Second grade student says teacher took away her Bible during rea

We lived in the town north of Cypress, TX (Tomball) for 12 years. Let me say that in that area of Texas, just west of Houston, now mostly suburbia, almost everyone belongs to a church. If they don't, they belong to a synagog or another religious organization. I would guess that less than 1% of the population is unchurched. So chances are, the teacher also goes to church, synagog, or mosque.

I would guess that either the Bible was not the right level reading for the student or it was not on the list of books the kids could choose from. The only other reason might be that the kid showed up with what appeared to be a very expensive book and the teacher took it to be sure nothing happened to the book in the classroom.

As others have said, the fact that the parents went to a special interest group and the news, without talking to the teacher or principle, means to me that they were looking for a fight or a cash settlement. I don't believe they were concerned about the child, they probably had her take the bible to school to make a point that had little to do with reading.

What I find interesting is there is, that I can find anyway, no update to this.
What was the outcome? What really happened?

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Check the link in post #108

School investigated and cannot confirm the event even occurred. They say the bible is permissible for free reading time.

They said it was "permissible when it was a "Just Right" book for the particular student". So if a child brought in a Bible leveled to his reading level, there would be no issues whatsoever. If indeed there ever was an issue.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/wwwfiles.li...oom=auto,0,605

Here is one way (and links to others) way that books and reading materials are leveled for beginning readers:

http://www.schrockguide.net/frys-readability-info.html

Interesting graphs. According to them, my son was reading 11th grade books in 3rd grade! And he doesn't even like to read! But hey, nobody told him he couldn't or shouldn't.

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That, too. Neither religion is kind to people like me. I can only hope to live long enough to see them relegated to the dustbins of history, at least here in my country.

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That comment right there speaks volumes! Wow!!! Talk about intolerant!

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not seeing intolerance. If something advocates dislike or violence against certain people why wouldn't those people yearn to see that thing go away eventually?

I'm not saying that people shouldn't be allowed to practice their religion ... this is a free country, after all. I simply hope that one day, the human race will progress to the point where we will voluntarily discard ancient superstitions, much in the way almost no one believes in Zeus or Athena anymore.

Wouldn't it be nice if people no longer embraced a holy book that tells them they should kill people for no greater crime than loving someone of the same gender? I think that would be a vast improvement. Your mileage may vary.

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Of course it is! That someone is yearning for the demise of others based solely on their personal beliefs cannot be seen as anything BUT intolerant! For you not to be able to see that is shameful.

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Where in the world are you seeing someone yearning for the demise of others? Good grief, talk about reading something totally different than what is actually there.

Utopia doesn't exist in a mortal world, never will. And yearning for the for folks to believe in only what YOU want them to believe in is totally intolerant.

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I am not wishing for the demise of the people themselves, but merely that they voluntary relinquish beliefs that I find repugnant and damaging to the progress of the human race. (There is plenty more to find in there that's objectionable besides the treatment of LGBTs.)

Let me see if I can phrase this in a way that Jeffrey will comprehend. I'm going to go out on a limb guess that he doesn't much care for Islam, and one reason is because it treats Christians as second-class citizens, and thus he would be happy to see Islam pass away (voluntarily and peacefully, of course). Am I correct?

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Your post. #129. "Yearn to see that thing go away"!

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You are NOT correct!

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Good grief. It was in reference to Willow's post and THAT was in reference to religions. Not people...religions. No one was hoping for anyone's death. I QUITE CLEARLY said, "that thing". Good grief.

Yes, Lisa understood my intent there ... thanks.

BTW, Thomas Jefferson also shared the hope that someday humans would progress beyond ancient religions/superstitions. Obviously it's been a long time since he shuffled off the mortal coil, but religion is still going strong, so perhaps I'm being overly optimistic about seeing it pass in my day. Que sera, sera ... I guess I'm just happy that they seem to have stopped killing us, for the most part.

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That wasn't intolerance she just hopes people move past religion. In her mind that would be a good thing because religions tend to be intolerant of people like her. If everybody treated everyone else according to the Golden rule she probably wouldn't care at all.

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I saw it as intolerant! I keep getting told how intolerant I am, so I should know the meaning. If you don't think it is, well, ok!

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