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02/14/13, 08:14 AM
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Everybody loves a beautiful and /or useful horse. But the fact is many horses need to be put down.I would prefer that people who own them have a right to profit by selling them for meat.And I believe strongly in being practical. If the meat was cheap you bet I would buy it.
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02/14/13, 08:23 AM
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It's funny but I find veal more disgusting than horse meat, but somehow we made it acceptable to raise babies in this fashion .. In Germany horses lived long lives even if they were destined for food, far more respectful if you ask me. Grandma alsoo used to tell us that older horses were better meat so you know they lived out a life(work or leisure). I do get the cultural thing though.
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It's harder for people who have ridden horses and have had their foolish rear ends saved by an athletic or sensible horse to think of eating them. Also there are cultures that where horses were more romanticised such as Britain or Ireland. A buddy is more than a meatsource.
I have alway felt (and it is strictly emotional) that an animal that has worked for me deserves care. So no eating of dogs or horses for me. Even my older goats who have produced kids for me get retirement as long as I can manage it.
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02/14/13, 09:45 AM
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In Rome last winter the boys (8 and 11) and I got a big juicy horse steak at the market (21€\kg! Some of the most expensive meat there!) and cooked it up back at our apartment. It was absolutely delicious, no funky smells or tastes. We'd eat it again in a heart beat. The boys mention all the time wanting to eat more horse when we go back!
I told them maybe we would get that pony after all....
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02/14/13, 11:39 AM
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It's harder for people who have ridden horses and have had their foolish rear ends saved by an athletic or sensible horse to think of eating them. Also there are cultures that where horses were more romanticised such as Britain or Ireland. A buddy is more than a meatsource.
I have alway felt (and it is strictly emotional) that an animal that has worked for me deserves care. So no eating of dogs or horses for me. Even my older goats who have produced kids for me get retirement as long as I can manage it.
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I don't have a problem with you feeling that way. The problem I have is when a bunch of people that think the same way gang up and try to force me to think the same way.
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02/14/13, 12:15 PM
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i have no problem to eat a pig, a cow or a horse. But i grow up with it and so it is not a big deal for me. We eat in germany boar too... (and a ton of other meats *lol)
(but i don't would eat my own horse  )
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02/14/13, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by where I want to
It's harder for people who have ridden horses and have had their foolish rear ends saved by an athletic or sensible horse to think of eating them. Also there are cultures that where horses were more romanticised such as Britain or Ireland. A buddy is more than a meatsource.
I have alway felt (and it is strictly emotional) that an animal that has worked for me deserves care. So no eating of dogs or horses for me. Even my older goats who have produced kids for me get retirement as long as I can manage it.
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While I agree with you, I'm not that way. I think horse slaughterhouses should be here in the states. I think the transport of the horses elsewhere is too hard on them. I feel the same way about all slaughterhouses- ALL animals need to be treated humanely- and long transport is not humane, in my opinion.
But back to those who own horses.. I got my first when I was 12, but only after I convinced my parents I was serious about wanting one by training our nearly 2 year old steer to ride. I made a bridle out of his halter, and a saddle out of a rug. He liked to peal me off the side of the barn every chance he had, but I still rode him daily.
He also tasted mighty good when we ate him!
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02/14/13, 01:25 PM
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One big problem is that here, horses are not RAISED as meat animals, so there are no restrictions as to medications that can be used.
Many drugs are not allowed for FOOD animals, but are commonly used on "pets"
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02/14/13, 02:13 PM
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I agree with Pancho
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My friend lives in Quebec (French Canadian) and they eat it all the time there.
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02/14/13, 03:22 PM
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I have no problem with eating horse. When I was a kid, one of my uncle's had a rank mare, nasty and hateful to any living creature that got near her. After family discussion of what to do with her, the decision was made that the only use she'd be to anyone was as meat. On the table was the only way anyone liked her.
I'd eat horse again, but I won't eat my horses unless there is absolutely nothing else available.
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02/14/13, 05:14 PM
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good point BFF.
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02/14/13, 08:17 PM
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One big problem is that here, horses are not RAISED as meat animals, so there are no restrictions as to medications that can be used.
Many drugs are not allowed for FOOD animals, but are commonly used on "pets"
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I never thought about that.
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02/15/13, 10:20 AM
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I would never eat horse knowing what I know about all the meds put in horses and some don't leave for longer than 30 days..
but if raised as meat and had the same restrictions as cattle raised for meat, then yeah, I have no problem with it. I have no romantic notions about horses even though I love them and have ridden for over 35 years now. I have raised them, bred them, trained them, sold them, shown them and through all that time, never have even thought much about eating them as there is so many cows out there specifically raised for beef.
Hunger can be a great modifier of what one will and will not eat. I'd say horse would look pretty good to a person who is hungry.
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02/15/13, 04:34 PM
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Common sense would say don't eat sick or over medicated animals. I view an animal as there for a purpose, could be to ride, guard the house, or squirt out eggs for breakfast. I assume the responsibility to take care of their needs while they're still kicking, I expect to gain the benefits once they're under the knife. Cow, pig, goat or horse don't make a lot of difference, they're all made out of meat.
So, I'm curious if anyone here has had a filly cheesteak.
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02/16/13, 09:32 AM
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It's legal to eat horse here. I think one of the issues was bute, but I'm fairly certain that doesn't even end up in the meat if properly butchered. Either way, that's a bute issue, not a horse issue.
I haven't had it yet. It's "icky" so nobody sells it just yet.
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It is also legal here in the USA also since 2011 when Congress lifted the ban~!
But no slaughter houses yet are doing any processing horses for human consumption. But for two years now it has been legal in the USA.
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02/18/13, 05:59 AM
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I would rather see unwanted horses and donkeys eaten than dumped out to become someone else's problem. In the past year we have had 2 horses and 3 donkeys dumped. They wander around the area because no one wants them and the state says they can't do anything about them. They are a nuisance to many of my neighbors as they try to break into pastures trying to get food from their horses. Blessings, Kat
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02/18/13, 09:48 AM
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The slaughter ban has caused more suffering than the proponents had any idea. Without the plants, horses are transported long distances to facilities in Mexico or Canada. And like the above poster said...without those meat buyers-many horses are being dumped.
It is so stupid to not to process them. JMO. And I am a horse lover, have a sassy old stallion up at the barn, too. But I am a realist-where did these 1.5 million extra horses GO?
They didn't go anywhere.
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02/18/13, 10:15 AM
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The slaughter ban has caused more suffering than the proponents had any idea. Without the plants, horses are transported long distances to facilities in Mexico or Canada. And like the above poster said...without those meat buyers-many horses are being dumped.
It is so stupid to not to process them. JMO. And I am a horse lover, have a sassy old stallion up at the barn, too. But I am a realist-where did these 1.5 million extra horses GO?
They didn't go anywhere.
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But now that the ban has been lifted still no plants have started back up which is sad.
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02/18/13, 01:32 PM
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I'm not opposed to eating horse meat. Like someone on here said, I'd rather eat a horse that's lived a long life than to eat veal (still, I love lamb, so who knows, right?).
One issue I have is that, since the animal has had the opportunity to grow to maturity, they seem a good deal more "self aware" than the average cow... I've seen some of the videos on horse slaughter, and it's a horrific scene. It seems as they go straight to exsanguination... not even the courtesy of a shot to the head with a captive bolt stunner. And that, I definitely don't like. I've heard some say that shehita for kosher and whatever the equivalent is for hallal are supposed to be painless, but there are simply too many videos out there showing animals wracked in pain to believe that.
So yes, if dispatched quickly and humanely, I'd have no problem with it.
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02/20/13, 09:48 AM
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The 'bolt' is humane if used properly, so I have heard. I haven't done hardly any slaughtering in my life. A deer, raccoon, a few ducks is it.
Horses should be slaughtered for food or glue or other byproducts at the end of their life. It is simply foolish to kill them and then incinerate or bury the carcass simply because of emotional appeals that have no factual basis.
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02/20/13, 10:31 AM
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Back in the early 50's my grandma bought Hills horse meat for her cat. It came frozen in a blue and white box. I remember it as being very lean, kind of a blueish red and a little bloody. I suppose back then there were still people going from horses to tractors and a lot of old workhorses went to Hills.
She had a "special fork" that she dished it out with. She used it for Puss and Boots too. I always thought it looked kind of scary.
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