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I have studied and I have my own beliefs about it. I'm just wondering what others believe. I have seen quite a bit of animosity toward Muslims here, and I'd really like to know if that's the general feeling of people. Of course some Muslims are terrorists, and I have no problem with killing them. But some people seem to think that ALL Muslims are out to convert everyone to Islam and if they haven't shown it yet it's because they're just waiting for a chance to slit your neck. I just don't believe that's true. I actually know a lot of Muslims and I honestly think most of them are as serious about Islam as most Americans are about Christianity. But those who think all Muslims want to kill us are too cautious to get to know any of them. Just hoping I'm not the only one who believes in saving souls, even Muslim souls.
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...................Do you think Muslims will allow , Catholic , Baptists , etc . to build their church's in countries that are 99.44% Muslim controlled like Iraq , Saudia Arabia ? They are allowed to do so in the USA virtually unhindered . , fordy 
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12/13/11, 08:06 PM
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I don't see what that has to do with my question or my beliefs I posted.
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12/13/11, 11:40 PM
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I don't see what that has to do with my question or my beliefs I posted.
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................Muslims in muslim countries countries are quite happy with one religion , BUT , when they migrate too the USA they want too exercise all the freedoms of religion that they really never have earned . All us infidels purchased and continue to maintain religious freedoms with infidel blood, here , so maybe you can understand why our citizens don't jump up to meet the new muslim families ! I don't hate'um , but I don't trust'em either . , fordy 
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12/13/11, 11:49 PM
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There ya go.
There IS a mandate in their quaran.
And there's only a very small % who want us all killed. Maybe .05% or 1%?
Do the math, there's over a billion muslims.
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There's about 5 million muslims in the U.S. If 1% are trying to kill us, that would be 50,000 of them.
I watch the news most days, and am not hearing much about muslim killings in our country. They must be doing a poor job. Shouldn't be that hard. I'm more worried about non-muslims getting me. Plenty of dangerous gangs, etc around.
And for all their killing ways, we've killed alot of more of Muslims than they have of us. For which Christians can take comfort.
And we're the ones who've meddled in their affairs for decades instigating a fight. Starting in 1953 installing the Shah of Iran who brutalized his people with help of our CIA. Destroying Iraq and imposing sanctions, etc.
Since muslims are so bloodthirsty, you'd think we would just leave them alone, but I guess they happen to have "our oil", as this Romney spokesman said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvb6p...ature=youtu.be
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12/14/11, 04:22 AM
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12/14/11, 04:38 AM
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12/14/11, 04:46 AM
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12/14/11, 05:39 AM
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It was once, if not several times, the "christians" who were doing the witch hunting and the ethnic cleansing.
The pendulum swings.
I have long had an immediate bristling come over me when any entity tells me what race, creed or nation is my enemy.
We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but it is to the great advantage of some elite flesh and blood that people be easily lead to hate and fear.
Religion, I care not what the flavor, is a crutch for those who cannot or simply will not walk with the Creator on their own two feet.
It is clear enough to me, the Messiah came simply to cut the bureaucratic red tape between man and God, re-establishing the possibility of a pure walk, such as Adam experienced before the fall.
Obviously, every "religion" on the planet has since made every effort to reinstate the bureaucratic hierarchy. At the top, government and religion are intertwined and indistinguishable.
......and..... they need peoples/races/religions to hate each other........
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12/14/11, 07:14 AM
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So, RonPaulRooster, after perusing your first link in post #26, here's the jist of my deduction....
In supporting your link, you believe that all the "bad talk" about Islam is merely a setup to further the Israeli agenda? How do you define "Zionist"? In your opinion, is there a line you use to distinguish between a hard-core Zionist and a regular Christian or Jew? Or do you not find a difference? Just trying to understand your point, seeing that you posted a bunch of vids but didn't comment on any of them. 
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12/14/11, 07:37 AM
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Are Muslims primarily enemies that must be defeated or are they souls to be saved? I'm asking strictly about individual Muslims, not the whole of Islam.
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Souls to be saved. You free them from the oppression of the enemy through prayer. You pray for God to soften their hearts, let the scales fall from their eyes so they can see the gospel. You pray for God to send workers to plant the seed of the gospel and for that seed to hit good ground, to grow and bring a harvest.
No human is ever your enemy. The bible says we "wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers....." The enemy is the kingdom of darkness that has unbelievers held in it's grasp. The enemy is the devil, the fallen arch angel lucifer the satan. The word satan is not a name, it is the word for enemy in aramaic. The enemy of any human's soul is lucifer who leads the kingdom of darkness. A human, of any religious belief, is never your enemy.
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12/14/11, 09:05 AM
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RPR.....I, for one, would like to hear your personal take, and what you believe to be the best individual course of action in response.......
Repeatedly posting videos will only serve to get your message ignored for spam.
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This question is like asking about deer hunting and butchering meat at a PETA event ..... it is going to draw alot of controversy.
The bible says to love your enemies .... let us also not forget that GOD opened the earth numerous times and swallowed whole the enemies of Israel.
Personally ..... I prefer GOD's version of eradication .... after all ... no ones law trumps GOD's .... period. I say let the earth swallow them all up. Eradicate the muslims like the vermin and roaches that thery are........
Let hell and Satan sort them out ............ I personally think they should all leave this earth with a mouthful of pork bacon.
Their religion says that pork is the greatest of sins and will prevent them from getting to Allah and the great land of 10,000 virgins. So I load my .357 hollowpoint bullets with hard pork fat. That way if I ever get the chance to shoot a muslim terrorist .... Not only can I kill him and save innocent american women, children and families, I can also condemn him to hell for eternity by loading him with pork fat.
Last man standing gets the groceries .................
Ohio Rusty ><>
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Well, that was certainly a turn for the better. 
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This question is like asking about deer hunting and butchering meat at a PETA event ..... it is going to draw alot of controversy.
The bible says to love your enemies .... let us also not forget that GOD opened the earth numerous times and swallowed whole the enemies of Israel.
Personally ..... I prefer GOD's version of eradication .... after all ... no ones law trumps GOD's .... period. I say let the earth swallow them all up. Eradicate the muslims like the vermin and roaches that thery are........
Let hell and Satan sort them out ............ I personally think they should all leave this earth with a mouthful of pork bacon.
Their religion says that pork is the greatest of sins and will prevent them from getting to Allah and the great land of 10,000 virgins. So I load my .357 hollowpoint bullets with hard pork fat. That way if I ever get the chance to shoot a muslim terrorist .... Not only can I kill him and save innocent american women, children and families, I can also condemn him to hell for eternity by loading him with pork fat.
Last man standing gets the groceries .................
Ohio Rusty ><>
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Wow. And here I used to think you were a nice guy!
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12/14/11, 10:17 AM
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RPR, as I said in Post #22, how about adding some discussion points to your posts instead of flooding us with vids?
Many on HT can't even watch vids, so you could at least TRY to be productive about making your point, if you are serious about it being a point worth making.
I, for one, have no respect for people who throw things around while staying in their hidey-hole.
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12/14/11, 10:21 AM
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Not that much differences in any religions. Like many other groups, each religion thinks the other religion (group) is wrong. Everyone's own religion (group) is always right and the other religion (group) is wrong.
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12/14/11, 01:39 PM
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First, your assumption of being deleted probably comes from the negativity you exude in your posts. I'm not a mod, but I can tell you that even if folks don't like what you say, I doubt you'd be deleted merely on the ideals you believe to be fact. Presentation is everything. (I'm not a pro at it, but have managed to only get one infraction!)
Second, in studies of strategists, Muhammed was one that particularly caught my attention. You can't change the fact that devout muslims still follow his example. You mention fairly recent wars (1812, really?)... but you don't mention the wars caused by Islam 1500 years ago.
I, for one, didn't watch ANY of your vids because you refused to make a point about them. You still didn't answer my question about how YOU define a "Zionist". Are ALL Christians Zionists in your opinion? Are all people that support Israel, regardless of faith, Zionists in your opinion? I know the textbook definition.... but you refuse to clarify your point other than "Israel/Jews/Zionists are BAD!".
In your hollering about Israel ascending, you completely ignored their history of constantly being attacked, centuries of being banished with no homeland to go back to, their years of slavery, Obama trying to roll back the clock to the 60s, etc.
While I was over in the ME checking things out, where were you? "Sitting on your ass" watching which channel?  "Faux" is pronounced "Foe"
You quote the Bible with your "seek and ye shall find"... yet, you ignore everything else the Bible has to say regarding Israel.
No wonder you aren't taken seriously.
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12/14/11, 01:42 PM
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Not that much differences in any religions. Like many other groups, each religion thinks the other religion (group) is wrong. Everyone's own religion (group) is always right and the other religion (group) is wrong.
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There are very few religions which teach if someone rejects it you are to accept their decision and move on. This is what Christ taught us to do. We are only to tell them the truth not force them to live it.
If you study Islam you will discover there is no religion but Islam. If you are in an area taken over by Muslims and a 'believer in the book', i.e. following a religion which flows from Abraham (Judaism or Christianity), you may continue to follow your religion if you pay a tax but you MAY NOT try to spread your faith even to your own family.
If you are a non believer or a follower of another religion you have two choices; convert and follow Mohammad or die.
Admittedly not followers follow the teachings of Mohammad strictly, just others do not follow the teachings of Christ nor Mose strictly, but that's what he said in his teachings.
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Is it even relevant that they want to kill us? Did Jesus add conditions to the great commission?
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12/14/11, 02:58 PM
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................Muslims in muslim countries countries are quite happy with one religion , BUT , when they migrate too the USA they want too exercise all the freedoms of religion that they really never have earned . All us infidels purchased and continue to maintain religious freedoms with infidel blood, here , so maybe you can understand why our citizens don't jump up to meet the new muslim families ! I don't hate'um , but I don't trust'em either . , fordy |
But that wasn't what I asked about.
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