I'm bloody well tired

MJsLady · #61 03/26/14, 11:54 PM

I have been on this site for years.
The arguments here are nothing compared to a Baptist site I visit now and then.

where I want to · #62 03/27/14, 12:03 AM

Why so many parties need alcohol to be enjoyable is that chitchat is really really, really boring.

wr · #63 03/27/14, 12:06 AM

HT has members from several countries and various walks of life. Some members speak eloquently and others are a bit rough around the edges. We try to consider regional slang, delivery, the history of the poster in question and the level of passion of specific topics.

We might not get it right all the time but we do consult with each other and try to be fair. We are also rely on our members. If you see something specific that you think we haven't, please report it and if you have concerns, send us a pm but please make sure you contact a mod from the related forum.

davel745 · #64 03/27/14, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sand flea

Haha

I just posted something similar on another forum, as the OP. I've noticed that there is an uptick in posts/posters in general, that seem intent on simply arguing - and coming up a winner/loser - in discussions instead of simply "talking" - and taking in all the posts as people's opinions and perspectives.

Some posters seem to think the rules of debate apply to talking online; others that those of us who "just talk" must be able to provide them links to some kind of validating "proof" for everything we say... as if we're journalists or teachers or librarians to help them learn more about a topic. Or they feel justified to criticize every single opinion that doesn't fit their world-view and beliefs.

It is all presented with a demanding, negative, and accusing tone... and it's so discouraging when we should be trying to help each other out and share what we know/believe. Since when did civil discourse include this kind of impudent, demanding, inquisition??

Did I not get the memo?

It's not just here; the mods do pretty good here and on the other sites I frequent. There was the guy I saw (elsewhere) who got banned the same day he joined. But I'm more & more avoiding those sites that are unmoderated for just this reason. We are going to NEED each other going forward, so a word to the wise: stop alienating people who might be able to help you later on.

I too have noticed that the ones who are hurtful and have other problems don't stay around to long.

greg273 · #65 03/27/14, 09:41 AM

This forum used to be informative and entertaining, and people would actually discuss original thoughts and ideas, although in the past few years there has been an influx of new members who apparently think this is a place to endlessly 'copy and paste' partisan opinion pieces, usually followed by one sentence of original thought. It almost feels like we're being spammed. Where has DeaconJim been??? Even though I rarely agreed with him, at least his opinion pieces were original.

AngieM2 · #66 03/27/14, 10:07 AM

part of what you are seeing Greg is that we opened GC to anyone, not just to those that have been here for 30 days and posted elsewhere up to about 30 or 50 posts in a good manner.

That's the biggest change to GC.

davel745 · #67 03/27/14, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Twobottom

Unless I'm mistaken every member has the ability to use the ignore function. Why not let each member decide how and when to deal with other posters? Let's let people decide for themselves when they are offended.

As far as 'shouting down those with whom they disagree' you'll have to explain to me how that is possible on an online forum. But I will also sometimes jump in when the odds are against someone, thats just my instinct sometimes

then no one would talk to me they need to delete the ignore function

Scott SW Ohio · #68 03/27/14, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Awnry Abe

Regarding the 'ignore' button...if you ignore anyone here, you are really missing out on some good stuff...loser.

I don't post here much, but read most of what is posted and have done so for a long time now. I have put five posters on "ignore" at one time or another. Of those two have been banned, one has become inactive and one I took off "ignore" (that poster is on DOUBLE SECRET probation - we'll see how it goes).

I never ignored a poster just for being offensive or for contrary principles. But I read here for information, and to hear new points of view, so for me the worst combination is offensive posters who also are tedious - cut/paste artists and mantra chanters. Those folks you can ignore without missing any "good stuff."

One remarkable thing is to read posts from GC and Politics regulars in other forums. In a lot of cases I grit my teeth to read what they post here, only to see them being reasonable, and even kindly, in Singletree or Homesteading Families. That supports my view that most people here are good folks and care about others, but that the atmosphere in the contentious forums tends to present us as something we really are not.

Bret · #69 03/27/14, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ardie/WI

Is that something like I determined rather quickly not to toot and drive my electric scooter backward??

I say often while driving in close proximity to potential fender benders, and while parallel parking, "small speed, small dent."

Works when talking too.

It is good to toot when backing a scooter to alert people of your presence. Sometimes, when I toot in the isle at the grocery store, without a cart, it is offensive to even myself and when I try to walk away to separate myself from the scene of the tooting that the evidence follows me, and I end up going further than intended.

When a cowboy finds himself in a hole, he should stop digging and toot only if absolutely necessary and never when upwind of the chuck wagon.

This is all minutely relevant or perhaps not.

bowdonkey · #70 03/27/14, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott SW Ohio

I don't post here much, but read most of what is posted and have done so for a long time now. I have put five posters on "ignore" at one time or another. Of those two have been banned, one has become inactive and one I took off "ignore" (that poster is on DOUBLE SECRET probation - we'll see how it goes).

I never ignored a poster just for being offensive or for contrary principles. But I read here for information, and to hear new points of view, so for me the worst combination is offensive posters who also are tedious - cut/paste artists and mantra chanters. Those folks you can ignore without missing any "good stuff."

One remarkable thing is to read posts from GC and Politics regulars in
other forums. In a lot of cases I grit my teeth to read what they post
here, only to see them being reasonable, and even kindly, in Singletree
or Homesteading Families. That supports my view that most people
here are good folks and care about others, but that the atmosphere in
the contentious forums tends to present us as something we really are
not.

I'm friendly up in Gardening!

I agree though, different forums have different atmospheres. I like that, by the way.

Ardie/WI · #71 03/27/14, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott SW Ohio

I don't post here much, but read most of what is posted and have done so for a long time now. I have put five posters on "ignore" at one time or another. Of those two have been banned, one has become inactive and one I took off "ignore" (that poster is on DOUBLE SECRET probation - we'll see how it goes).

I never ignored a poster just for being offensive or for contrary principles. But I read here for information, and to hear new points of view, so for me the worst combination is offensive posters who also are tedious - cut/paste artists and mantra chanters. Those folks you can ignore without missing any "good stuff."

One remarkable thing is to read posts from GC and Politics regulars in other forums. In a lot of cases I grit my teeth to read what they post here, only to see them being reasonable, and even kindly, in Singletree or Homesteading Families. That supports my view that most people here are good folks and care about others, but that the atmosphere in the contentious forums tends to present us as something we really are not.

The ppl who are on my "ignore" list are the same ones who tried to follow me around the Internet acting like cretins.

bowdonkey · #72 03/27/14, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by davel745

then no one would talk to me they need to delete the ignore function

I have myself on ignore most of the time.

Ardie/WI · #73 03/27/14, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bret

I say often while driving in close proximity to potential fender benders, and while parallel parking, "small speed, small dent."

Works when talking too.

It is good to toot when backing a scooter to alert people of your presence. Sometimes, when I toot in the isle at the grocery store, without a cart, it is offensive to even myself and when I try to walk away to separate myself from the scene of the tooting that the evidence follows me, and I end up going further than intended.

When a cowboy finds himself in a hole, he should stop digging and toot only if absolutely necessary and never when upwind of the chuck wagon.

This is all minutely relevant or perhaps not.

Iffen I need to "toot" in a store, I try to find an aisle that's empty and turn the speed on HIGH!!!

Ambereyes · #74 03/27/14, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ardie/WI

Iffen I need to "toot" in a store, I try to find an aisle that's empty and turn the speed on HIGH!!!

Well that explains it!! Went down the canned goods aisle and a funny aroma made my eyes start watering..

bowdonkey · #75 03/27/14, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ardie/WI

Iffen I need to "toot" in a store, I try to find an aisle that's empty and turn the speed on HIGH!!!

Ya know that gives me an idea. Next time I'm in a slow moving line in Wallyworld. Which is everytime I'm there, I'm going to let one rip, maybe that will get things moving along a little quicker.

Bret · #76 03/27/14, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ardie/WI

Iffen I need to "toot" in a store, I try to find an aisle that's empty and turn the speed on HIGH!!!

People come out of nowhere.

It must be one of the laws of the universe.

Ardie/WI · #77 03/27/14, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ambereyes

Well that explains it!! Went down the canned goods aisle and a funny aroma made my eyes start watering..

Yup! That was me!

greg273 · #78 03/27/14, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AngieM2

part of what you are seeing Greg is that we opened GC to anyone, not just to those that have been here for 30 days and posted elsewhere up to about 30 or 50 posts in a good manner.

That's the biggest change to GC.

That was a good policy. It weeded out those whose main interest was partisan politics, or at least delayed them getting into GC until they proved they could 'get along with others'. Showing an interest in legitimate homesteading activities used to a prerequisite to posting in GC. Meh, whatever. If some folks want a discussion board to be an echo chamber, then so be it.

Bret · #79 03/27/14, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ardie/WI

Yup! That was me!

Thanks for drawing the fire.

notwyse · #80 03/27/14, 03:48 PM

Well I must say that first I was delighted to find this forum. .though I was looking for another one. Then I was shocked at how quickbit seemed that