Have I Missed More on Zimmerman ??

time · #61 04/20/12, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ryanthomas

And Martin's mom has been saying in interviews for weeks that she wanted an apology, but when Zimmerman's attorney reached out to them to speak in private, they declined. I think it was a trap to get him to apologize in court or at least in public and hopefully admit guilt. Since he didn't admit guilt, they're saying he's "insincere."

Never say "I'm sorry" if you are accused.

His attorney dropped the ball on that one, IMO.

There is no way to win public opinion. If you do not say anything, your a cold fish, but nothing can be used against you. If you do say something, they will say it is and admission or that you do not mean it and are being manipulative, and they will try to twist it to a jury.

ryanthomas · #62 04/20/12, 09:06 PM

From his attorney's comments afterward, it sounded like he strongly advised against it. But Zimmerman seems too naive, like he really thought it would help the family get some closure instead of being used against him. I hope for his sake that his experience in court today taught him a lesson.

gapeach · #63 04/26/12, 02:37 PM

The world’s most famous "white Hispanic" is part black
George Zimmerman receives an infusion of nuance from the media.
by John Hayward
04/26/2012
The world’s most famous "white Hispanic" is part black - HUMAN EVENTS

sweetbabyjane · #64 04/26/12, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gapeach

The world’s most famous "white Hispanic" is part black
George Zimmerman receives an infusion of nuance from the media.
by John Hayward
04/26/2012
The world’s most famous "white Hispanic" is part black - HUMAN EVENTS

Interesting article. I guess that would make him a white-hispanic-black?

SBJ

ryanthomas · #65 04/26/12, 03:16 PM

Or a white Hispanic Uncle Tom.

Sonshine · #66 04/26/12, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearfootfarm

I thought it was pretty low the way Martin's lawyer, Crump, complained about the apology as being "unfair" and "self serving", but there has been little talk about the prosecutor Corey, having a "prayer meeting with Trayvon's 'sweet parents'"

I watched the bail hearing and I don't know how anyone could not see that he was sincere in his apology to the parents for the loss of their son. A person would have to have been blind not to see that Zimmerman really regretted what happened.

Sanza · #67 04/27/12, 01:41 AM

Maybe a whabaa - white hispanic american black african american

Back to seriousness....has it every been explained why the police never notified Trayvons parents about his death and that they found him with their own searches 3 days later, or has that story been rebutted also?
Couldn't this case against Z be thrown out because of sloppy police bungling? I'm sure his lawyer could find something to make the police report look bad/incomplete and not usable in court.

Darren · #68 04/27/12, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sanza

Maybe a whabaa - white hispanic american black african american

Back to seriousness....has it every been explained why the police never notified Trayvons parents about his death and that they found him with their own searches 3 days later, or has that story been rebutted also?
Couldn't this case against Z be thrown out because of sloppy police bungling? I'm sure his lawyer could find something to make the police report look bad/incomplete and not usable in court.

That's something that has nver been explained. The police were 300' from Trayvon's father's fiance home until 2:00 am. the father and the fiance were out that night. I'm wondering if they returned home before or after the police investigation ended. The father's story about thinking Trayvon went off with a friend always seemed odd to me.

I could be wrong. But Trayvon was sent with his father to a different city to keep him away from his friends. I'v been wondering if some parenting issues were involved. Perhaps the police tried but could not reach Trayvon's mother. The father and mother were divorced. Unless Trayvon carried some ID with an address, I'm not sure how the police could have located his parents.

At 17 would Trayvon have had a driver's license? I know that was mentioned as a reason the media got his weight wrong. I never read any confirmation. When can kids get a learners permit in Florida?

Darren · #69 04/27/12, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ryanthomas

From his attorney's comments afterward, it sounded like he strongly advised against it. But Zimmerman seems too naive, like he really thought it would help the family get some closure instead of being used against him. I hope for his sake that his experience in court today taught him a lesson.

Zimmerman was a choirboy who participated willingly and accompanied his mother on her charity work. I doubt he ever thought he would have to use his firearm to kill someone when he originally bought it to defend himself against a dog. It's a shame the Reuter's story wasn't written earlier before the rest of the media went into attack mode on Zimmerman. What the media did to Zimmerman borders on criminal.

The more we learn about Zimmerman, the more it shows how the media defamed him. I'm glad people have contributed to his legal defense and living expenses. If the media keeps up the coverage, hopefully the contributions will continue.

pancho · #70 04/27/12, 08:55 AM

I noticed some reports mentioned that the skittles and drink that Martin supposedly went to the store to buy wasn't found. Neither was an ID.

Some have said that Martin went to his father's girlfriend's house and came back.

Sonshine · #71 04/27/12, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sanza

Maybe a whabaa - white hispanic american black african american

Back to seriousness....has it every been explained why the police never notified Trayvons parents about his death and that they found him with their own searches 3 days later, or has that story been rebutted also?
Couldn't this case against Z be thrown out because of sloppy police bungling? I'm sure his lawyer could find something to make the police report look bad/incomplete and not usable in court.

Investigation of the death of Trayvon Martin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Following the shooting, Martin's body was transported to the morgue and was tagged as a John Doe.[32] The day following the shooting, after calling the Missing Persons Unit, Martin's father was visited by the police and informed that his son was dead.[33]

Martin's family criticized the police department for not identifying their son more quickly and also for not asking neighbors if they recognized him.[34] The Washington Post notes a police report “that was completed at 3:07 a.m. on Feb. 27 lists Martin’s full name, city of birth, address and phone number.” However, Martin's father was not notified of his son's death until after he reported him missing when he did not return home by the next day.

According to Martin's father, Tracy Martin, when the family asked why Zimmerman had not been arrested, the police responded that he had a "squeaky-clean record" and they respected his educational background in criminal justice. However, Sanford City Manager, Norton Bonaparte released a statement disputing Tracy Martin's claim. Bonaparte stated that in one of the initial meetings with Martin, the father was told by an investigator that Zimmerman is the one who portrayed himself to be "squeaky clean". He went on to say that, "We are aware of the background information regarding both individuals involved in this event." "We believe Mr. Martin may have misconstrued this information."[35]

Bearfootfarm · #72 04/27/12, 09:09 AM

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Back to seriousness....has it every been explained why the police never notified Trayvons parents about his death and that they found him with their own searches 3 days later, or has that story been rebutted also?

The body was released to the funeral home 36 hours after the shooting
The family knew where he was

ryanthomas · #73 04/27/12, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Darren

That's something that has nver been explained. The police were 300' from Trayvon's father's fiance home until 2:00 am. the father and the fiance were out that night. I'm wondering if they returned home before or after the police investigation ended.

I think his dad said they got home around 11:00 and didn't notice any of the police activity. That could be believable, since it may have only been a few people left processing the scene by that time, probably not ten marked cop cars with lightbars blazing.