If you were on the jury, how would you vote?

I voted "convicted as charged", because there was no doubt, that he was "guilty as charged", since he certainly did shoot and kill the thief.

Anyown who voted otherwise, is mis-using our judicial system, for their own personal bias, IMO.

A jurys responsilbility is to decide, based on facts of the case, whether the defendant is guilty of the crime (as prescribed by a real law) in which he/she is charged, which in this case, shooting and killing someone illegally, regardless of the circumstance.

It's NOT a jury's job to decide on what they think is right or wrong.

If you think it's "OK" to shoot and kill some slob, who is stealing your ATV, then get the laws changed, so that you may legally do so. Blast away, no problems here.

Jury's have a very important job to do and making their own laws, it not one of them.

I have personally seen juror bias - the other way, get a drug dealer off the hook. "hey I do drugs, whats the problem", was an exact quote, from one of the "jurors", who steadfast voted "not guilty", in sptie of overwhelming evidence.

If the lowlife wouldn't have been stealing he wouldn't have gotten shot, Not Guilty

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Not guilty with extreme prejudice, so they cannot charge the shooter with anything else related to the case.

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Texas has and I totally believe in the Castle Doctrine Law. Don't come on my property and screw with my stuff, bother my car, or my boat - you are not going to like the result.

Gotta agree with Old John here.

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I voted same as you, but the thief (one of the lowest forms of life) wasn't stealing a toy. He was stealing an expensive piece of equipment that somebody else worked hard to buy.

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Maybe this will help get the Arkansas law changed.

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"It's NOT a jury's job to decide on what they think is right or wrong."

Actually that depends on who you listen to. If you listen to the Officers of the Court(Judges, lawyers, etc.), they want all that power kept in their hands. If you listen to the people behind the FIJA, they think the citizens should look at EVERY aspect of the case, including whether the law is good or not.
I find it VERY interesting how many lawyers will dismiss potential jurors quickly if they find out you have even heard of the FIJA. It seems like they're working to hide any knowledge of it from everybody and keep most people from even hearing about it.
http://fija.org/
Quick way to get out of the jury box.

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This case didn't happen in Texas, so their laws don't matter here.
The ONLY laws that matter are those where it occurs

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That's if you think the laws are just.

Quote "Jury's have a very important job to do and making their own laws, it not one of them.

I have personally seen juror bias - the other way, get a drug dealer off the hook. "hey I do drugs, whats the problem", was an exact quote, from one of the "jurors", who steadfast voted "not guilty", in sptie of overwhelming evidence."

That's not what jury nullification is about. It's easy and quick to google information about it to get the facts of what it's about.

I have personally seen judges instruct juries to ignore and disregard facts in a case that would reflect badly on the defendant... because the defendant was one of the 'good old boy' network and a large donor to various elected officials at the state level.

He knew the other person and could have done it by the law since it was his cousin and they argued before he shot him. Does this influence your vote?

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Not trying to argue with you about the outcome since we are both agreed on that, I'm just looking at it from a less capitalistic and less materialistic perspective. You may call it an expensive piece of equipment, I call it an expensive toy.

If the owner thought so highly of his expensive toy that he worked hard to buy and valued above the life of a man then he should have safeguarded it better and had it locked up tight so that it wouldn't be a temptation to any potential thief whether the thief was a relative (which he was) or not.

No toy or piece of equipment to play with is worth a man's life, no matter how expensive it is.

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Does that imply that the police should never use force to arrest someone who steals an 'expensive toy"? No SWAT team if the thief barricades themselves in a house? Is failure to yield to gov authority a more heinous crime than theft of another person's property?

Which mindset will result in a more orderly and peaceful society?
No toy or piece of equipment to play with is worth a man's life.
Nothing I own is worth risking your life to steal.

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All Bernard Madoff stole was a bunch of people's "toys". So what if he ruined the lives of hundreds or maybe thousands of people? It's only money, isn't it? If you ask the people who lost their life savings, they might tell you it's more than that.
I guess people don't worry about principles much these days.

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All you bleeding hearts for the thief, make me sick!!!! I question the saneness of the people picked for the jury!!!!
I am sure this will be appealed and I bet you he gets a much better lawyer

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Deo Vindice O I'm a Good Old Rebel and thats what I am, I don't want no pardon for what I am and did

under english common law, property is a physical manifestation of that portion of your life used to acquire the property, therefore anyone stealing your property is in fact stealing your life the same as murder. you are okay to kill them because it is "self defense."
to put that in terms some people can understand better
say you make $10 an hour and the ATV costs $7000 (yes they really do cost that much), that ATV represents 700 hours of the owners life. in 8 hour workdays it represents 87.5 days stolen from the owner's life.
so yeah, i condone what he did and i would have refused to convict.

And this is why people think it's okay to steal "your" hard earned property.
Because of the way people like you think. Temptation!?!....It's not yours!!!!

I should be able to leave my doors unlocked and keys in my truck. It's NOT yours to take. But bleeding hearts continue to allow this to be okay.
If more got shot for stealing, thieves would rethink "their" decisions.

My ATV helps with all my farm work, hauling hay to differant locations, mending fences, unloading feed etc. Its on my property, if you try to steal it, you will be shot.

If your up to NO GOOD then your NO GOOD for society

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Couldn't do any worse that is for sure .

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I agree with Fowler. Too bad I am in California.