Voter Registration ID Requirements

Yvonne's hubby · #41 10/08/13, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by catspjamas

probably my baptist upbringing that you don't do anything on Sunday. Other than that I have no valid reason why people shouldn't vote on Sunday. Unless the employees in the election office get paid OT for being there on Sunday. That would be a reason not to have Sunday voting.

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The problem I have with sunday voting is that sunday nearly always comes right after saturday night. This is going to create a real problem for most of my friends who can barely see, much less drive to the polls in their condition.

Sawmill Jim · #42 10/08/13, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Yvonne's hubby

The problem I have with sunday voting is that sunday nearly always comes right after saturday night. This is going to create a real problem for most of my friends who can barely see, much less drive to the polls in their condition.

Yea when you go to bed a 4 in the morning who cares what leaver gets pulled much less getting up and pulling it

Patchouli · #43 10/08/13, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nchobbyfarm

We do!

And we also had enough early voting sites and times that it cost hundreds of thousands of dollars every election. People just want to complain because we are actually applying RULES for voting that apply to EVERYONE. This whole argument is absurd. No one is inconvenienced. There are ways in the law to vote even if you have trouble getting an ID. And I could count on my fingers and toes those that will have legitimate trouble. This is all about nothing.

If you vote in a rural area you probably won't see any problems with your voting. Try voting in the city. Small places crammed to the gills with too many voters, no parking, long, long waits and tons of poll watchers whose only goal is to keep the opposing party from voting. And those absentee ballots? They usually aren't even counted unless they are needed in a close race.

Yvonne's hubby · #44 10/08/13, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Patchouli

If you vote in a rural area you probably won't see any problems with your voting. Try voting in the city. Small places crammed to the gills with too many voters, no parking, long, long waits and tons of poll watchers whose only goal is to keep the opposing party from voting. And those absentee ballots? They usually aren't even counted unless they are needed in a close race.

And is there a reason that you think requiring photo ID is going to create more crowding at these polling places?

Glade Runner · #45 10/08/13, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Patchouli

No they don't. Once again try to look into the subject just the slightest bit please! No one has ever proven that there is voter fraud on any sort of scale at all. No one. It is a myth that Republicans trot out to convince the uninformed that something needs to be done and that something is finding whatever way they can to disenfranchise voters.

Yeah, that's why you have all these counties with more votes than they have registered voters. And guess what, those counties always vote Democrat. The truth is that there's massive voter fraud but it is difficult to prove under current law and there's no effort to enforce the law where fraud most often occurs. The real myth is promulgated by Democrats who say the fact that fraud is not prosecuted is proof that it doesn't exist, all the while doing everything in their power to make sure it doesn't get prosecuted. Neck deep hypocrisy as usual.

nchobbyfarm · #46 10/08/13, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Patchouli

If you vote in a rural area you probably won't see any problems with your voting. Try voting in the city. Small places crammed to the gills with too many voters, no parking, long, long waits and tons of poll watchers whose only goal is to keep the opposing party from voting. And those absentee ballots? They usually aren't even counted unless they are needed in a close race.

Care to show me examples of these places that are to small and limited parking.

See I live in a well populated area just outside 3 cities including the state capital. I work in the school system of the capital and a huge number of polling places are in fact in the schools. And the State legislature does not establish polling places, the county board of elections does.

Patchouli · #47 10/08/13, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Yvonne's hubby

And is there a reason that you think requiring photo ID is going to create more crowding at these polling places?

Maybe you missed the fact that we have been discussing more than just the photo ID issue? Needing photo ID does slow the whole process down though by adding an extra step.

Patchouli · #48 10/08/13, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nchobbyfarm

Care to show me examples of these places that are to small and limited parking.

See I live in a well populated area just outside 3 cities including the state capital. I work in the school system of the capital and a huge number of polling places are in fact in the schools. And the State legislature does not establish polling places, the county board of elections does.

You must have missed all the news reports at the last election of people standing in line for hours due to crowded conditions. All the reason Chickenista listed in their post were cited in those stories. Decreased voting hours, small places that couldn't handle the crowds etc. My personal experience at the last presidential election was in a large city at a small church that had 3 different precincts voting there and it was a nightmare.

Patchouli · #49 10/08/13, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Glade Runner

Yeah, that's why you have all these counties with more votes than they have registered voters. And guess what, those counties always vote Democrat. The truth is that there's massive voter fraud but it is difficult to prove under current law and there's no effort to enforce the law where fraud most often occurs. The real myth is promulgated by Democrats who say the fact that fraud is not prosecuted is proof that it doesn't exist, all the while doing everything in their power to make sure it doesn't get prosecuted. Neck deep hypocrisy as usual.

Seems to me if there were actually more votes than registered voters in a precinct that would be pretty easy to prove. We have to sign in here to get a ballot, I assume that is the norm in most places. So match the lists and see what happened. The fact I have never seen it proved leads me to believe it is made-up, nothing more than an urban legend.

arabian knight · #50 10/08/13, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Patchouli

Maybe you missed the fact that we have been discussing more than just the photo ID issue? Needing photo ID does slow the whole process down though by adding an extra step.

An extra step? Look at the person whole seeing if the picture matches the person? takes how long? Less then 2 seconds. that is such a weak argument it isn't worth even mentioning. What do you think they are going to look at? Their eyes their hair their nose, their mouth? And Study them to see IF that matches the picture on the ID for 5 minutes? You Look at the ID Look at the person BINGO it is done.

DEKE01 · #51 10/08/13, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by arabian knight

An extra step? Look at the person whole seeing if the picture matches the person? takes how long? Less then 2 seconds. that is such a weak argument it isn't worth even mentioning. What do you think they are going to look at? Their eyes their hair their nose, their mouth? And Study them to see IF that matches the picture on the ID for 5 minutes? You Look at the ID Look at the person BINGO it is done.

Yep, that's just what TSA does at the airport. If that is too much of a burden, tough. If we aren't going to ensure we have honest elections, then why have them at all.

susieneddy · #52 10/08/13, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by arabian knight

An extra step? Look at the person whole seeing if the picture matches the person? takes how long? Less then 2 seconds. that is such a weak argument it isn't worth even mentioning. What do you think they are going to look at? Their eyes their hair their nose, their mouth? And Study them to see IF that matches the picture on the ID for 5 minutes? You Look at the ID Look at the person BINGO it is done.

The bad thing about photo ID's is what they accept and don't accept. A photo ID is a photo ID unless the state gov't thinks it isn't.

This is for Tennessee

Any of the following IDs may be used, even if expired:

Tennessee driver license with your photo
United States Passport
Photo ID issued by the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security
Photo ID issued by the federal or Tennessee state government
United States Military photo ID
Tennessee handgun carry permit with your photo

What IDs are not acceptable?
College student IDs and photo IDs not issued by the federal or Tennessee state government are NOT acceptable. This includes county or city issued photo IDs, such as library cards, and photo IDs issued by other states.

Really local photo ID's issued by the county or city you live in isn't acceptable? A photo ID issued by another state isn't acceptable when it has your picture on it

I never had to show a photo ID to vote until the Republican took over the state.

Well you know what that went against them in the Presidential election because people got out to get the ID's they needed. There are counties in Tn which have no DMV's and the people had to travel hours to get to them. Then the hours of the DMV's were cut so people had to make 2 trips to get them or they made excuses that the person didn't have the proper info to get one.

This Photo ID thing totally backfired on the Republicans..they got what they deserved

AngieM2 · #53 10/08/13, 10:15 PM

The TN laws seem pretty reasonable. Get one ID once, you know a year before hand that you'll need it - for voting and many other things.

I still cannot see anyone except those that want to leave open the possibility of fraud having a problem with this.

susieneddy · #54 10/08/13, 10:24 PM

Angie, don't you think that a local county or city photo ID of the state you live in would work so you could vote? If not why?

AngieM2 · #55 10/08/13, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by susieneddy

Angie, don't you think that a local county or city photo ID of the state you live in would work so you could vote? If not why?

If you have to prove citizenship to get it, I would not have a problem with it.

susieneddy · #56 10/08/13, 10:32 PM

but the state doesn't accept those as a valid ID no matter what you had to show. There is the whole problem..they the Republicans get to chose what they think is acceptable and what isn't. It doesn't matter if they were right or wrong...a photo ID from any county or city in Tenn. should be valid

Patchouli · #57 10/08/13, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AngieM2

The TN laws seem pretty reasonable. Get one ID once, you know a year before hand that you'll need it - for voting and many other things.

I still cannot see anyone except those that want to leave open the possibility of fraud having a problem with this.

Unless of course you move which the young and the poor are more likely to do multiple times in a year.

Patchouli · #58 10/08/13, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by arabian knight

An extra step? Look at the person whole seeing if the picture matches the person? takes how long? Less then 2 seconds. that is such a weak argument it isn't worth even mentioning. What do you think they are going to look at? Their eyes their hair their nose, their mouth? And Study them to see IF that matches the picture on the ID for 5 minutes? You Look at the ID Look at the person BINGO it is done.

Yeah that's great unless you are stuck behind clueless who hasn't even begun to dig for their ID until they get to the table. If all they have to do is sign a register it is a whole lot faster.

Yvonne's hubby · #59 10/08/13, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by susieneddy

but the state doesn't accept those as a valid ID no matter what you had to show. There is the whole problem..they the Republicans get to chose what they think is acceptable and what isn't. It doesn't matter if they were right or wrong...a photo ID from any county or city in Tenn. should be valid

Only if those counties or cities require proof of citizenship in order to get that ID card. Since we know that most any college kid can get a library card, but that they are not required to actually "prove" who they are or where they come from, most anyone could go around picking up this type ID and register in several counties, and vote illegally. I happen to live in the state just to the north of Tennessee, and there really aint a whole lot of difference in the two states when it comes to voter ethics. As in there aint any. I have been offered cash, booze, and numerous other "incentives" at the polls, by both sides of the aisle here in Ky, I am quite sure I am not the only one! I also happen to live very near three separate county lines... it wouldnt be too much trouble for me to pick up a pretty good haul in each county on election day... if I were so inclined. Voter fraud in the good ol usa? I am shocked! say it aint so!

Oh, and another point.... I am pretty sure the republicans cannot pass any laws in Tennessee with out bringing it to a vote on the issue in their state legislature.... where I am also pretty sure democrats and any other breed of duly elected legislator gets to have their say, and have their vote counted.

Yvonne's hubby · #60 10/08/13, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Patchouli

Yeah that's great unless you are stuck behind clueless who hasn't even begun to dig for their ID until they get to the table. If all they have to do is sign a register it is a whole lot faster.

Well maybe someone who is also waiting in this huge long line for the past 4 hours might clue them in as to the need in having their ID out and ready.... ya think?