Why don't we make people WORK for Unemployment Compensation??
 

Why shouldn't we make people receiving unemployment compensation work for their check? They could work on public works projects like the CCC used to do...bridges, dams, amphitheatres, high speed railroads, schools, hospitals,
planting trees, all public work projects.
I say bring back the Civilian Conservation Corps!
It's a waste to just give away money for free and we can no longer afford it.
What do you think?
By the way I am 57 and have been working full time since I was 17 and have never collected a cent of welfare or unemployment. Not patting myself on the back but I have been unemployed and got up everyday and went to look for work until I found something even if I had to travel. Sometimes I worked for free with guys until they hired me.

I would agree only if we also added in Welfare recipients....make them work in order to recieve their monthly check.

Why, you people are so mean to expect people to earn their keep. The horror! I can't believe I am reading this. I expected better from you both. Don't you know these people can't work at all, ever? Gosh and golly, it is YOUR job to care for them. Honestly, the nerve. (we really need a saracastic smilie here)!

But, but, but ....then, the left could not ask for another trillion in stimulus for FDR type projects.... You common sense guys/gals simply do not get it, the left claims we need to spend more to put more people to work. It makes no sense to do it the way you spell out, because spending more and making the rich pay is the only way the left can think of to fix things.....Evil corporations and advertising have clouded your minds....

I'm all for making people capable of working work for their check.

Everytime I've seen it suggested it was immediately attacked as Socialism!

There's also a legitimate concern that it competes with private business in some cases.

The people who are getting unemployment are not they problem they paid for their insurance. The people ho refuse to work are the problem . Cut their money. W had a woman volunteer 4 hours a day so she could get help. She worked 2 days then disappeared took the phone number and made some kind of charge back system and gave it to all her friends. Then next month a 3k$ phone bill ,she should be in jail but there's no room so she's out to con somebody else. I took her car (nice one) and sold it for parts and scrap.

LOL

No it wasn't

Not if it's GOVT jobs they are doing
It makes no sense to pay one group to do a job, and then pay another group to do nothing at all when all the funds come from taxes

No it wasn't! It was attacked BY Socialists..

Conservatives think they should work for what is given them...Or at the least attempt to help pay the costs..

The nightmare of "forcing" someone to work would cost more to the government than just putting out the money. There would be the 20% who would call in sick or family problems or broken down car or whatever.
Or those who might show up but cause more damage than they accomplish.
Then you would have to hire someone to supervise and keep records etc.
You would have to pay at least worker's compensation- which would be another nightmare all by itself.
There would be court cases over who got fired or promoted or whatever thing someone could take offence over.
After years of dealing with the "public" I can tell you that people who really really want to work, do no matter what and people who don't, don't.
I used to think that the highways must be impassable on those days that recipients were required to come to do something- you know, all those broken down cars litteingr the roads. :)

To be frank, I doubt many (most?) welfare recipients could physically do more than push a broom or do some job where standing for extended periods of time was not required. Harsh, but true.

Your just a bit confused.......getting that idea in your head
 

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came directly from reading about it in Sibera where the 'socialists' practiced it upon their neighbors
who they imprisoned in the gulags and forced them to work on chain gangs, death marches, etc.
The pay-out came ONLY to the survivors who managed to stay alive on moldy bread (when
they could get it) slimy, watery fluid that passed for soup and anything else that crawled
through their cramped and putrid cells at night.

And what's to prevent private business from filling that niche by managing those projects that
the 'gooberment' deems necessary......like improving a hiking trail or building a roadside rest area, etc.???

Why should we "MAKE" people work for the proceeds of an insurance agreement, called Unemployment Compensation?

It is not a free gift, it is insurance, every person who has it had to give up some pay (money) to the employer, so the employer could pay the government for the insurance. So why should the newly jobless person be expected to pay twice on top of having no job?:heh:

They did work for some of it, but not for 99 weeks worth.

You've got to be kidding. Newly jobless? The extensions have gotten ridiculous!

I-n-s-u-r-a-n-c-e is a foul word. It's not insurance. It's a racket and a trap as ALL insurance, especially when there is no CHOICE of the person to pay it. I paid into North Carolina via my checks for over 25 years. I was denied benefits because I supposedly voluntarily quit my most recent job (at that time 2007).

I shared a job with another girl as office manager for a real estate office. The owner decided they should have one full time person. When they hired one, we two kindly stepped out.

I guess I was supposed to brace myself at the door and scream "no, I won't go!"??
Thousands of stories like this. But the saddest is that MORE stories of the people who have been collecting for almost 2 straight years. They've learned how to keep that money, and supplement with cash odd jobs, etc.

And how bout the way they figure the wage benefits.. If you got canned 24-36 months ago, you may have qualifed for $400 dollars a week based on your quarterly earned wages they use to come up with a number.

Well, as the wage averages have gone down over two years, the benefits have not. Why would you accept a $9 hour job identical to what you were previously paid $12 for when you're getting $400 a week for nuthin!

People should work for their money. Its called a job, and when you dont have one... you should hurry up and get one if you want cash to spend. pretty simple concept really. :shrug:

Unemployment compensation is intended to tide you over until you find another job. Kinda hard to go job hunting or interviewing when you are in a CCC camp working somewhere

I have a family member who has been on unemployment for more than 70 weeks now. No job, does the minimal looking but has justified in mind that gas, etc is not worth the effort to look for a job or take a low paying job right now. I wonder what they do when the benefits run out and they are attemping to live on the very small salary that is coming in.

This family member lives near a very very large city that is doing okay, very high unemployment rate state-wide but I wonder if it has anything to do with also being a 99 week state?

I have been very very surprised by family members attitude regarding unemployment. Am not in that position but think that I would be doing something to attempt find employment rather than sitting around bemoaning lack of college degree, downturn in their particular industry, distance to travel to work, etc. and so forth. And if I couldnt find a job, think I would be volunteering somewhere, networking with others and doing some good in the world rather than sitting around moaning about how tough it is and can't find a job.

I am getting ready to take a PT teaching position that is a 2hour commute round trip, because it was a good opportunity, providing experience and networking. By the time it is done I will make very little money but will have useful experience that will hopefully result in something better.

Sitting around "belly-aching" about not having a job didnt get this opportunity for me. And I am sorry to come across as "harsh" I do deeply feel for those who are unemployed .

"Why don't we make people WORK for Unemployment Compensation??"

and test them and the welfare recipients for drugs....and if you are already on welfare and turn up pg again, the welfare gets cut off, no excuses.

As a recently unemployed person I can say, actually getting on unemployment for the first time is no easy task. Its a full time job in itself just to get some sort of compensation which I paid into in the first place.

I'm not asking for 99 weeks of pay or anything of the sort but when I suffer a work related injury and then LOSE all of my hours because I am now a "liability" it would be nice to have something to float myself until I can find another job.

All I want is the money I paid in, nothing more nothing less.

"All I want is the money I paid in, nothing more nothing less."

And this is the kind of attitude that I don't mind seeing the benefits going to....but don't get me started on third and fourth generation welfare recipients!

Employees do not pay unemployment insurance.

That is not Nation wide anymore. It varies from State to State as this chart shows.
http://www.cbpp.org/images/cms//uimap.jpg

My husband is one of those who has gotten extensions. Several of them in fact. He was originally laid off in November of 2010. Believe me when I say that he [B]has[B] looked. He has gone as far as 90 miles one way to apply for a job. Now I do not know who is getting $400 a week to stay home but you can bet your fanny he is [B]not[B]. If it were not for the fact that we have always lived within our means and had some emergency funds we would be in deep trouble right now.

Twice since Nov 2010 DH has been hired. He worked for 4 days at one place and 6 at another before they laid him off. Why? Because they did not get contracts that they were expecting. So they did not need him.

Because we had a little bit in the bank we do not qualify for any government aid. You basically must have no assets for that to work for you and we will not get anywhere discussing the ways around the system. Yes they are there. We choose not to try and cheat the system.

Why had hubby not gotten another job you ask? He is over 50 and looks it. He has over 30 years of experience in his field but they either look at him and think he is incapable of doing the job because of his age or they will not even offer him the low wage position because of his experience. He would be happy with a minimum wage job pushing a broom at this point. I would be happy if he was out of the house more. Not looking forward to the time that he retires and is home full time. He is depressed and on meds for it. I would be happy if a little bit of volunteer work was required to get the extended benefits. It would be a win win for me. But as already pointed out must leave people time to work at finding another job.

My point is do not go knocking everyone who is getting unemployment. Some of them would rather not be on it. They would rather have a job and go to work and believe me it would make their SO's very happy to!

But that is just my story.

Somewhere I read: "You would be amazed at the number of people on unemployment who found work in the last two weeks of their benefits".

Ds would have been thrilled to work in exchange for unemployment compensation. As long as he would have been able to get excused to go to interviews. He spent 2 years looking for a job doing anything and all he could find was through temp agencies, which is what he is doing now.

As for welfare benefits, in order to get welfare benefits here you do have to work. Entry level fast food jobs at minimum wage are reserved for illegals on welfare.

So in your eyes we would be better off to just eliminate the benefits all together (unemployment and welfare). I agree. There is plenty of work out there it just does not pay as much as the free ride. While we are at it why do we allow the people to vote that are on this free ride? Oh I think the problem has been located.

Free ride (the gimme group) keep voting in the politicians who offer the best rigged freebies. Whats left of the middle class and all of their assets get to pay the bills.

Does it really matter any more? Is there any way to pay the massive bills that have been loaded upon us? I think not. I believe that this is the plan, too.:boring:

The government keeps the plan at 99 weeks (for now) because it is well known that comparable jobs do not exist. If the plan was for say, 12 weeks the welfare rolls would soar. The jobs have been moved offshore (by plan) and will never be back. So we might as well get used to it until the crash is complete (also by plan). When the crash is over we will be forced to work all day for a meal, perhaps less.:coffee:

I'm all for UE recipients working for the public good, but wouldn't that interfere with the meth heads that are trying to get their "Community Service" hours in?

They Stopped that 99 weeks, there are just for a few States as that Chart says.
That chart is a brand new one as of July 29 2011.

And Our Governor just added 13 more weeks to WI 73 weeks to now make it 86.
Not all States are at that 99 weeks anymore.MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- Gov. Scott Walker has signed a bill that clears the way for another 13 weeks of federal unemployment benefits for out-of-work Wisconsin residents.

The Senate passed the measure on Monday after a brief squabble within Republican ranks over whether the bill should do away with a one-week waiting period before the newly unemployed can collect their first checks.

The Senate amended the bill to wipe out the waiting period, but the Assembly reinstated it and sent the legislation back to the Senate. Majority Republicans approved the Assembly version, despite cries of flip-flopping from Democrats.

The bill makes $88 million in federal money available to people who exhaust their initial 73 weeks of benefits.
http://www.weau.com/home/headlines/W...126704328.html

Ummmmmmmm, isn't working and getting paid for it a........... JOB???????

99 weeks? thats like..... almost two years!!! This thread makes me wonder why illegals bother to come to this country. Although THEY seem to be able to find jobs and keep food on their families tables here. Why cant our own citizens find work inside of a couple years?

YH, they come because of all the free govt money. So what they work for minimum wage? It's more than they would make in Mexico in a month or more. THEY get jobs because you have to work to get welfare in jobs that are (in this area anyway) reserved for them. They will work for less than minimum wage if they are paid cash daily. This work ethic is what has driven prevailing wages down to minimum wage for landscaping and construction jobs, with no workers comp. You can fine employers all you want but believe me they save that much every week in wages, taxes and perks. Considering the bottom line only it's much cheaper to hire illegals.

I've collected once. Lost a job that paid $15 dollars an hour. UE paid $8.50. All the local jobs that were available were less than that. Of course the UE ran out and now I'm making $8.50, but why would I drive 100 miles a day to earn what I could staying home and gardening and cutting firewood?

I know sometimes we don't think we get the work and/or service we deserve out of government workers, but do we really want the guy that gets fired by Shoe Carnival calculating our tax refund or making any important decisions????

+1000

While I was laid off, I could not get an interview (47 and no degree, but 20+ years experience)

I would have dug ditches, but I was 'over qualified'

The only 'opportunity' I had was to sell Kirby vacuums :roll eyes:

Don't the meth heads normally blow themselves and trailers up? :whistlin:

I would actually like to see those on welfare earn their keep... Especially the generational welfare recipients...

Those on UC (Unemployment Compensation) in PA do pay a small portion (very small) of the insurance bill. It is the employers, that pay through the nose..

I have no problem putting them to work for the money, as long as they can leave to go to job interviews etc..

But then I'm just an evil fiscal conservative "terrorist" Tea Party / 912 Patriots member. Who also is a life member of the NRA and a member of a few other groups considered by the liberal socialists/communists to be terror organizations.. Simply because we believe in the Constitution and expect the Government to live by it instead of violating it..

But YMMV! :pound:

It is pretty simple the politicians are buying votes. The solution is to stop recipients (of the benefits) from voting, or to cut off the benefits. The politicians lose on either plan, so the money will just keep on flowing.

One other solution might be to replace the politicians:clap:

Well- yes.....

the INSURANCE is in place to allow those that have worked time to find a new job consistent with their old one.
So yes as long as you haven't found a job as good as the old one it makes sense to keep looking right up to the last week.
You don't WORK to get insurance benefits.
That would be like making people work to get their social security INSURANCE benefit.

They do, at least in Texas. Someone on ANF has to work at community service 20-30 hours a week. HOpefully in an area they are trying to find work in so they can gain experience.