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12/20/12, 09:47 AM
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Our now sitting President was a drug user.
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12/20/12, 09:55 AM
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12/20/12, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by scooter
Our now sitting President was a drug user.
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And a possible dealer so he and the Choom gang could spliff up.....how else could you pay for drugs when you've never had a job.......Unless Frank Marshall Davis was paying him for....................
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12/20/12, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by deaconjim
It's amusing how so many people on the left take a simplistic view of a situation and think they know what is going on in someone else's mind.
I am a Christian and believe everyone sins but can repent and be forgiven.
What Nugent did was reprehensible and shameful, and he has said as much himself. His words and deeds since then show a sincere appreciation for our military men and women, part of which he says is to help make up for his "shameful actions" during the Vietnam War.
By his words and actions I believe he is genuinely sorry he did that. I have done things in the past I am not particularly proud of now and I am grateful that people and God are willing to forgive me. I am willing to give him the same consideration regardless of his political leanings.
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Once a Marine always a Marine.Once a draft dodger always a draft dodger.
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12/20/12, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by deaconjim
It's amusing how so many people on the left take a simplistic view of a situation and think they know what is going on in someone else's mind.
I am a Christian and believe everyone sins but can repent and be forgiven.
What Nugent did was reprehensible and shameful, and he has said as much himself. His words and deeds since then show a sincere appreciation for our military men and women, part of which he says is to help make up for his "shameful actions" during the Vietnam War.
By his words and actions I believe he is genuinely sorry he did that. I have done things in the past I am not particularly proud of now and I am grateful that people and God are willing to forgive me. I am willing to give him the same consideration regardless of his political leanings.
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wow! (wink  )
this may or may not clear some things up in the knee jerk judger dept
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/nugent.asp
And this is purely anecdotal(I mean, I was there), but at his concert he honors vets and enlisted, has them stand up and the crowd goes bonkers(in a good way), and it's not just a passing mention either. The love going between was def there. Far as I'm concerned he has done real well "repenting" and using his gifts to chaplain the troops.
Yeah I get accused of being a Ted groupie(so bite me!), but I gotta say, I have learned a lot of good things from him, "mystical flight of the arrow" and all that. All of us are messed up. Do we own it and try to make good, or try to hide it and be all righteous and frankly, everybody can still smell it.
The best preachers are the ones who know they are sinners. And I'll even add they did their sinning with their best effort...
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12/20/12, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by zant
So does this mean your irrelevant post equating some rock guy with a dangerous felon is equally or more irrelevant...but actually it's all irrelevant in it's irrelevantcy....
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ehhh, it is as relevant as yours is, so I guess it is irrelevant.
Then again, if it is all irrelevant in it's irrelevancy what is relevant?
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12/20/12, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by scooter
Our now sitting President was a drug user.
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Was now that's interesting.
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Originally Posted by deaconjim
This is old news, and since then he has described that as his "shameful acts" during the Vietnam War. He has readily admitted what he did and is rightfully ashamed. I won't hold that against him.
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I have spent some time with Ted.Did get embarassed my wife telling him what she thought of his music.He took it well.
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Wait... a Rock Singer from the 60's and 70's was less than honorable?
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Yea imagine that!
Me I was protesting the War in 1969 along with my friends and joining USMC in 1970 
big rockpile
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12/20/12, 12:52 PM
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O/T ...
I got into a fist fight with Ted in 1981 at the Joker lounge in Co.Bluffs ,Ia.
He called my guitar a peice of crap
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12/20/12, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by J.T.M.
O/T ...
I got into a fist fight with Ted in 1981 at the Joker lounge in Co.Bluffs ,Ia.
He called my guitar a peice of crap
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he can call my guitar a piece of crap any time he wants. Just as long as he sez it real close. To my face Betcha he does it again 
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12/20/12, 02:09 PM
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12/20/12, 02:20 PM
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Let's see.....he was 18 years old....pursuing dreams of fame and fortune....the peace and love era was phasing over into drugs, sex and rock n roll....how harshly you wanna judge an 18 year old kid for their actions during some pretty turbulent times? If he owns it now and admits he was wrong, I can get over it.
...when it's said and done I'll have my fun, I can chew anything I bite......
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12/20/12, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by wwubben
Once a Marine always a Marine.Once a draft dodger always a draft dodger.
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If that's the way you feel, you are welcome to feel that way. I've had to be forgiven much, so I have a tendency to return the favor.
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12/20/12, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by wwubben
Once a Marine always a Marine.Once a draft dodger always a draft dodger.
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You know what would be funny? If you said that and you voted for Bill Clinton... wouldn't that be funny?
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12/20/12, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by seedspreader
You know what would be funny? If you said that and you voted for Bill Clinton... wouldn't that be funny?
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I have voted for several draft dodgers but they are still draft dodgers.What does my vote have to do with them being a draft dodger?
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12/20/12, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by deaconjim
If that's the way you feel, you are welcome to feel that way. I've had to be forgiven much, so I have a tendency to return the favor.
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What did Ted need to be forgiven for exactly?
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12/20/12, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by wwubben
I have voted for several draft dodgers but they are still draft dodgers.What does my vote have to do with them being a draft dodger?
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That must be high character trait that you like then! Good on you! I assume you like Ted for being a draft dodger then.
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12/20/12, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wwubben
What did Ted need to be forgiven for exactly?
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I thought it was pretty obvious we were talking about draft dodging.
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12/21/12, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by seedspreader
That must be high character trait that you like then! Good on you! I assume you like Ted for being a draft dodger then.
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You sometimes have to make a choice between the lessor of two evils when you vote.Sadly the draft dodger sometimes wins.
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12/21/12, 08:00 AM
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Ya, all worrieing about Nuges Nam issues, but noone cares about Obamas fake Selective Service app.
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12/21/12, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 7thswan
Ya, all worrieing about Nuges Nam issues, but noone cares about Obamas fake Selective Service app.
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Funny how that works, isn't it...
They have to go into the past to find dirt on someone not running for office, but refuse to look at the evidence of a criminal in office.
There is enough dirt on Obama with his known association with Ayers the bomber, yet that is alright..
Or his known association with devout communists, yet that is alright.
They have to dig in the past of Ted and bring up what many of us knew already.. They fail to see that he "made amends" and has gone above and beyond to correct the mistakes of his youth..
Unlike the Hanoi whore...
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