Microchip with HC
 

Ok, all you Goverment Healthcare lovers. Will you agree to be microchipped?
http://polidics.com/news/another-hid...-implants.html

snopes.com: Health Care Reform Legislation Requires Microchip Implantation?

Try again!

It won't mess up folks tattoo of O will it :cowboy: Most won't believe it until they go to a doctor and they say you aren't in our system :yawn:

Isn't Snopes those two with three computers in a trailer park :eek:

Do you get all your 'news' at social networking sites?

I asked a question-will you agree to be microchipped? Not if the article is true or not, the HC bill is still open to any and all changes by Sebilius(sp). Will you be marked/chipped if the Goverment would tell/require you to?

Hey I'll be the first to answer, not Christian so this may not be from the ones that should post but no I would not be chipped, I am not an animal that needs to be ID'ed.

Their answer (or in this particular case; lack thereof)
 

speaks volumes. When it is so easy to overlook the unconstitutional means for the feds to become entangled in strictly state's issues, it isn't that much of a stretch to take "the mark!", without having any effect on one's conscience:eek:.

It would certainly be a world's first if American government suggested such a thing. I seriously doubt they would suggest it though.

I love my government health care, we've had it here for going on 50 years. Not worried about being required to get microchipped - they would never suggest it and even if they did nobody would agree to it. I don't know of any country with government healthcare that has done such a thing and can't imagine that anyone anywhere would agree to it.

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Yes, you asked a question. One not based in reality with no real reason on why I would be asked to implant a micro chip. Then you used a false story as, well I don't really no why you posted that story.

To confirm a known answer :cowboy:

To plan a head for trips to town because the ones on the left going for their chip could create traffic jams :hysterical:

When I think of the number of times republicans have resorted to false stories to make their case, I wonder if they have anything genuine to offer. After all, the only reason why they would resort to tactics like that is because they don't believe that the truth will be persuasive enough.

It doesn't end with false stories either. Republicans resort to half-truths, exaggerations, and out-of-context quotes much more often that they democratic counterparts. To drive the point home, they have setup their own television network to launch misinformation campaigns, then pass it off as "fair & balanced" news.

The entire republican platform absolutely depends on the acceptance of any argument made on face value, even if what they see and read tells them that it's not true. The amazing thing about it is that it seems to be more effective than even they dreamed it might.

There is a lot of discussion about this issue,and If interested people can look at many videos. I am curious just how far people will trust the Government, You are trusting them with your life if you accept their HC and loss of Freedoms. You will defend something that is indefensible to many of us and I'd like to where you would draw the line.

If a microchip was just for my health care info and served a real purpose, I have no problem. Many people voluntarily carry that information already to save their lives due to medical conditions.

Why would you be against it?

I however do not see this as a reality that they would force this on people.

Chip Implants Linked to Animal Tumors - washingtonpost.com

No. I've got enough cancer risk already, thank you very much.

Are you really trying to create a rational argument around a complete falsehood...a lie?

This thread is truly mind boggling.

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I will never allow the government to microchip me or my family. Whether it's in the bill or not, as a Christian I do believe it will happen eventually. I even took issue with microchipping dogs. :)

I'm against it because I don't think the government should have any right to implant anything into my body, much less information that could be used to track me. I'm also against it because it is too close to what the Bible describes as the mark of the beast. I don't know if you're a Christian or not, but I am, and I will refuse to take any mark from the government, be it an implant or a tattoo.

I'm against about 99% of what the Government wants for us. I believe there is a lot to learn about others opinions, Freedom is a matter of opinion these days and not a matter of the Constitution anymore.(too me anyway)

So what will you do if they mandate it? Leave the country?

I keep hearing the government, the government over and over. The government is made up of people voted in by the citizens. You have the ability to make yourself heard and if enough people agree with you to change the laws.

If people are going to be treated like cattle they should be microchipped.

LOL, there are a lot that don't seem to be able to do anything without their herd..

People voted in a Person that they knew nothing about, it was hidden from them and they were told lies. Ya, now we have what we got,he did what he wanted and 70% of the people did not want HC when it was put on us. I made my self heard, I've marched on Washinton,Phoned,written and protest everyyear localy. I certanly will not go along with a mandate to chip me,or carry a chiped card. There are still people in this country that will stand up to the Goverment, I'm just woundering what will make it start.
I've said before, when OJ got off and Obama got voted in,my understanding of my Fellow Citizens was rocked to the core. I Belive there in no end to what Obama could possibly do to us.

Do you think you know a lot about the persons you will vote for this time around?You may not be very well informed if you base your opinion on sources as the one you used for this thread.

Good Grief man, the link was to get the idea of what some people are thinking. I try to look at both sides-crazy,factual,whatever.

When I think of the number of times that Obama stated that
 

[QUOTE=Nevada;5994504]When I think of the number of times republicans have resorted to false stories to make their case, I wonder if they have anything genuine to offer. After all, the only reason why they would resort to tactics like that is because they don't believe that the truth will be persuasive enough.

It doesn't end with false stories either. Republicans resort to half-truths, exaggerations, and out-of-context quotes much more often that they democratic counterparts. To drive the point home, they have setup their own television network to launch misinformation campaigns, then pass it off as "fair & balanced" news.

The entire republican platform absolutely depends on the acceptance of any argument made on face value, even if what they see and read tells them that it's not true. The amazing thing about it is that it seems to be more effective than even they dreamed it might.[/QUOTE]
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his administration would be the most open & transparent of any that had come before it and listened to him "selling" his healthcare program; 'promising' that it would not be a taxed set-up. . .and then the scotus rules that it WILL be. . . .well, you can see how your precious integrity sits on this side of the fence! The question was asked (without regard if such were possible & we've all seen the impossible has already happened this past week) if you would 'agree' to be microchipped as a requirement to participating in Obamadoesntcare?

I'll go one better; instead of a microchip, would you accept a bar-code tatooed either on your forehead or to the back of your hand in invisible ink that only 'shows' up under a special reader?

All we want to know, is how many will take the mark if the gooberment requires it of their 'good' citizens?

Guess I would just have to break the law if they mandated it.

I believe that if the sole purpose of an imbedded MC would be to make getting services easier, then a lot of people would opt out, but what happens when being MC'd is the absolute condition upon which one can function on any reasonable level within a society?

What if being MC'd was required to:

• get a job
• keep the job you already have
• purchase goods (anything)
• own land/property
• obtain medical care on any level

the list can go on and on...

Yes, there would be those who refuse it at all costs and would rather die than be MC'd, but I suspect most would eventually accept it, especially if the cost of their morals and aspirations exceed their needs/desires.

I believe being MC'd is part of the logical progression of technology. Do I like the idea of having some chip implanted in my body JUST so I can purchase/consume...no, absolutely not!

At this point, I honestly don't KNOW if I'd agree to be MC'd. I'd like to be able to sit here and say with absolute certainty that I'd take the high road and refuse it, but until faced with it, all I can do is ponder the implications.

Um, if this is just a fallacy, then why does Google bring up a page with quite a few articles about being microchipped and how it's in the works, and it's from reputable sources, like national newspapers and such? And it's based in healthcare, how they can keep their records updated. Let me see if I can find the link again.

Well, I found something better, but it confuses me. I will have to look over the text of the law again. Apparently here is the full text of the law. I'm not trying to debunk that first article listed, but it says on pg. 1004 of the law it talks about RFID microchips, and there's just not that many pages in the law! I still do not doubt at all that the microchip thing is in the works, because it has been for some time. It was first started with the military here in the U.S. and in Alzheimers patients.

Just for the record: I don't trust the government. I obey as long as it does not interfere with my faith, and if it violates my Constitutional rights, I let EVERYBODY know about it, because if there's one thing I have as a special talent and maybe my ONE special talent... I got a big mama butt and a big fat mouth. Both of those have been useful in getting care for my daughter and protecting my daughter when need be. I believe the fact that this law makes signing up for healthcare MANDATORY violates my Constitutional rights and freedoms and IS a new tax.

So, NO, I will not be letting anyone put a chip in me or in my family. It IS the mark of the beast, and at that point they will either arrest me, or I will go off the grid and they will have to hunt for me and haul me in. At which point, I will be one of those REALLY annoying people singing Jesus songs as loud as I can until they knock me out or kill me. They will WANT to kill me. I will pick the same song and sing it over and over and over and over and over and over........ Being annoying... is FUN!

I think I would be stubborn enough to try it without the MC.

I don't hae a job.
Sure don't want to get or keep a job.
I already own my home and land.
Have a guarantee of medical care for life.
Can grow most everything I need.

I would give it a good try.

I did read the bill, I admit that the way it was written was a jigsaw puzzel. I swear that it was a mess --imagine not just having footnotes in the body of the text but they were referring to parts and other agencies. But my fav was the BLANK PAGES. Who know what will be written on those pages. It was written to prevent understanding and to build frustration.

I do know that in the end (heck just a few pages to be honest) I was looking at key words. Chips is in it. There are a lot of person exempt. I think that if you are interested in not going with this mandate seek out being exempt. We are still allowed to belong to any faith.

My income would allow a "free ride" but I do not want a free ride I want freedom.

I just pulled up page 1004 of the law and it talks about ammendments and how the bill is to be treated in the other house. It has nothing to do with microchips.

Edit: I then put "chip", "microchip" and RFID into the search box at the top of the page and nothing came up.

Actually, to most Christians, this is not a new idea for us. Many of us realize that this is coming. May not be here now, but the Bible tells us that in the last days we'll have to have a mark to buy or sell, ect.

A lot of people felt that way about Social Security numbers at first also. I think the answer to how many would refuse to get chipped under those circumstances lies in the number of people today who don't have a Social Security number, since you need a SS number to do most of those things. It's likely that you don't even know anyone who doesn't have a SS number.

"Head em up, move em out"!!!

can you please back up your wild statements with atleast one link or do you just (know)this carp to be true

LOL

That's good coming from you

Found that YELLOWCAKE link yet?

Not necessarily true. . .
 

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However I do know of an "acting" president, who has a ss# that was issued
to a long deceased Conneticut man who had moved to Hawaii!!!:bash:

I know a few that have never had a SS number and never will.
Also know some who have more than one SS number.

I knew a couple that had someone else's SS.