Voter Registration ID Requirements

Yvonne's hubby · #61 10/08/13, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Patchouli

Unless of course you move which the young and the poor are more likely to do multiple times in a year.

Well, the young probably shouldnt be voting anyway... they really dont have much life experience yet and the poor.... well young or old.... those folks are obviously not in a position to be running things their way either... for heavens sake let people who at least know how to feed themselves make these life altering decisions for others. Maybe you think we should just turn the elections over to teens and the homeless?

Ok, now where is that sarc smilie when ya need it?

mmoetc · #62 10/09/13, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Yvonne's hubby

Well maybe someone who is also waiting in this huge long line for the past 4 hours might clue them in as to the need in having their ID out and ready.... ya think?

You mean like the folks I inevitably get behind in every cash register line who wait until their entire order is rung up before they start to dig for a payment method and after rooting around to find the checkbook have to ask for a pen to fill it out?

MJsLady · #63 10/09/13, 07:59 AM

Sorry guys but this bit about waiting for the person in front of you is the lamest excuse I have seen yet.
Waiting on other folks is part of life. Suck it up and get on with things.

The point is to make sure our elections are just and that each person only gets 1 vote, and that they are alive when they cast it and not a cartoon character or a corpse.

If it takes an extra 5 minutes each to do that, in my book it is well worth the time spent.

Glade Runner · #64 10/09/13, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Patchouli

Seems to me if there were actually more votes than registered voters in a precinct that would be pretty easy to prove. We have to sign in here to get a ballot, I assume that is the norm in most places. So match the lists and see what happened. The fact I have never seen it proved leads me to believe it is made-up, nothing more than an urban legend.

I would have to say that if you've never seen any evidence of voter fraud it means you probably aren't looking very hard.

Patchouli · #65 10/09/13, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Yvonne's hubby

Well maybe someone who is also waiting in this huge long line for the past 4 hours might clue them in as to the need in having their ID out and ready.... ya think?

Oh yeah because putting up signs and the nice lady walking down the line telling people what they need to have out worked at all the last time I was in line at a polling station. When was the last time you stood in line behind the nice old lady in the check-out line who hadn't even pulled out her check book from her mammoth purse while the cashier checked out her mound of groceries? You think she was unaware she needed it?

Patchouli · #66 10/09/13, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Glade Runner

I would have to say that if you've never seen any evidence of voter fraud it means you probably aren't looking very hard.

Post some proof.

Patchouli · #67 10/09/13, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Yvonne's hubby

Well, the young probably shouldnt be voting anyway... they really dont have much life experience yet and the poor.... well young or old.... those folks are obviously not in a position to be running things their way either... for heavens sake let people who at least know how to feed themselves make these life altering decisions for others. Maybe you think we should just turn the elections over to teens and the homeless?

Ok, now where is that sarc smilie when ya need it?

Wha.....? So much for our rights as American citizens then. Good to see a conservative show their true selves. If you are poor or young or a minority or elderly you don't deserve a vote anyways. We always knew you thought that way of course but it's rare to see one of you admit it.

Grumpy old man · #68 10/09/13, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Patchouli

Wha.....? So much for our rights as American citizens then. Good to see a conservative show their true selves. If you are poor or young or a minority or elderly you don't deserve a vote anyways. We always knew you thought that way of course but it's rare to see one of you admit it.

Well at least he didn't sell out the whole US !

arabian knight · #69 10/09/13, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Patchouli

Wha.....? So much for our rights as American citizens then. Good to see a conservative show their true selves. If you are poor or young or a minority or elderly you don't deserve a vote anyways. We always knew you thought that way of course but it's rare to see one of you admit it.

Do you know that you have No Rights according to the constitution to VOTE in a National Election. So much for trying to make this a Rights issue, but failed.

**Shrek** · #70 10/09/13, 10:31 PM

When I was taking a couple quarters of courses out of state in college and later when my job kept me out of state at polling time I voted an absentee ballot and that was 20 to 30 years ago.

catspjamas · #71 10/09/13, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by susieneddy

The bad thing about photo ID's is what they accept and don't accept. A photo ID is a photo ID unless the state gov't thinks it isn't.

This is for Tennessee

Any of the following IDs may be used, even if expired:

Tennessee driver license with your photo
United States Passport
Photo ID issued by the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security
Photo ID issued by the federal or Tennessee state government
United States Military photo ID
Tennessee handgun carry permit with your photo

What IDs are not acceptable?
College student IDs and photo IDs not issued by the federal or Tennessee state government are NOT acceptable. This includes county or city issued photo IDs, such as library cards, and photo IDs issued by other states.

Really local photo ID's issued by the county or city you live in isn't acceptable? A photo ID issued by another state isn't acceptable when it has your picture on it

I never had to show a photo ID to vote until the Republican took over the state.

Well you know what that went against them in the Presidential election because people got out to get the ID's they needed. There are counties in Tn which have no DMV's and the people had to travel hours to get to them. Then the hours of the DMV's were cut so people had to make 2 trips to get them or they made excuses that the person didn't have the proper info to get one.

This Photo ID thing totally backfired on the Republicans..they got what they deserved

My TN library card does not have my photo on it. I've never had a library card with my photo on it. As for a student ID, it doesn't prove that the student is a legal resident of the county the school is located in. Students have to vote where their legal resident is, and that's usually where the parents live. Same as an ID issued by another State. If I still had my NC driver's license, how would that prove I'm a legal resident of TN and am entitled to vote in this State?

catspjamas · #72 10/09/13, 10:59 PM

Geez louise, people, long lines have always been a problem with voting. We have a newspaper photo of my dad in a voting line from the '70s, or early '80s. He got off work at 7:30am and went to vote, and there was already a long line. And each County Election Board controls how many precincts there are, so blame them for long lines if they're not willing to open more precincts. And maybe they can't open them, because they don't have the people to man them. I don't know if the people working at the polling place are volunteers or paid, either way, I wouldn't want to do it.

arabian knight · #73 10/09/13, 11:01 PM

Long Lines? Then it IS time, Long time over due time, to get MORE Voting places. Simple as THAT. Problem Solved.

nchobbyfarm · #74 10/10/13, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Patchouli

You must have missed all the news reports at the last election of people standing in line for hours due to crowded conditions. All the reason Chickenista listed in their post were cited in those stories. Decreased voting hours, small places that couldn't handle the crowds etc. My personal experience at the last presidential election was in a large city at a small church that had 3 different precincts voting there and it was a nightmare.

1st- I have yet to see anyone post anything that proves the State legislature has closed any polling places.

2nd- I would be interested in seeing stories of people in NC not being allowed to vote or waiting for hours in line.

We all had to wait in line the last election for a time. If you are in line, you will get to vote just as it has always been and will continue to be. There is nothing in the new law that says you will be thrown out IF you are in line before closing time.

Yvonne's hubby · #75 10/10/13, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Patchouli

Oh yeah because putting up signs and the nice lady walking down the line telling people what they need to have out worked at all the last time I was in line at a polling station. When was the last time you stood in line behind the nice old lady in the check-out line who hadn't even pulled out her check book from her mammoth purse while the cashier checked out her mound of groceries? You think she was unaware she needed it?

I dunno if she was before... but she was definitely aware after I told her she needed to get a move on and people were waiting.

Yvonne's hubby · #76 10/10/13, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Patchouli

Wha.....? So much for our rights as American citizens then. Good to see a conservative show their true selves. If you are poor or young or a minority or elderly you don't deserve a vote anyways. We always knew you thought that way of course but it's rare to see one of you admit it.

First of all, NO American citizen has a right to vote just because they happen to be citizens. States have always been able to set the rules for who does and does not get to vote... if indeed an election is even held. There have been a few Constitutional amendments regarding this issue such as no state can discriminate due to race or being female.... but the "right to vote" just because one is a citizen has never existed in this country. Five years olds.... born in this country DO NOT get to vote in any state that I know of. I am not sure about today, but at one time in some states convicted felons could be denied the vote. Nearly all states require pre registration in order to vote. Showing up at the polls waving a birth certificate isnt going to guarantee anyone a right to vote in this country... never has, and hopefully never will. This issue has been argued in front of the Supreme Court, it simply doesnt exist.

Now.... this does not mean that I take issue with any particular rules a state may or may not have set forth regarding voting.... but honestly I do believe that any person wishing to vote in this country should have to meet some very basic qualifications. One of which is military service. (which would exclude me from ever casting a ballot) Second would be every voter should be required to pass a basic civics exam... similar to the ones used by immigration before granting citizenship. I really dont think it is too much to ask that voters understand the basic principles of our government, or to have a little skin in the game.

Lastly.... did you not bother to read the very last line of my post?

Yvonne's hubby · #77 10/10/13, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Patchouli

Post some proof.

I did that already, cant remember which thread, but I have personally been approached lots of times at the polls and been offered numerous and assorted "enticements" to vote for certain parties. everything from booze to cash to "If you help me win, I will take good care of your driveway from the main road back to your house, you will never need to buy gravel or grade it again.".

Yes Virginia... voter fraud really exists.

Grumpy old man · #78 10/10/13, 03:36 AM

Fraud ? In government ? Say it isn't so ! The local gov here still thrives on the good ol boy system it's alive and well . It's who you know not justice for all .

mmoetc · #79 10/10/13, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Yvonne's hubby

I did that already, cant remember which thread, but I have personally been approached lots of times at the polls and been offered numerous and assorted "enticements" to vote for certain parties. everything from booze to cash to "If you help me win, I will take good care of your driveway from the main road back to your house, you will never need to buy gravel or grade it again.".

Yes Virginia... voter fraud really exists.

And I'm sure as a law abiding citizen wishing to ensure fair, honest and open elections you reported each of these incidents to the proper authorities. Or, how's that driveway working out for ya?

Yvonne's hubby · #80 10/10/13, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mmoetc

And I'm sure as a law abiding citizen wishing to ensure fair, honest and open elections you reported each of these incidents to the proper authorities. Or, how's that driveway working out for ya?

Of course not, that would be silly since these guys were the "proper" authorities... I took the incentives from the ones I was going to vote for anyway. My mama didnt raise no idiot children! While I havent lived at that place in over 20 years the driveway is still in good shape... they really did do a nice job.