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11/19/13, 04:53 PM
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Glyphosate is not a pesticide....James
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Herbicides are pesticides. Insecticides are pesticides. Fungicides are pesticides. Rodenticides are pesticides. By the definition used in every pesticide training course I've ever taken, mouse traps, fly swatters and even occasionally shotguns or rolled-up newspapers can be pesticides.
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11/19/13, 05:06 PM
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Herbicides are pesticides. Insecticides are pesticides. Fungicides are pesticides. Rodenticides are pesticides. By the definition used in every pesticide training course I've ever taken, mouse traps, fly swatters and even occasionally shotguns or rolled-up newspapers can be pesticides.
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I'm partial to the 12 qauge pesticide when it comes to larger pests ;-)
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11/19/13, 05:08 PM
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I never said it was a pesticide - I just wondering out loud and asking a general question. I'm going back to amend my post though.
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11/19/13, 05:27 PM
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From what I've heard, you have to eat a whole bunch of GMO corn before your genes change enough that the Roundup will leave your healthy cells alone.
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11/19/13, 05:30 PM
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Herbicides are pesticides. Insecticides are pesticides. Fungicides are pesticides. Rodenticides are pesticides. By the definition used in every pesticide training course I've ever taken, mouse traps, fly swatters and even occasionally shotguns or rolled-up newspapers can be pesticides.
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correct - The all encompassing term IS pesticide and they are all plant protection products used to deter, incapacitate, kill or otherwise discourage pests which include insects, fungi, rodent, pathogens, other plants and microbes. Herbicide is a one category and according to their own definition glyphosate is an herbicide.
Still not anything to get excited about as far as cancer treatment goes - yet.
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11/19/13, 07:02 PM
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Anyone going to starting drinking it to prevent cancer?
Who paid for the study?
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11/19/13, 07:14 PM
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Anyone going to starting drinking it to prevent cancer?
Who paid for the study?
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No, but who said you had to drink it? If it actually turns out to kill cancer cells, there would be trials to determine effectiveness, side effects, and dosage. Coumadin is rat poison (Warfarin) but used by many people to thin the blood.
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11/19/13, 07:26 PM
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Per http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3749059/
Acknowledgments
This work was partly supported by a grant from the Department of Defense (PC121647), two grants from the National Institute of General Medical Sciences (P20GM103518) and the National Cancer Institute (R01CA174714) of the National Institutes of Health, the Developmental Fund of Tulane Cancer Center (TCC), and the Louisiana Cancer Research Consortium (LCRC) Fund (to ZY). Dr Zongbing You conceived the idea and designed the experiments. The content of this article is solely the responsibility of the authors and does not necessarily represent the official views of the National Institutes of Health. The TCC and LCRC FACS Core Facilities were used to conduct this study. Dr Qingli Li received a scholarship from the State Scholarship Fund via China Scholarship Council (CSC) for her training under Dr Zongbing You at Tulane University.
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11/19/13, 08:04 PM
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Why is dept of defense involved?
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11/19/13, 08:14 PM
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Yeah..interesting huh? And it says partly funded. I wish they'd list all sources.
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11/19/13, 08:37 PM
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Yeah..interesting huh? And it says partly funded. I wish they'd list all sources.
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They give a pretty good list of the sponsors and I don't see any nefarious names there. It's not clear if that is a complete list or not. The opening sentence says partly funded by, so does that mean all the names listed had a part in funding it or others were also involved in the funding? Could be read either way.
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11/20/13, 10:51 AM
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Because Monsanto and the gov are one and the same!
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11/20/13, 11:11 AM
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I wouldn't trust the governments studies. MANY peer review studies have also been found to have been PAID FOR. If it's the US govt, you know it's a lie.
It's long been known that the ingredient in marijuana also kills cancer cells. Don't see the gubmint touting that one. Essiac, that triple herb recipe has been shown to do it too.
Remember, first and foremost - Cancer is BIG BUSINESS. The LAST thing the AMA is interested in is CURING anything.
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11/20/13, 11:25 AM
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So the chem trails i have been reading about on another thread are actually good for us? I can't keep up with all this carzyness!!!
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11/20/13, 02:07 PM
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Facts?
The fact is that the study you posted here says the problem does not lie in the fact that they are rural but in their low incomes and lack of access to healthcare. Notice that the counties listed aren't in the corn belt, or out in the amber waves of grain where the use of GM seeds and glyphosate is common,but in appalachia, an area noted for the listed problems.
If you are really so worried about facts you should actually read the articles you link to instead of skimming the title and hoping it will actually back you up.
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