Monsanto Protection Act

Nothing stopping the Organic canners and producers for putting that label on THEIR products. But they are not doing so either. Or very very few of them. Why is That? If they want to sell more to people I would think they would be jumping at that label idea.

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Good question. Here's what they must do: http://www.nongmoproject.org/product...ation/process/

But I agree, I wish more did. I think as companies realize there's a lot of people just like me who look for the label and are willing to pay more (I pay almost $5 for flour with this label versus the .99 stuff on sale at my grocery store)..they will jump through the hoops.

As with everything, money talks and I vote with my wallet.


Editing to add, please visit this link to easily find products with this label: http://www.nongmoproject.org/find-no...ting-products/

That is a shame, because there is no gm wheat marketed on the face of the earth, therefore you are paying for nothing but a label. Even though regular flour has no gm ingredients in it. It is interesting what consumer perception can do for people willing to pull the wool over their eyes with a label that means nothing. And folks are angry with monsanto??? Interesting indeed...

Wow, I went to that website. Simply Wow. Sad state of affairs. I would suggest more research. Not meaning to start a debate, but no wonder you are concerned about gm flour, even though it does not exist, if you put your faith in a website like that. I am simply hoping you research some of their false claims more closely.

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Interesting..I'll research further. Thanks!

Monsanto is not the only player, but it is the flagship.

If we do not go full force with monsanto the poor children of the world are going to starve!
Have you heard of the green revolution? It always has been so the poor children won't starve. Tug on the heart strings, don't use cool reason.
It never has a thing to do with the crappy ways of those hungry countries?
I remember when Zimbabwe was Rhodesia and the breadbasket of Africa, and exporting food.
And the poor children that I saved back then, like fifty years ago, produced a dozen more hungry mouths. In the meantime I read all the propaganda in Mother Earth News about overpopulation etc., etc., and I would have loved to have more children, but I did not, While those hungry people have 50 grand kids, I have one. But I have helped feed them.
Let's ruin God's creation to save the hungry children.

that is wonderful that you can do that, but what about the millions who can not?


A question to the proponents: Should we strive to overproduce so the third world can bust at the seams? (well, they always can come here).

Do to others as you would have them do to you. ... Luke 6:31

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Key word "marketed" but since it has been found in Oregon and not planted on purpose that would mean it is out there, how long until it spreads?

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There are several theories on how this experimental wheat ended up being where it was found. Among the theories is that it was "planted" by eco-whackos. Wheat does not spread easily at all. It is easily confined. If it were not, I would not grow it every year.

The chance of a test plot production getting into the commercial system, is only imaginable by those who have no idea about the wheat plant and how it grows, no idea how wheat is shipped and marketed, and no idea of how test plots work.

I am saying the chance of having gm wheat from a test plot in the commercial system is grossly miniscule.

Since those Oregon farmers thought they were growing non-GMO wheat, then wouldn't they market it as non-GMO and you'd be paying $5 a pound for it with the special label?
My point is that since no one is planting any GMO wheat, the label is just a sales trick. Would you pay double for "Hookworm-free pork chops" when there are no hookworms in any of the other pork chops? Will you pay more for non-GMO pumpkins? How about costly "vegetarian fed chickens" when commercial chicken feed is all plant products? 99% of cattle are pasture raised, yet I see high priced beef with "pasture raised" signs on it. Perhaps the low information, knee jerk buyer thinks pasture raised is the same as grass finished?
There is a lot of marketing that depends on the uninformed buyer and a make believe boogieman.
Someday, I expect to grow GMO Sweet corn, Bt and RR. I'll market it as " Locally grown, Organic methods to prevent insect damage". Since I'll be done spraying roundup by the times the ears form, " No chemicals sprayed on these ears". Since Roundup breaks down so fast, I can honestly say, " 100% free of harmful chemicals". It is all just marketing, just like your non-GMO wheat flour.

We have the best government money will buy. If elections were publicly financed we would have a chance for a decent future.

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I'm still on the fence about GMO but I am leaning toward that ultimately we're going to find out nothing good has come of it. So I recently read an article of great interest on just this topic of how different ways it could have gotten into that test plot. I almost wanted to find something that suggested something bad within itself caused it.

I'm not a farmer, but I am an avid gardener and herbalist with a bit more knowledge of plant reproduction than the average Joe on the street. So I read the article with interest and with an open mind. From what I know of plant life, none of the theories make sense - except one. The only one that did make sense is that it was purposely planted there by an anti-GMO supporter. I really did not want to draw that conclusion, but it was the only logical one I was able to draw.

It didn't change my mind about GMO, but I am learning more and more that we do have to keep an open mind and put together the pieces of the GMO debate in a manner that each of us believe is best for our families. I don't think it can, or should be, all or nothing. We don't need to conclude what is best for all; just what is best for me and my family.

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Even if GMO's are bad they are going to be one of the bad choices we have left. In another 12 years there will be another billion mouths to feed so bad choices will all we will have left.

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You could be right about that; which is why so many believe this has been the ultimate long-term goal all along -- to have financial control of the world food demand.

Conspiracy therory for sure, but may not be that far off, rather intentional or not. If the majority of people can be convinced that this is the best and most economical way to put food on everyone's table, then the old ways will disappear and the holders of the GMO's will literally own the world if they control the food supply.

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Monsanto is deeply embedded into the government.
I wouldnt take this as a "white flag", but a ploy. My money is on them banking we feel weve won so our attention will go somewhere else, then they will strike again.

Our job now is the consistently make sure Monstanto is kept in check

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Monsanto needs to be kept in check? Because they produce products that people buy because they want those products. I think every business tries to produce what people will buy.
The problem isn't Monsanto. The problem is that the low information voter is swayed by the politician that buys the most tv ads, paid for by people that don't share our beliefs.
This discussion is a good example of that. If you are against that piece of legislation because you think it needlessly protects Monsanto, but you haven't read the bill, nor read an expert's opinion on it, then you are well on your way to voting for the wrong people and passing the wrong amendments. When a lie takes 15 seconds to tell, but it takes 5 minutes to explain why it is a lie, the lie always will win. Seems " Monsanto is evil" is winning this discussion.

Good point. To me, the lie being told is that the USDA and FDA are wholly and completely independent of the influence Monsanto, etc. and reached the conclusion that GMO foods are safe whilst not under said influence.

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An herbicide company selling seeds makes about as much sense as a doctor's office selling cigarettes.

But that's the problem and why all the controversy over GMO -- because none of know which side is lying.

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You prove my point. If someone tells you GMO is evil, it is easy to simply believe it to be true. Much harder to attend a few semesters of botany learning what is really involved in DNA modifications so you can decide if GMO is good or bad based on an educated understanding of what is what.

"I don't understand Wall Street, atom bombs, income tax rules and automatic transmissions and they are all evil, so hybridized seed, GMO and UBC barcodes, also beyond my understanding, must be evil, too." ?

I do not *agree with anything Monsanto says and I surely do not agree with their ethics.
It is a "monster" of a company in my eyes and needs to be kept at bay.
Now, I'm all for capitalism, but when a company deliberately lies, cheats, and steals its way to the top it needs to be stopped

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