An interesting article about Monosanto.

I agree with you, dairy farmers work extremely hard. In fact, a little too hard IMO. That's why I'm not a dairyman, LOL. Are you talking about Ozark Creamery? I've never bought their milk, but I advise others to buy it.
But Farmer Jo and his wife Ethel only supply a little bit of the milk to the main chains of milk, and most of it comes from mega dairy operations that do indeed use prodigious amounts of hormones and antibiotics. (The two are almost synonymous, since the hormones cause so much damage that infections are common.) It's not Farmer Jo running the dairy mega farms and dairy CAFOs
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I've been eating my gm canola for 15 years along with my deer, elk, and moose. They, and I am thriving.

Here is part of what i find interesting. Many folks on here are all fired up about the terribly high feed prices, fuel prices etc. If they only new how much fuel is saved, and how much more grain is produced using new technology, (not just gm seeds, but fertilizers, etc..), They would probably be astounded.

It is a gene, a simple gene. And why only ever evil Monsanto? What about Bayer, Ipco, Dow? I think it is because most people read an article, and are so far removed from agriculture, they swallow what they read, hook, line, and glyphosate.

Few on here make their living farming, and so I do not begrudge them the fact they may think they know a lot, but really know very little. Many of the posts make me chuckle on here, because they remind me of my urban sisters, who were raised on this farm with me as a kid, but moved to the city, and are so far removed from what is going on in agriculture now a days, and this is only after about 10 years of leaving this place. They are urbanized completely.

I can only imagine those who have always lived in urban centers, and the amount of farming knowledge they have. They can't help it, but when "organic", rototilling, permaculture, and such is all the rage, they have limited contact with real life, down home farming. Articles get to them, and the writers know it, and write accordingly.

Monsanto is neither good nor evil, it is a company. It provides jobs, wealth, and technology that saves fuel and soil. It has done some things in the past that are questionable.

Why don't we talk about John deere? This company is exactly like monsanto. It has done things in the past that were bad for the environment, hard on the soil, etc. But it has also built machinery that are better for the soil, that uses less fuel, etc. it too is a neutral company.

I farm for a living, I am not a Monsanto stockholder. I use very few of their products. I will not defend them, there is nothing to defend, they are a company with good and bad attributes. Just like any other.

And finally, the EU imported soy and corn from Brazil for years. Brazil was using gm crops, "unofficially" and exporting them to the EU, which played smoke and mirrors with their residents. This is why the US got rightfully upset. The Eu was knowingly importing gm products from a rival country which on paper was gm free, but in reality, everyone knew they were at the forefront of gm technology. Everyone that is, except for gullible, treehugging europeon citizens.

So, how many cows exactly does it take before a successful multi-generational family dairy expands to where it becomes one of those evil mega farms? And, why does having x amount of cows make the enterprise evil? And, what is a prodigious amount? You just belch back the "anti" propaganda but no real information. Sorry, but you don't seem to have invested any critical thinking of your own.

The milk we like is from Shatto farms. www.shattomilk.com But I have no qualms about giving my grandkids commodity milk, either. Again, I buy the Shatto because it is better tasting, fresher, and I want to support these local producers, not because I am "skeered" of side effects from a gallon of milk.

There are a lot of good reasons to produce your own food, to buy it locally, and to use organic/natural methods. Talk up the positives about this, instead of trying to spread hate and fear.

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Most people, including those on the homesteading forum, really know little about farming.
Some may garden, some may farm, and many live in cities.
Just think how many people there are in the U.S. No think how many farmers there are in the U.S. that produce the crops eaten by all the other people.
The population keeps growing but the number of farms does not. These people still enjoy eating. If the farmers had to go back to farming like they did years ago their production would drop dramatically.
Let those who complain step up to the plate and grow the crops for those who cannot.

Should I use binary? Perhaps if you read each and every letter in binary, process it real good, and spit it out again...
A dairy that is so large it must hire many employees (and probably mexican cheap labor) that the oThere is absolutely no excuse for using growth hormones. Even if rBST didn't cause the myriad of problems it causes, it would still be unethical to use it. For example, Ralgro. Ralgro is not as bad as rBST, but it does screw up the cow and can pollute the waterways. I know several people who have also permanently sterilized their animals with excessive, unethical use of hormones. And I am not against a minor use of hormones in an emergency, such cases happen and should be fixed. But to use them regularly because you are not happen with how the animal is producing is unethical.wners no longer have any contact with their cows.

Precisely, panch. Precisely.

AMEN! Kick Monsanto out!

I live in South GA.... you all know about the peanuts we grow. This guy across the road planted about 8 acres. I promise you, he sprayed those nuts ATLEAST twice a week for months! MADE ME SICK TO MY STOMACH! to think that WE THE PEOPLE are poisioned with all those chemicals!

Then there are the pecans......peaches........all the fruits & veggies you could possibly name.............

Aunt fannie, do you know he was using Monsanto products? Why not blame him, not a company? Did Monsanto make him spray as often as you say? This is the type of knee jerk reaction I am talking about here. How do you know what chemical he was spraying?

Chill out, and then find out what he was spraying. Then you can feel free to panic about Monsanto. Until you know what was going on there, maybe you would like to find out a bit more information?

Dale

Ya really. And now for the good things that Monsanto is abut to come out with. Is Drought Resistant Corn.
And by golly everyone should be happy about that as the country has gotten more and more droughts in the last resent years.
Gee there are many Chemical Companies. Unless a person knows for sure that someone was spraying a Monsanto product. Better just cool out and take a nice hot drink and think of better things..
Next time stay indoors if a person is so sensitive to things as that. That doesn't mean then rest of the people are, or that bad things are being sprayed either.

Well Mr. farmer in the DALE............ I don't need to know WHAT CHEMICAL COMPANY furnished the chemicals......... I would bet my right leg & left arm he wasn't putting WATER on the peanuts with a tractor...........

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/703873_2

Then there is No reason to condemn Monsanto, just chemicals companies then. Which btw have made this country great over the years.

That's a lot of hate based on supposition and guesses.

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Whatever that is I am not a member and cannot access it. care to provide a synopsis?

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Would you willingly drink bt? I wouldn't and I want to know if I am eating a little bt in my cornflakes. But the USDA has determined that I should not know if I'm eating bt. The FDA has determined that I should not know if I am being fed penicillin with each glass of milk. But guess what, I am allergic to penicillin so I can't drink grocery store milk. Is that Monsanto's fault? Not entirely. But they have lobbied congress to prohibit consumer friendly labeling of GMO products.

Also, the long term effects of Round-up ready and other GMO crops on humans is not yet known. We have not had 3 or 4 generations of human studies to determine if it is a problem. By the time we find out it has horrible side-effects it will be too late. But most people don't care because it won't affect them. In fact they will be long gone before the long term effects are discovered.

How long is long enough? Would it really matter anyway? It has been years since Rachael Carson wrote her fantasy about DDT. Most of it has been disproven, countless millions of lives were lost due to her lies and the idiots that believed them yet DDT is still thought of as an evil chemical.
As can be seen here, science and proof have little to do with anything.

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Really? What exactly does GMO have to do with penicillin?

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How on earth could you be eating roundup in your cornflakes. It breaks down quite quickly and is not sprayed on corn for a long time before the ears even show up.

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GMO has absolutely nothing to do with penicillin. I was trying to point out that the govt does not care about the safety of our food supply by refusing to require truth in labeling and penalizing companies that try to label their products for consumers who want to know what they are consuming.
I did misspeak regarding the round-up. The gene splicing that included a toxin in the corn germ is the one with the built-in bt. The gene splicing which produced glyphosate resistant corn is one that messed with the amino acids and proteins in the germ. I will revise the previous post to reflect that.

You made me laugh. Farmer in the Dale is what my ma calls me sometimes...

In my humble opinion, if he was applying something that frequently, perhaps it was a fungicide for disease protection? I am a long ways from peanut production. I don't really love countless chemical applications either, it is just that you made many assumptions, when we really do not know what is being sprayed...

Dale