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Old 12/29/11, 05:24 PM
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Lady cat I would love to know where to buy cheap olive oil.
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Old 12/29/11, 05:59 PM
 
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Rape is also not a poison plant, I have grazed sheep and cattle on rape You folks also know that soybeans contain a growth inhibitor?
I don't do soy anything either. I just don't need more estrogen, thank you.
I won't do rapeseed. It is poison in my opinion. In fact I won't even use canola in making oil essences to rub on the skin.
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I don't do soy anything either. I just don't need more estrogen, thank you.
I won't do rapeseed. It is poison in my opinion. In fact I won't even use canola in making oil essences to rub on the skin.
Rapeseed and canola are not the same thing. Canola is edible, and has one of the best if not THE best fatty acid profiles in all of the veg oil world.

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I just thought of a better analogy for those who keep interchanging the two. I would be sorta like me interchanging the milk produced by a jersey milk cow raised fre range, and comparing and saying the milk produced by a holstein, fed and kept indoors all the time. It is simply not the same thing. Yet they are still cows, right. Hmmmm. Rapeseed is b. napus or b. rapa, canola is b. napus or b. rapa, yet what they produce is entirely different. I hope this helps.

When rapeseed was crossed to produce edible oil, it didn't create a new species, it made an edible oil. That simple.
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Old 12/29/11, 07:57 PM
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I just thought of a better analogy for those who keep interchanging the two. I would be sorta like me interchanging the milk produced by a jersey milk cow raised fre range, and comparing and saying the milk produced by a holstein, fed and kept indoors all the time. It is simply not the same thing. Yet they are still cows, right. Hmmmm. Rapeseed is b. napus or b. rapa, canola is b. napus or b. rapa, yet what they produce is entirely different. I hope this helps.

When rapeseed was crossed to produce edible oil, it didn't create a new species, it made an edible oil. That simple.
How about this analogy:

Peach: Prunus persica

Nectarine: Prunus persica
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Yeah but they are both peaches, the exact same fruit, one to another...
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Old 12/29/11, 08:04 PM
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The thing of it is that Canola oil is still allowed to have 2% erucic acid. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erucic_acid and rats fed high amounts of canola oil have developed cardiac lesions, although to a much lesser degree than those fed rapeseed oil, according to this study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...tool=pmcentrez
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Yeah but they are both peaches, the exact same fruit, one to another...
Yep, just like canola and rape are the same.
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Tee Hee.

Think is erucic acid in canola varieties of today, not 1974 when the first canola quality crosses were made, are below half a per cent....

That article is talking about rapeseed, not canola.

It says that right at the top of the study. The subjects were fed rapeseed oil.

Here is the status on canola oil produced in western canada for 2010,

http://www.grainscanada.gc.ca/canola...c10-11-eng.htm

As you will note, the erucic acid content was 0.01%, and the 5 year average was .04%. As one moves down the first chart, you will notice that the erucic acid has been nosediving, as new cultivars are released for use.

Do you get it yet? Canola is not rapeseed!
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So as you can see, the canola produced in western Canada, has 200 times less erucic acid than the rapeseed in the study you posted. The lowest level which had trace affects on rat health.

200 TIMES LESS!!!
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So as you can see, the canola produced in western Canada, has 200 times less erucic acid than the rapeseed in the study you posted. The lowest level which had trace affects on rat health.

200 TIMES LESS!!!
Yeah, but they're from the same plant!








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I guess the Carhartt factory here in our town didnt get the memo.... friends and neighbors keep right on driving to work every morning.
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Old 12/29/11, 11:02 PM
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So as you can see, the canola produced in western Canada, has 200 times less erucic acid than the rapeseed in the study you posted. The lowest level which had trace affects on rat health.

200 TIMES LESS!!!
Yeah but, it is allowed to have amounts which caused problems in rats! ;-) hehehehe

Seriously though. Everything is dangerous in large amounts. I will concede that.

But even so, I buy food grown on trees or perennial plants as opposed to annual crops whenever there is a choice....so it doesn't much matter to me. I'll still be buying the olive oil. :-P
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And I appreciate your choice, for sure. I just want to dispell some myths is all. If you produced butternut squash, and I told people it is poisonous, you would probably get a bit anxious as well.

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The thing of it is that Canola oil is still allowed to have 2% erucic acid. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erucic_acid and rats fed high amounts of canola oil have developed cardiac lesions, although to a much lesser degree than those fed rapeseed oil, according to this study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...tool=pmcentrez
Prolly shouldnt feed it to rats then.....
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You are right Thesedays ... OUR alaska salmon IS processed in China .... That really makes me ill .... I thought that was strange and googled it ...here is a link about this .....

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...inafish16.html

That is alaskan processing jobs down the drain ..... All in the name of 'Corporate Profit and Greed'.

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I'm surprised in this whole thread nobody has mentioned the MSG poison.

If the lable says MSG . . .back on the shelf it goes . . . .

Way to many **big name** companys lace their product with MSG . .to make it taste good . . . . . . . . .bad stuff.

For all these misinformed folks about "oils" please send them my way . . .My diesel's love them................
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Old 01/02/12, 05:34 PM
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I won't shop at Family Dollar stores or Wal Mart. Nasty

I won't buy Nabisco or Kraft products (and a bunch of other items - the list is longer that you would imagine) as they are owned by Phillip Morris tobacco

Nothing with partially hydrogenized oils

Nothing with artificial sweeteners

I try to buy organic whenever I can. It is more expensive and there aren't as many choices but if we keep buying it will get better...hopefully

I was dismayed to read about the salmon being processed in China. Is there a brand that is wild (no farm raised fish) and is processed here in the USA?

I try like crazy to stay away from all Chinese products but it can be tricky.

Did you know that most store bought honey is cut with honey from South America where there are no rules about chemicals? Look at the labels. There is also some sort of sneaky honey that China tries to hide and get into this country - I don't know all the details. I buy mine from local bee keepers

I stay away from fruit out of season. Where does it come from and why does it look so perfect??

No meals in a box make it into my house.

There's prob other stuff but this is the main list.
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Old 01/02/12, 05:39 PM
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Ditto that. It even tastes like poison and it's ironic, isn't it? Every day there's all these tens of millions of people washing down the diet pop sweetened with aspartame because they think it's better for them than sugar or high fructose corn syrup. Eating other sweet foods that are advertised as "light" and "calorie wise" that are sweetened with aspartame.

In reality they're destroying their brain cells and poisoning their whole systems with one of the most insidiously toxic substances that was ever invented by man.



I totally agree. It's in so much food it's crazy. Check out yoghurt for instance or chewing gum. My local store carries some cookies from Europe. They don't have junk in them. I believe Europeans are waaaay ahead of us on this.
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