Okla fails in the meth fight

It is only for their own good.
The sooner the people realize there are those so much better at making decisions for them the better.
Just set back and do what they tell you to do.

Unfortunately, it's not going to happen.

Too many people and too many Govt. Bureacracies, make too much money, on the "war on drugs".

They like it just like it is.

Indeed. I believe private companies buying state prisons and demanding 90% occupancy is proof enough of that.

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It's not that simple.

Meth addicts reek havoc, on families, neighborhoods, Government resources - often for years, before they meet their demise.

It is a shame that everybody has to suffer, because of them, but what else is new?

Some burn units have had to close because the hospitals are losing so much money treating uninsured meth lab explosion "victims". I heard on the National Geographic Channel a few weeks ago that Vanderbilt University provides $300 MILLION in charity care every year just to people burned in meth lab explosions.



Just think how many "deserving" people could have had treatment with that much money.

We sure don't want folks with runny noses to be inconvenienced even if it helps the lives of people, we don't think alike at all. Your runny nose .....?

The point we are trying to make, is that it won't save the lives of methheads. It won't do any good at all.

It will only make life harder for everyone else and frankly, we are gettng sick of suffering for everyone else.

If it's harder to get Pseudoephedrine, through cold medicines, becuse it now requires a prescription, they will just use something else, to make meth, like automotive brake cleaner.

They don't care.

Like another poster said, they are bringing truckloads of meth from Mexico anyway.

What all do people think we should ban in our effort to stop drug use?
One might think that drug users and meth lab techs do not have much respect for the law.
They might not obey the law concerning what to use and what they should not buy to produce meth.

So, now it's my responsibilty, to spend my time and money, to go to the doctor to get a script, get to buy medicine, I may not need, to keep methheads from buying cold remedies, in which they will just use some other chemical, anyway.

Unbelieveable logic.

Your point highlights perfectly, the sheer lunacy, of our 45 year old, "war on drugs".

In the end, the trillion$ we have spent fighting it, have accomplised nothing, except, to take away money and rights, from law abiding citizens. Criminals and addicts don't care what they do to get drugs.

Criminalizing and enforcing drug use has not and will not accomplish any real goals. It's education and treatment is the only thing that is going to accomplish anything at all, but those goals are always the lowest priority, or non-existent.

I cannot say what I want to.... at the minimum, the post would be deleted, at worst, I'd be banned.

I say why should I be disconvenienced, because some worthless piece of flesh decides to destroy their worthless body? They've already got regulations where you have pretty please beg a pharmacist to get some of the drugs, and then only enough for a day or two. As a prepper, I like to have years worth of drugs we use or might use, on hand, at all time. It really doesn't seemed to have stopped the meth head cookers and the meth heads from getting their brain killing soul devouring fix. If it's not cooked here, it'll be cooked in mexico.... does it really make a bleepity bleep difference where it's cooked? You can't stop these drug addicts from getting their fix. Some people are just doomed, and there's no helping them.

Don't step on my rights, for some illusionary sense of safety...

This may not make sense, to some of you rich folks, that can go and see a bloody doc, anytime you get a hang nail, but there are some of us, that can't afford 85$ just to walk in the door. Make it prescrip only and who are you helping? No one. Druggies will still get their fix. I, and other poor folks (that are too poor for worthless insurance, and too rich for medicaid/medicare) will not get any medicine at all.

Wanna solve the problem?

Hang each and every person found to be manufacturing the stuff, and anyone that has it in their bloodstream, and it can be proved they've used it more than a month. (wouldn't want to execute someone that was slipped a mickey)

You punish the guilty, not the innocent. I'm innocent, and you want to punish me...

I have basically the same views on firearms.... I want to be able to go to any gun shop, and while filling up on diesel, get a few ammo cans of link-belted .30 cal. machine gun ammo.

I understand, freedom and responsibilities are hard concepts for some to grasp.... apparently almost half the country has given up their freedom, to become slaves of the govt....

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If it were not Meth it would crack or heroin or another drug that is taking the mothers away from the kids. Once you get hooked on a drug any drug is better than not having your favorite. Getting hooked on a drug can only be their first time you try it.

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God must have loved stupid people because he made so many of them.

The war on drugs was never meant to stop the flow of drugs only to change who can and who cannot sell them. It works well for this.

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God must have loved stupid people because he made so many of them.

Are you being serious, or sarcastic?

Can you explain your point a little more?

Right, Punish everyone else for the behavior of others. Explain to me how anyone can even think like that. I think it started with people thinking it is guns that kill people. It's called consequences and addiction. And if people really knew anything about addiction they would know that taking the bottle away from an alcoholic, does not stop them from drinking. They will drink after shave if they have to. I can make a club from a 2X4 and beat someone to death. Should be make access to lumber redistricted also?

Must be the drug companies deep pockets? How about the majority of people appose the idea? If junkies are determined to kill themselves they will. Making it harder for me to buy medication will not change that.

That "cold medicine" was the only thing keeping me on my feet at times, and I had 2 toddlers to keep an eye on.

Right now I have to show my ID to buy it at the pharmacists window and sign for it so that the feds know if too much is being bought. That seems fair to me. Why in the world would more control than that be needed?

No, there is nothing else that works for a severe cold.

Now that the kids are teens I could accept meds that made me sleep, and if I took a different med I could face not sleeping for a couple of nights in a row.

But I could not do that and watch two toddlers.

But it doesn't help these self destructive people, they will find a way.. They have all they need from Mexico..

When do people realize that not everyone can be saved, especially from themselves.. Unless you want to lock them up forever they will find a way..

And no we don't all think alike thank the powers above.. And I don't use OTC cold meds I use herbal.. This is just a ridiculous concept and obviously a nice boon for the doc's in more customers.. and the pharmacies with new items they can mark up, oh yeah better make sure your insurance covers this..

He is right.
Too much money involved in the drug trade. Money not only made by those who manufacture it.
Think about all of the money made by those who are trying to prevent it.
Make a list of all of the things that have been successful at stopping drugs.
Compare it to a list of those who benefit from drugs.
It is real easy to see why the war on drugs is a sham.

Can't people see they are taking jobs away from the American people?
Why should we have to import drugs in from other countries?
People, we are putting people out of work every day and sending their jobs to Mexico.
Help bring jobs back to the U.S.
Do not ban cold medicine.