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05/16/13, 09:35 PM
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I'd like to see all the politicians hooked up to lie detector machines. And every time they lie, they get a little shock. I think some of those guys would fry themselves to death in short order.
Anybody see the Simpson's episode where the whole Simpson family sat in a circle at a shrink's office and they were hooked up to shockers and could shock each other at will? That'd be pretty fun to do that with say, the Prez, Shrillary, Jay Carney (just because he's a punk) and a few others. Every time one of them said something the other one didn't like, they'd just shock 'em!
Sorry for the thread drift....
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05/17/13, 12:07 AM
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As I did in the mid 1980s when I felt that the one worse thing of our local government were the majority of council members and spent a year exposing dirt on the sitting council and convincing challengers to run against them, I would put my elected representatives at fear of not being re-elected and take the necessary steps to maximize that fear or replace them to benefit the issue I have with them.
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05/17/13, 07:33 AM
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Shrink it.
SHRINK IT!!!
Then most of your suggestions would natuallly follow.
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05/17/13, 11:17 AM
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For every law enacted, two have to go. My dh has wanted this for a long time. He calls it "the law of diminishing attorneys".
I'd like to see a political advertisement channel or internet site. Each candidate and their supporters for whatever office gets a certain amount of time (and that amount only) and can spend only a certain amount of money on their political campaign. And their advertisements all have to be on the one channel or site. When we want to know what they think of themselves we can tune in.
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05/17/13, 11:42 AM
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Allow and encourage the introduction of more parties with middle of the road policies on both sides. The rabid left and right of the Dems and Repubs is now nothing but damaging and divisive. And certainly not what were the origins of both parties. All that happens is stalemate.
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05/17/13, 04:36 PM
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Term limits.
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05/17/13, 06:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by summerdaze
I'd like to see all the politicians hooked up to lie detector machines. And every time they lie, they get a little shock. I think some of those guys would fry themselves to death in short order.
Anybody see the Simpson's episode where the whole Simpson family sat in a circle at a shrink's office and they were hooked up to shockers and could shock each other at will? That'd be pretty fun to do that with say, the Prez, Shrillary, Jay Carney (just because he's a punk) and a few others. Every time one of them said something the other one didn't like, they'd just shock 'em!
Sorry for the thread drift....
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A little shock? How about fry'em!
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05/17/13, 07:45 PM
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All taxes go to local government which has most impact on our daily lives, and where we theoretically have the most oversight.
The state and feds could beg the local government for operating funds, and could only grow as big as the local governments would let them.
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05/17/13, 09:05 PM
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Limit ALL federal govt spending to some small percentage of the National GDP, (like 4-5%), set IN STONE, can't be changed without a national referendum in which 75% of registered voters must approve any increase, ( when is the last time there was a 75% turnout for anything ? ) and GDP to be determined by an independent auditor.
Exceptions permitted for national emergency, and DECLARED war, both limited to some definite window of time, with the 75% of registered voters having to approve any extension.
Cut off their ability to spend, and you'd solve about 90% of the problems. They would have to go home for lack of anything to do.
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05/17/13, 09:07 PM
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I know I'm lumping a few things together, but I would pass a bill that repealed Obamacare, implemented the Fair Tax, and my healthcare plan at the same time.
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05/18/13, 02:50 PM
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I would require Congressmen to be paid slightly over what the average pay is for their area they represent. If they cause wages to go up, their pay goes up. Slightly over the amount as an incentive. NO pay raises voted by Congress for Congress, ever.
I would also require that any Congressman that is voted out or chooses to leave office must have their vote record examined. If they voted against the wishes of the majority of their represented public, they get NO retirement, NO benefits, NO payments of any kind once they're out of office. No perks if they didn't do their job, which is to 'represent the public'. They aren't supposed to make our decisions for us, only to represent our wishes and needs.
Sexual crimes in the military would be charged in a court and there would be no overturning verdicts just because a higher up officer decided it was okay.
Elected officials could only serve a limited number of terms in a row, although they COULD be reelected to office multiple times, they'd just have to skip a term now and then.
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05/19/13, 11:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TnAndy
Limit ALL federal govt spending to some small percentage of the National GDP, (like 4-5%), set IN STONE, can't be changed without a national referendum in which 75% of registered voters must approve any increase, ( when is the last time there was a 75% turnout for anything ? ) and GDP to be determined by an independent auditor.
Exceptions permitted for national emergency, and DECLARED war, both limited to some definite window of time, with the 75% of registered voters having to approve any extension.
Cut off their ability to spend, and you'd solve about 90% of the problems. They would have to go home for lack of anything to do.
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What would you say to a return to the Gold Stranded?
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05/21/13, 11:26 PM
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People focus on this or that little program, but they fail to understand the big picture and basic concepts. So we fight and quibble, even though we share the same underlying false beliefs. We're like pro wrestlers that appear to be enemies, but work for the same company.
First, humans are animals, and like to band together with this or that group/party/gang and impose their will on others and seek money and power. It is easier to do through government, because government can use force to take from others to pay for whatever war or welfare or program you want.
Second, the news media and government schools promote government as the solution to all our problems. Through government war and welfare, we are told we can occupy the world to eliminate the bad guys, keep our kids off drugs, and provide for our every need. It is hard to overcome this brainwashing.
Of course, to pay for this, we have to take from others by force, violating their rights. Which is ironic, because protecting our rights is supposed to be the basic function of government. We were founded as a Republic, in which the majority could not vote to take from the minority, because the Constitution provided restraint, but this no longer applies.
Now if too much is taken, the people will rebel, so government has devised ways to take without the people feeling robbed. One way is the payroll tax withholding system, so workers don't notice the money being stolen. They even thank the government for their rebate like it was a gift! The other way to take from us is through the money printing system.
If they can't tax enough, just have the Federal Reserve print the money out of thin air. More dollars in circulation make each worth less, which is why prices go up. Few citizens understand this concept, so it is a brilliant way to fund unlimited war and welfare without complaint. The inflation tax hits us all.
Look at charts of government spending and notice a dramatic increase after 1971 when Nixon took us off the gold standard. If no gold or other commodity is required to be in reserve to exchange for dollars, money printing can be unlimited. And therefore no reason to restrict spending.
Endless money for defense contractors, farmers, bureaucrats. Endless money for student loans and healthcare, and then we wonder why the prices go up!
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05/22/13, 03:02 AM
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A flat rate sales tax for people, business and churches. Only food and medicine exempted.
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05/22/13, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Yvonne's hubby
You do recall little skirmishes in our history that relied primarily upon defense right?? Let me remind you who invaded the southern states, who tried and failed miserably to defend south Vietnam and south Korea? In more recent times we "defended" Kuwait, and then had to go back in and actually invade Iraq to solve the problem. Seems like we do better when we take the fight to the "other guys" capitol.
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No more foreign interventionist policy. Cut military by 50% minimum. Focus on a smaller military for defense, not offense.
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I am with Darntootin on this one if we stopped foreign intervention that would mean less wars. Yvonne's hubby talks about defense and then mentions several foreign interventions. Clearly Darntootin is talking about defense operations in our country.
After the founding of our country and the American Revolution we were invaded/attack on US soil/territory during the War of 1812 and WWII,
We currently spend trillions on offensive capabilities and to project military power anywhere in the world while crying about not having enough money.
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05/22/13, 07:57 AM
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The only thing I would change about government is it's unwavering tendency to un-educate the people, to the point of their eventual enslavement for conducting their affairs in ignorance.
The government is not the problem, otherwise.
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05/23/13, 11:14 AM
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term limits on "ALL" elected offices. Appointed ones too.
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05/28/13, 02:43 PM
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Repeal the 17th Amendment
As a result of the direct election of Senators, states are nothing more than jurisdictional administrators for federal laws. The 17th amendment removed the one avenue for influence that was granted to the state. The distinctive differences in governance between the states and the federal government have been lost. And how much has it really helped with reducing corruption?
Proportional appointments for the Electoral College
The two party system that we are stuck with is re-enforced so drastically by the "all or nothing" elections for the Electoral College. If each state would change this one thing, the possibilities for 3rd or 4th parties would bloom. It might take a coalition of parties to accumulate the majority of electoral votes, but the whole red state/blue state mess would go away. But because this would cut into the R/D influence, the political parties would oppose it.
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05/30/13, 09:03 PM
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Mandatory sterilization for any person who applies for Welfare.
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05/30/13, 09:05 PM
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Mandatory drug tests for anyone elected to public office. Somebody's smoking somthing.
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