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People constantly make the mistake of thinking the two men's weight varied greatly. They ignore that Martin was older than when his height was measured at 6' and Zimmerman had lost weight. That wasn't a near 300 lb man we saw in the police video. At 5' 9" he would have looked like a beach ball if that was the case.

Martin had Zimmerman by 6" in height. Based on what his girl friend said, instead of heading to the house, Martin confronted Zimmerman and probably sucker punched him. When he continued beating Zimmerman when he was on the ground, as witnessed, Martin crossed a line.

And that is the critical one minute that "self defense" actually came into play, and made Zimmerman's actions justifiable.

ALL the witnesses verify that, even if they didn't mean to

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I have no idea as I know nothing about this and refuse to watch it on tv. White people, black people and everyone in between are murdered everyday in this county. The only difference here is that racial ambulance chasers and the media decided to dump 10 tons of TNT on this case and light the match...The American sheeple are dancing around the fire.

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Belfreybat beat me to it; why can't a kid who is visiting his dad go to the corner store for an iced tea and candy at 7 in the evening?????

He can, he just can't try to beat to death a person he meets on his way home.

According to the 911 call that I heard, there was a guy with a white t-shirt on top of the other guy. Zimmerman describes trayvon as wearing a dark hooded sweatshirt.

No more than Zimmerman can get away with murder.

Again, you were not hearing the original 911 call. The eye witness you are trying to quote, unsuccessfully, said Martin was on top and Zimmerman was on the bottom. He heard Zimmerman call for help then thought Zimmerman had died in the attack.

You don't know the facts, clearly, so let me help; There are several witnesses, with several different accounts. One witness states on the 911 call that a man wearing a white t-shirt was on top. Another witness ('John') claims that Zimmerman was on the bottom. Mary Cutcher saw Zimmerman straddling Trayvon after the shot. Another witness describes as 'female' claimed the man who walked away after the shot was on top.

So we can see that this case is very complicated. Voice analysis indicates that the calls for help were not from Zimmerman, but they may not be credible enough to make a difference.

Anyway I hope this helps clear up your confusion of the facts. I know this is an emotional issue and it can be very difficult to set our feelings aside.

Let me help you out again. You are taking the reports of Jackson and Sharpton as real. They are not real.
You should also know about the supposedely voice analysis specialists were not specialists. Again they were inventions of Jackson and Sharpton. The real experts say it was Zimmermen.
Please look for the true reports somewhere other than the new black panther website.

I'm sorry you're having such an emotional response to this incident. Hopefully, time will allow you to put feelings aside and view things more clearly.

Thanks, and I hope you will finally do some research and find out the true facts and rely less on Jackson and Sharpton for your "facts".

There are some who will never accept anything but a guilty verdict.

If he found guilty in state court, they will be somewhat happy other than he won't be receiving the death penalty.

If he is found not guilty, they'll be unhappy, so the feds will try him also.

If he is acquitted there, he might want to buy a lottery ticket or two, because he will be one lucky fellow. He might also consider relocating to another country.

I dont think he stands a chance. Best he can hope for is to get into a prison with a high Hispanic population.

I still have my doubts.

I agree that he shouldnt have been charged because of the false picture the media painted, and public outrage demanded it.


Anderson Cooper had a show about this case today. He had his parents on. I think Z is going to have a hard time. The mother says she is a devout Christian woman.

If thats the case, I think its going to throw a lot of doubt that T is a hoodlum or wanna be hoodlum.

Either way it goes, I think STG laws are going to go away. Thanks to Z. I still think hes an overly paranoid wanna be cop, and was playing that role, and thats where this all came from.

Now the real thugs and rapists can go back to having a field day. Thanks Z, just thanks /sarc.

Trayvons clothing was LIGHTER colored than Zimmermans.
(Zimmerman said it was "gray")

It was dark and raining that night, so the witness (a 13 year old boy) was mistaken about the type of clothing and the exact color.

He was NOT mistaken about which one was on top, since only one had LIGHTER colored clothes


Got links to that?
The only one who got up AFTER the shot was Zimmerman, and the police arrived while the FIRST witness was still on the phone.
I don't believe the witness you're referring to saw ANY of the fight itself, and that is all that really matters

It doesn't matter what happened AFTER the shot, only what occurred BEFORE

The guy that did it says they aren't good enough to be used as evidence

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One of the mother's actions supports the problematic picture of Trayvon including truancy, the discovery of women's jewelry and a possible burglary tool in his backpack, the vandalism which led to the discovery of the jewelry and the marijuana baggie that was the final straw.

The action was her insistance in getting him away from his friends while he was suspended for ten days which set the stage for the confrontation. Was Trayvon hanging with the wrong crowd? In a matter of speaking she sent her son to his death. Martin was a young man that desparately needed supervison at that point in his life. Neither parent met the need.

While his tweets and facebook page could be construed as an adolescent's posturing for his peers, it fits with his problems at school. Trayvon was testing the limits but not in a good way. The mother can quote the Bible all she wants, the defense will have access to a lot of background material on Martin that will be relevant to understand his mindset. While his accounts have been deleted, they've been preserved.

The prosecution will try to conjure up an image of Zimmerman as having a depraved mind, while the defense will be presenting the background material on Martin that paints him as a hoodlum. The toxicology analysis on Martin's blood may provide additional support for the defense if it shows drug usage. If drugs were in his blood, that hurts the picture of Martin as an innocent that the media is pushing.

The mother's own statement that she thought the incident was an accident on national TV didn't help the prosecution. If I was the prosecution I'd keep the parents away from the witness stand. So far they've crapped all over the prosecution's case.

I thought it was proven that that facebook page was not his.

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IIRC, some of the pictures of Trayvon were on all of the accounts linked to him. There was another Trayvon whose account was mistaken for one belonging to the deceased Trayvon. Trayvon also changed his twitter account around New Years and adopted a new nickname. One of the accounts had a picture of one of his tattoos which was his mother's name. The autopsy report should describe the tattoos.

I just think with the emotional climate the media has stirred up, facts arent going to matter to anyone. I dont think 12 impartial jurors can be found unless its people from another country that have never heard of this case.

I bet the prosecutor just sees a chance to make one heck of a name for themself and is going to give it all they can.

The parts about T's behavior's/actions will be minimized substantially.

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