Voter Registration ID Requirements

Grumpy old man · #21 10/07/13, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollowdweller

All the people I know without picture ID are white rednecks, republicans that lost their license due to DUI.

so much for being politically correct , I'm a white redneck with a degree and republican and have no DUI's or felonies and still have picture id to vote with .your comment is just so wrong on many levels !

Patchouli · #22 10/07/13, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grumpy old man

so much for being politically correct , I'm a white redneck with a degree and republican and have no DUI's or felonies and still have picture id to vote with .your comment is just so wrong on many levels !

I would hope your post is facetious. I happen to know a few redneck conservatives with revoked licenses myself around here.

Grumpy old man · #23 10/07/13, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patchouli

I would hope your post is facetious. I happen to know a few redneck conservatives with revoked licenses myself around here.

You mean educated democrats don't get Dui's ? Or if your a redneck for some reason you don't have ID ? or is it just a jab at republicans in general are drunks ? Most Republicans can afford a lawyer so that should lower the # of DUI"s wouldn't it ?

DEKE01 · #24 10/07/13, 02:41 PM

get real folks, if I say I know a black guy who is a criminal does not mean I'm saying all or most blacks are criminals. If I know a Hispanic that is illegal that doesn't mean I think all Hispanics are illegal.

I do know several folks without IDs, until Hollowdweller mentioned it, I hadn't thought about it but they are Repub rednecks convicted of possession or DUI. I think Hollowdwellers relevant point is that not everyone inconvenienced by voter ID laws is a minority.

arabian knight · #25 10/07/13, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEKE01

get real folks, if I say I know a black guy who is a criminal does not mean I'm saying all or most blacks are criminals. If I know a Hispanic that is illegal that doesn't mean I think all Hispanics are illegal.

I do know several folks without IDs, until Hollowdweller mentioned it, I hadn't thought about it but they are Repub rednecks convicted of possession or DUI. I think Hollowdwellers relevant point is that not everyone inconvenienced by voter ID laws is a minority.

Well the Wording should have been a WHOLE lot different~! THAT is the thing about THAT post. WORDS MEAN something, and WORDS do hurt if not said in a Polite Way.

Glade Runner · #26 10/07/13, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catspjamas

NC just passed new legislation requiring a photo id when you register to vote, and vote. It goes into effect 2016. If you've already registered, but didn't use a photo id, you'll have to show a photo id. If you don't have a photo id, the State will give you one for free, through the DMV. There are some other types of paperwork that you can use for ID, if you don't have a photo. There's other stuff involved, other changes, but the biggest complaint, and what the lawsuits are about, is that the new photo id requirement discriminates against blacks.

Can someone please explain how having to show a photo id discriminates against blacks, or anyone for that matter? If you're black and you have a valid driver's license, you have a photo id. If you're black and in the military, you have an id. The State already issues ID cards for a fee, and now they're going to give them away for free (at tax payer expense), so again, how does that discriminate? Seems like to me the only people it will discriminate against are those that are too ----ed lazy to go get an id.

The law really discriminates against Democrats because they depend on fraudulent votes. The black thing is just a red herring because it's a whole lot easier to sue on that basis.

Patchouli · #27 10/07/13, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glade Runner

The law really discriminates against Democrats because they depend on fraudulent votes. The black thing is just a red herring because it's a whole lot easier to sue on that basis.

No they don't. Once again try to look into the subject just the slightest bit please! No one has ever proven that there is voter fraud on any sort of scale at all. No one. It is a myth that Republicans trot out to convince the uninformed that something needs to be done and that something is finding whatever way they can to disenfranchise voters.

Patchouli · #28 10/07/13, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grumpy old man

You mean educated democrats don't get Dui's ? Or if your a redneck for some reason you don't have ID ? or is it just a jab at republicans in general are drunks ? Most Republicans can afford a lawyer so that should lower the # of DUI"s wouldn't it ?

That was an amazing leap you made there. Amazing.

Nate_in_IN · #29 10/07/13, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patchouli

No they don't. Once again try to look into the subject just the slightest bit please! No one has ever proven that there is voter fraud on any sort of scale at all. No one. It is a myth that Republicans trot out to convince the uninformed that something needs to be done and that something is finding whatever way they can to disenfranchise voters.

Not true. In 2008 there was a disgusting case of voter fraud that allowed the future President Obama to end up on the ballot.

Yvonne's hubby · #30 10/07/13, 04:03 PM

Ok, call me lazy here... but I dont live in NC so this particular state law really doesnt have much to do with me so I am not wanting to go to all the trouble of looking up the voting laws in NC. That being said I am curious about one thing... perhaps those better informed could enlighten me.... Does NC not have absentee ballots? Seems like that would be the simple solution to those who might have trouble getting to the polls in a timely fashion.

nchobbyfarm · #31 10/07/13, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollowdweller

All the people I know without picture ID are white rednecks, republicans that lost their license due to DUI.

Well I am offended at the way YOU keep using this derogatory slang term against any of us poor republicans. I have seen it in multiple threads and asked you to define it more than once but you ignore my requests. So I must assume that you think anyone that is not rich but votes Republican is inferior or stupid. And here I thought we were playing nice.

But if that is the case, Dems should be pushing ID's to help their cause.

nchobbyfarm · #32 10/07/13, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yvonne's hubby

Ok, call me lazy here... but I dont live in NC so this particular state law really doesnt have much to do with me so I am not wanting to go to all the trouble of looking up the voting laws in NC. That being said I am curious about one thing... perhaps those better informed could enlighten me.... Does NC not have absentee ballots? Seems like that would be the simple solution to those who might have trouble getting to the polls in a timely fashion.

We do!

And we also had enough early voting sites and times that it cost hundreds of thousands of dollars every election. People just want to complain because we are actually applying RULES for voting that apply to EVERYONE. This whole argument is absurd. No one is inconvenienced. There are ways in the law to vote even if you have trouble getting an ID. And I could count on my fingers and toes those that will have legitimate trouble. This is all about nothing.

DEKE01 · #33 10/07/13, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patchouli

No they don't. Once again try to look into the subject just the slightest bit please! No one has ever proven that there is voter fraud on any sort of scale at all. No one. It is a myth that Republicans trot out to convince the uninformed that something needs to be done and that something is finding whatever way they can to disenfranchise voters.

How do you know there isn't voter fraud when democrats refuse to look for it? If I can walk into a Chicago polling station and vote in place of my dead relative and no one is allowed to question me as to who I am, there will be no proven voter fraud.

Yvonne's hubby · #34 10/07/13, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nchobbyfarm

We do!

And we also had enough early voting sites and times that it cost hundreds of thousands of dollars every election. People just want to complain because we are actually applying RULES for voting that apply to EVERYONE. This whole argument is absurd. No one is inconvenienced. There are ways in the law to vote even if you have trouble getting an ID. And I could count on my fingers and toes those that will have legitimate trouble. This is all about nothing.

Well that clears that up... thanks. Wonder what those folks would think of my voter qualification ideas? I think there should be a couple of things.... first would be an honorable discharge from the military... for those who are not currently serving... and be able to pass a civics exam... similar to the one given to legal immigrants prior to getting their citizenship. Those two things would accomplish a couple things... one, they would actually have a bit of skin in the game, and two, they would have a basic understanding of how our government is supposed to function. Neither of which should be an outrageous request considering they want to participate in the running of things.

Txsteader · #35 10/08/13, 07:32 AM

What amazes me is that it's too burdensome for poor blacks to acquire a photo ID in order to vote but these same people are expected to maneuver this health insurance nightmare and make an 'informed' choice.

Or else they already have Medicaid, which requires a photo ID.

MJsLady · #36 10/08/13, 08:15 AM

OK I may not be a red neck but I am a born hillbilly.
I still have id.
EVEN a person who doesn't have a driver's license can have a picture id.
If I knew some one personally who needed one, to vote or otherwise, instead of whining about it being unfair for everyone to need one, i would help them get one.
Even if I had to pay for it myself.

You need id to apply for a job, welfare, cash a paycheck.
No one can say they do not need id. Unless maybe you are an older person retired and living on cash.
I don't see anything in the bill or article that would hinder a person who was really determined to vote from doing so. At least not legally.

Making voting too easy is part of what got us into this mess.
Voting is like success. Every one has a right to it, but they need to work to get it.

catspjamas · #37 10/08/13, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiempo

Why? Why not?

probably my baptist upbringing that you don't do anything on Sunday. Other than that I have no valid reason why people shouldn't vote on Sunday. Unless the employees in the election office get paid OT for being there on Sunday. That would be a reason not to have Sunday voting.

TheMartianChick · #38 10/08/13, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yvonne's hubby

Ok, call me lazy here... but I dont live in NC so this particular state law really doesnt have much to do with me so I am not wanting to go to all the trouble of looking up the voting laws in NC. That being said I am curious about one thing... perhaps those better informed could enlighten me.... Does NC not have absentee ballots? Seems like that would be the simple solution to those who might have trouble getting to the polls in a timely fashion.

I haven't read all of the posts, but I do know that in some places absentee ballots are not counted unless the race is too close to call. Personally, I would want my vote to be counted in every election.

catspjamas · #39 10/08/13, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yvonne's hubby

Ok, call me lazy here... but I dont live in NC so this particular state law really doesnt have much to do with me so I am not wanting to go to all the trouble of looking up the voting laws in NC. That being said I am curious about one thing... perhaps those better informed could enlighten me.... Does NC not have absentee ballots? Seems like that would be the simple solution to those who might have trouble getting to the polls in a timely fashion.

Not only do they have absentee voting, they have voting by mail. It's similar to absentee voting but it's for homebound people or others that can't get out to vote. My dad used it to vote when he was taking care of mom. She had Alzheimer's and it would have been difficult for him to take her with him to vote. So he contacted the elections board and they mailed him a ballot.

Yvonne's hubby · #40 10/08/13, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMartianChick

I haven't read all of the posts, but I do know that in some places absentee ballots are not counted unless the race is too close to call. Personally, I would want my vote to be counted in every election.

Ok, heres my take on this. lets say your candidate has 500,000 votes... not including absentees, and his opponent has 400,000 votes, and there is a stack of about 20,000 absentee ballots on the shelf that could be gone through, hand counted and added to the totals.... whats the point? The outcome has been determined and the added time and expense required isnt going to change the outcome. Now if your candidate has 500,000 votes and his opponent has 490,000 then by all means lets hire on the help and get those absentee ballots counted.