victimless crime

The way I swim a scuba tank and a life jacket would be a better idea.............

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Libertarindependent

Oh don't worry! the "holier than thou's" and the "it's for our own safety" crowd already control the building codes for most States, Cities and towns..

I already have to design around their codes such as the State requires no more than a 1.6 gal per flush codes for toilets, yet some of the municipalities around here require a 1.28 gal per flush. But yet if you suggest an outhouse which use no water they get upset and disrespectful...

They just won't let go of their little "thiefdoms" and hate it when you point it out to them...

I really hate having to deal with these idiots, but as the draftsman/CADD operator/Plumbing Estimator for the company I work for, it is in my job descriptions...

Also on a side note, something I've notice, a lot of the people who want "alternative housing" such as straw bale, shipping containers, etc are the same folks that want all the regulations and building codes, which work against alternative housing..

It boggles the mind sometimes!

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Pennsylvania Constitution, Article 1 Section 21 "The Right of the Citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned"
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The only law in the land that should be able deprive man of his freedom and rights is listed in the first 10 articles of the Constitution. All those multitude of laws are interpretations of circumstances to dilute those very articles. Enforcement by our government should be based solely on the Bill of Rights. If you are found under probable cause to have violated the Bill of Rights, evidence (all those what ifs everyone has listed here) should be taken before the BLIND justice system and dealt with. There is absolutly nothing in my opinion you can come up with that can not be adjudicated under those rights. All else is civil in nature and can be handled under common law.

My copy of our Constitution only has seven articles.

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Sorry just got typing away and lost the train,,,,articles and 1st 10 amenments, Thanks

Was reading up on another case of where a Court won't take up Obama's ineligibility to be President. They won't take cases due to "standing" saying pretty much that we have been harmed all the same,so no one person or group can have "standing". Basically we all need to come together and file. Obama being a Fraud makes us all a part of a "Victimless crime".

Oh I dunno about victimless.... 300 million or so victims makes it pretty much a victim type crime wouldnt ya think?

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"Nothing so needs reforming as other peoples habits." Mark Twain

There is still a law on the books that you can not cross the Iowa/Missouri state line with a duck on your head. Now that is a prime example of a law that needs to just be removed from the books. We have enough real laws to deal with than these sorts of carp laws.
I also like the one here in Iowa where you can't sell narcotics without first getting a drug stamp from the state.
Who'da thunk it?

Could you post a link to the case?

Jim

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec...obama-20111223

I wonder why we write laws against suicide attempts and why we commit people for cutting themselves. Just sits as weird sometimes to take a grown persons right to choices on whats to be done with their own body despite the repercussions. I work in mental health and love my job and I do it well but sometimes I do think trying to stop people who are determined to kill themselves is just an exercise in futility.

Just read where one state passed a law that will start in 2012.

No more happy hour. There will be a law against it.

Yup, I figure if someone has gotten tired of the game and wants to excuse themselves.... who the heck am I to deny them that right?

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I wasnt planning any trips to Utah anytime soon anyway... last time I was there I couldnt even smoke OUTSIDE in public parks!

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This is basically a a tax evasion law for when the state can't get the goods. Think Al Capone.

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Mahatma Gandhi


Libertarindependent

Thank you for the link. I am familiar with this case. I thought maybe some thing new was filed. I will say up front I think he is a natural born citizen, but am curious about the subject.

Jim

Thank You Jim,who do you think his father is? The father and Mother to any child born on this land, has to be a Citizen,before the child is born on this soil,to be eligible as a Natural Born Citizen. Pllease read Happerset vs Minor (forgive my spelling,i 'll give you a link".

Here is a link to the case. I have read it before but will reread it before commenting. I will say it does not support your beliefs.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bi...l=88&invol=162

Jim

Here are 4 cases, from the scotus. very easy to scroll to read the briefs.
http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/10/...-born-citizen/

Thanks for posting the link Jim.... I found it quite enlightening.... and yet I agree with you.. it does not resolve the issue of the natural born vs naturalized citizen when it comes to the eligibility requirement for our president. It does clear up some other issues however for me... relating to anyones "right to vote". As I had assumed that "right" apparently remains with the states to determine for themselves on a state by state basis other than with those few areas that have been Constitutionally amended. Women cannot be denied their right based on sex, nor can racial discrimination be used. But most anything else is wide open for any state to deny voting "rights". I also noticed that when our Constitution was ratified voting was indeed an extremely limited privilege depending upon the state involved. I can see the merits of those limitations.... and kinda wish we still worked with those principles.

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