Niece is entrapped in cult

Cult: any form of spiritual/religious beliefs or ethical foundation practiced by others that I dont happen to agree with. I think this pretty much sums it up.

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Hang on a minute...
PCC is an UNACCREDITED school.
So she isn't really getting an education that is of any use whatsoever.
It is not exactly a cult, but just some crazy religious stuff.
The norm for the truly extreme.

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Being unaccredited does not necessarily mean useless crazy religious stuff. As I mentioned earlier, I spent good money going to an unaccredited business school. It was the best investment I ever made. I learned a lot that was very useful in the real world and made me a LOT of money later.

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A college degree even from an unaccredited school still means that you have gotten an education.

When that knowledge costs mucho $$ I want as much for my money as possible, which for me includes the benefits of attending an accredited institution.

I would not want to spend money where credits won't transfer or where my opportunities for grad school choices would be severely limited etc.

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The importance of accreditation would solely depend on HER goals. If her focus is on church work, private education, or the missionary field (which is a good majority of the students) than accreditation is really immaterial.

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Not everyone looks to grad school. Right or wrong, many young Christian women know that they will be staying home with their kids when they are married and have children. So why go to grad school? They are getting higher education and in an environment that makes them most comfortable. There's nothing right or wrong with that.

Thats what has always been great about the USA... we all gets to pick and choose what we want, when we want it and not be forced into anything. For me, the extra half a million bucks I was able to make with my nonaccredited education was enough. Others may see things differently... and thats just as fine as a frogs hair split 3 ways. From what I have read here this girl has opted to spend her money and get the education she wants, where she wants to.

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So long as that plan doesn't include a bunch of children, staying at home on welfare then its none of anybody's business what she does or where she's educated.


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Harvard is not accredited. So I guess an education from there is useless also. Depending on what you're getting a degree in determines how important accreditation is. To become a licensed vet tech I had to attend a college program that was AVMA accredited. If the program wasn't AVMA accredited you had to submit a ton of paperwork to prove your education met their requirements.

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I don't know where you get your info but Harvard IS accredited.

Yep went with what I was told in school. Just googled it, they've been accredited for 70

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Back to the OP - I agree this sounds terrible - but she is choosing it, and all of us have to be free to make our own mistakes. You don't say how close your relationship with her is, but I think you should continue it at the same level it's been.

For her, this experience may turn out to be one she regrets, or it may not. Either way, it's her choice.

Since it's obvious from a quick google search that you can indeed contact her directly or even visit her, why not go visit and see how she's doing?

With the extremity of the rules, I would almost say it's a "cult-diet" because it's not stopping her from leaving at all. She can choose to stay or leave and do other things with her life.

I would HOPE that she gains education and then moves on to live a fulfilling and productive life. Just because it's not accredited doesn't mean the knowledge is useless. There are still some businesses smart enough to check to see what you are capable of DOING rather than what you have printed up on paper. She could learn at this strict religious school and then go on to be a CEO of her own business empire.

I suspect that if the school was listed as Muslim or Wiccan or something, the attitudes shown here might be different. But truly, just because it's religious doesn't automatically mean she is being told she's a stupid worthless female capable of only breeding and waiting hand/foot on a man either. If it's a GOOD religious school, it will give her a good sense of self-worth and teach her to value herself over the attentions of the first boy to come along.

I am so confused by the outrage here- I went to PSU- had I gone to a college that was more strict- instead of being swayed into one where my mom worked so I could get a discount- I wouldn't have taken 5 yrs to finish - and ended up with a carp degree- I am blaming myself here as well as the environment - I was a follower not a leader like I am now- thanks to strong friends as an adult- and if I had gotten better guidance as a teen that came from a really bad background- with no real discipline- it would not have taken until my late 30s to straighten up and fly right- now grant it- I have some awesome outcomes in my life that happened due to going to college there-
My oldest son- a true gem- Met my hubby at work - a job I got at the university - after working my way up - from min wage part time- ...
but if this young woman knows she wants a stricter atmosphere- what is the problem?

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According to the rules, off-campus meetings with members of the opposite sex are grounds for dismissal. There is no exemption for family members.

That place is a piece of work alright, but since she's there voluntarily, I don't think there's much you can do about it.

Perhaps you could pursue the accreditation angle -- what's she studying? For instance, if she wants to become a teacher, she should be made aware that her PCC degree won't allow her to work in public schools.

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Interesting. You must be reading something different than I am. I read that if it is approved and there is a chaperone, it is fine. I don't see "no exemption for family members". Can you show me where that info is?

" < She is not allowed to witness any current events because she is not allowed to watch or even have access to a television or listen to the radio >"

Im jealous of her new found peace and tranquility ... Think how less stressful life would be if you didnt have to witness the train wreck we seem to be heading for

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I read the catalog. They are growing a bunch of really boring folks......who want to be boring. A cult? I don't think so.