from Atlanta Braves games.

Now from my perspective as a white male who is a bit pc, the only one I can really think of who could be considered offensive is "Chief Wahoo" emblem of the Cleveland Indians.

And I find the tomahwawk chop extremely offensive because it is so darn annoying. More than 10 seconds of it and I have to turn off volume.

For crying out loud. Naming a football team after them is probably the least offensive thing done to Native Americans in this country. IMHO it is pretty far down on the list after stealing their land, disarmament, genocide, and forced relocation.
Which are all good reminders of why we should not trust any government.
History.

Pubic Control it is not correct just censorship. It is carp.

Maybe when the conservatives take over the govt again they will think that the group and term "Planned Parenthood" has a bad conotation too. Maybe they will take away all of their rights too with the sweep of a pen or a simple rule change. They are opening a big can of worms with this Redskins deal!

The team was named for their first coach. A NI.
My Dh is NI, being called a "redskin" does not bother him a bit. Actualy it's good that they are being remembered, their skin color covers every Tribe. His skin turns very red working/being outside, and it isn't a burn. The Federal goverment should not be throwing their weight arround at the patent office, Epa, Irs.....

We had a long discussion about this at Church today. Seems it is a matter of a few hollering the loudest and majority being good and not saying a word. :shrug:

big rockpile

In today's world, if you said, so-and-so is a redskin, the most likely response would be, What position does he play?

The term redskin has become associated with the team. I don't think I ever heard that term used to refer to an individual my whole life. Most people take the convenience of saying "Indian" rather than "Native American" when referring to the ethnic group, with no intention of being derogatory.

And those senators who supposedly sent letters to the team? They should be recalled! Using their elected positions to try and influence (bully) a private citizen in the running of their business? That is an ethics violation I do believe.

This is just a symptom of the main problem. Some people in this country think that they can tell other people how to act, think, and feel. Even if they are a minority.