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Old 12/28/11, 04:49 PM
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I just wanna know what oil is good to use and cook with.
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I use rice bran oil. Excellent for stir fry, etc.
Yes, what Vicki said. Rice bran oil is the best oil for cooking with, probably the healthiest for all general eating purposes and it has a very high smoking point which is a bonus. It does not go rancid as quickly as many other oils do, it's light and pretty much tasteless except for a barely noticeable hint of sweetness to it.

It's hard to find in some places though and may have to be ordered in. The rice bran oil I use is called Golden Rice Bran Oil and it's produced in Thailand. The California Rice Oil Company produces an excellent product and seems to be a favourite in America. Their website has some good information about rice oil. http://www.californiariceoil.com/

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Old 12/28/11, 05:24 PM
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I use sunflower oil for cooking as it can stand high heat. It also is higher in vitamin E than most other oils and has a good percentage of monounsaturated to polyunsaturated oils. I also like peanut oil and it is cheaper than sunflower. I use olive oil in cold dishes and for those that are not cooked on high heat. And I adore coconut oil for many things -- cooking, eating fresh, coco crack, etc.

So, the healthy oils I use in order of preference are:
coconut
sunflower
peanut
olive
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I think people are freaking out thinking it is poison because of a terrible misunderstanding about the erucic acid content in rapeseed.
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Interesting thread...

So, what oils are best?
Is corn oil GM?
Soybeans are estrogen rich as well as GM..right?
If true about the GM nature of canola, that is "out"...so what is left?

Olive oil or animalfats...coconut oil? Peanut,tree nut oils,palm nut...?

Low fat diet is good for you but we need some fats in our diets for proper nutrition.
Actually I would differ on the idea that low fat diets are good for you. But that's a matter of opinion.

Olive oil is good, coconut oil, butter, lard, flax seed oil...... The issue with peanut oil is that some people are allergic.
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Old 12/28/11, 07:04 PM
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Peanut oil is nice because of the very high flash point. You can get that real hot without worrying about burning. That is why peanut oil is used when fonduing.
Coconut oil is also better for popping corn as that also has a much higher flash point and will nut scorch as fast either as the heat to pop corn is really high. Good popcorn poppers pop at 475 to 525 degrees.But as far as Canola oil being bad nope that is so far out there, it isn't even laughable anymore.
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Low fat diet is good for you but we need some fats in our diets for proper nutrition.
Stop and think about it- the more low fat and sugar-free foods that have hit the grocery store shelf, the fatter people have become.

A full 30% of your calories needs to come from fat. If you don't get enough fat, you eat more starch.

The proper amount of fat IN A BALANCED DIET slows the digestion, enables the uptake of more nutrients, and suppresses the appetite.

Of course you need the proper kinds of fats- minimally processed, from both animal and plant sources.

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I think most people don't understand what genetic modification means. They seem to be under the impression that it means it's been chemically altered.

Everything that people eat now comes from genetically modified foods. The only foods that are not genetically modified are wild foods.

Meat animals and birds, plant foods, even the fabrics that clothes are made from have all been genetically modified over the course of decades and even centuries. If they hadn't been genetically modified they would no longer exist.

Chickenista - whatever chickens it is that you raise now - they are from genetically modified stock. If they weren't modified then they would be the same as any other scrawny wild Red Jungle Fowl from India.
Most pro-GMO people don't understand what genetic modification means.

There are two subjects I know more about than any other subjects. One of those is nutrition. The other is poultry genetics.

Jungle fowl were not taken into the laboratory so that their DNA could be shot with gene-guns, nor were they implanted with viruses so that genes from unrelated species could be incorporated into their DNA.

(bear with me...)

Although Darwin missed the mark when he speculated that one species arises from another, he was right in that animals adapt to their environments. This is due to the natural phenomena of genetic drift, which in turn is due to allelic variations (both hidden and visible).

For example, many different species come in both light and dark color phases. A given population will predominate in one or the other according to whether their environment is darker or lighter. This is simply due to the fact that more of one phase survive predator attacks because they blend into their environment better. Since more of that phase survives, more of them breed, passing their genes onto their offspring. If individuals from that population moves, the other phase may begin to predominate.

Of course there are many other examples involving various characteristics that change according to environment and other factors.

For thousands of years, man has taken advantage of the NATURAL GENES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE to create distinctive breeds.

It wasn't until the last few decades that genetic engineering came into being, in which UNNATURAL GENES THAT WERE NEVER THERE are inserted into DNA in the laboratory.
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That was my point. I was being literal. Genetic modification and genetic engineering are not the same thing.
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That was my point. I was being literal. Genetic modification and genetic engineering are not the same thing.
My post is for anyone and everyone who does not understand the difference.
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We fry our turkey with peanut oil and it tastes great!!! But I havent tried it for fryin chicken. I dont recall seeing soy oil in my local grocery store. Is it only sold in the upper states? Or have I missed it?
check your labels. Last time I bought Wesson oil, it was soybean oil.
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Old 12/28/11, 08:52 PM
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IMHO, the more enginered(that includes genetic tampering the un-natural way) and the more processed a product is, the less and less like real food it is and the less healthy and more like junk it is.
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I'm not a rabble rouser on GMO, but...
The whole concept of introduction of a new food into an existing population is fraught with danger. There is pretty good (not perfect, but enough to be interesting) research suggesting that the change for Europeans to a wheat heavy diet created the gluten intolerance issues, and that the focus on cow's milk created the lactose intolerance issues. Many of the early adopters, whether volunteers or forced by hunger, DIED. Those who merely got sick and survived ended up being our ancestors.

Then there is corn/maize. I like my popcorn and I like my tortilla chips, but corn MAY be a potentiator of allergic reactions. Latex allergies are commonly related to latex gloves powdered with cornstarch as the breakpoint. Are there other issues? I think maybe, but I'm not willing to share or go out on a limb, because it is speculative.

My point is, as usual, we are all different. No one size fits all. There COULD be people that will thrive on canola. I know that I wouldn't. I'm all for personal choice and personal responsibility in understanding the outcomes of various choices. However... when someone wants to stuff something down my throat, I'm like a baby force-fed watercress soaked in alum. I'll spit it out and raise a fuss until proper attention is paid.
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yet I can buy a can of garbage soup with enough sodium to kill you.
if this were remotely true there would be so many lawsuits. it may not be "good for you," but it certainly isn't going to kill you unless you've already consumed at least 2# of salt.
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The funny part is people say all the stuff isnt bad for you. Then explain to me why people are dying of everything these days. Why there are so many birth defects, so many weird diseases, and allergies. I mean I read a study that GMO corn was tested to cause allergies, but they approved it anyway
or is it that as a society we've eradicated all the things that would have killed us off before any of the weird stuff had a chance to show up & be wierd? there absolutely is a correlation between allergies & lack of exposure to a wide variety of possible allergens (kids are allergic to plants because they don't go outdoors etc).
not saying it's good for you, because there most definitely is A LOT of crap in the food supply, BUT all of these scientific advancements that increase food yields & decrease spoilage are absolutely the main reason there are 6 billion people in the world. so who do you want to kill off so we can go back to more fragile crops that taste better & spoil more easily?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_napus

Also, aside from the ethical questions relating to GMO crops, do you really want to be eating food that was sprayed with so many herbicides that any normal plants would have died, repeatedly throughout the season?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_napus

Also, aside from the ethical questions relating to GMO crops, do you really want to be eating food that was sprayed with so many herbicides that any normal plants would have died, repeatedly throughout the season?
I grow canola, and I need less herbcides to grow it than ever before. I use less, way less herbicides on my canola, than I do on other crops. And repeatedly through the season? Try once when it is in the coteleydon to three leaf stage. Lets stick with the facts here, not false fears...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_napus

Also, aside from the ethical questions relating to GMO crops, do you really want to be eating food that was sprayed with so many herbicides that any normal plants would have died, repeatedly throughout the season?
Do you wear cotton?
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Old 12/29/11, 01:08 AM
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Do you wear cotton?
Sometimes I do. Some of it is organic, some is not. My pillow is organic cotton. All of the clothes I wear are pre-worn and pre-washed, usually multiple times, when I get them.

And at any rate, it isn't like I am eating my clothing, although I would prefer to have organic cotton only and sustainably humanely grown wool, etc.
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IMHO, the more enginered(that includes genetic tampering the un-natural way) and the more processed a product is, the less and less like real food it is and the less healthy and more like junk it is.
Science has proven "organic" is no better than GMO in any way.
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Old 12/29/11, 01:38 AM
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Science funded by who, Monsanto?
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Science has proven "organic" is no better than GMO in any way.
"Science" ?????
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Old 12/29/11, 01:39 AM
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Then explain to me why people are dying of everything these days
People have been doing that for millions of years.

The only difference now is there are MANY more people, and you HEAR about it more often

You can sit at home and eat nothing but organic rice cakes if you like, but you're still going to die just like everyone else
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