What Obama Should Learn About Speeches

7thswan · #21 08/06/11, 04:42 PM

coperate greed,fatcats,CEO"s making all that money....heard it all the time from my lazy union father. If you don't like the place you are working at-for what ever reason-go somewhere else. Noone is makeing you work there.

Tricky Grama · #22 08/06/11, 05:14 PM

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how many states that have right to work laws are any better off? still alot of unemployed? i buy as much american made as i can--which sadly isnt enough. but they do move their bussinesses to countries that still have sweat shops and i DO believe if they could get by with it in the states they would. and the states that are right to work states still have osha laws to follow which the unions had alot to do with putting in place. dont kid yourself the unions had alot to do with getting wages up and improving working conditions in the us. it wasnt the business owners who did that.

TX is a right to work state, as is NH. TX created over 1/2 the COUNTRY'S jobs. I'll look for more...how's it been working in WI? MI?

Here ya go: AZ, AR, AL, MS, TN, ND, SD, NE, KS, OK, LA, GA, FL, SC, NC, WY, ID, NV, UT, VA.

Cornhusker · #23 08/06/11, 05:15 PM

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PLEASE tell me dont think the fatcats wouldnt go there if they could--why do you think so many bussiness from this country moved to china and india?

I work in a non union company and we are paid above average.
Unions destroy business.
Unions are the reason a new car costs $30,000
Unions had their place once upon a time, but they are no longer needed and they are mostly organized crime.
Look at Obama's SEIU, nothing but thugs and goons for Obamaco.
does your union go out beating up old people or others just because of their political views?
Obamaco and SEIU have given unions an even worse name than they already had.

Cornhusker · #24 08/06/11, 05:28 PM

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what i said was the fatcats would have sweat shops here if they could. unions arent as strong as they used to be but they still have their place. "dictated to/controlled by unions" ie not being able to turn this country into a country with sweat shops. i dont believe detroit fell apart cuz of the unions---its called "corporate greed".

You probably got that from your union literature huh?
Face it, the places that are turning to ghost towns are because the unions and the democrats took too much milk and killed the cow.
What the unions don't tell you is that companies have to make a profit to stay in business.

Cornhusker · #25 08/06/11, 05:33 PM

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blah blah blah to you--try growing up a bit

Spoken like a true union slave.

mare · #26 08/06/11, 05:41 PM

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Spoken like a true union slave.

i am not a slave but you sir are a moron!!!!

Bearfootfarm · #27 08/06/11, 05:57 PM

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i am not a slave but you sir are a moron!!!!

big rockpile · #28 08/06/11, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by YuccaFlatsRanch

Mare - I am glad you are a union member too (too bad you live in a state where you don't have a choice if you want to work), and doubly glad I am not. Lets stop the BS about sweat shops - unions are about $$$ and power - nothing more - and if you are content to waste your money contributing to a union who doesn't care a whit about you anymore then so be it. As for me - I'll live in Texas where I have the right NOT TO BE A UNION MEMBER.

Retired Union woker here,they've taken care of me.Worked Kansas and Arkansas Nonunion made Good Money but still rather have Union.

big rockpile

big rockpile · #29 08/06/11, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by farmerpat

Ah yes, the standard left Mantra. "If it wasn't for unions, we'd all be working 23 hours a day in dark dank basements with no heat or food with Ebenezeer Scrooge as our boss, having babies in the fields and going right back to work, everyone would be working in sweat shops under the thumb of fatcats...blah blah blah"

It amazes me that people actually still spout that carp.

What amazes me more is that they actually expect people to believe it.

Worked in a Nonunion Shop they said soon as hired they was giving you a Job nothing more.Seen people drop Dead on the line and two get fired because they shut the Line down.Seen people get Carpal Tunnel so Bad their Hands Locked up,they was Fired.Seen a woman Treated by Company Nurse later to Bleed to Death at Home.Go for a full year not work a Saturday but Opening Day of Firearms Deer Season you worked or was Fired.

Yea tell me again how Nonunion Shops take care of their people

big rockpile

FourDeuce · #30 08/06/11, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mare

PLEASE tell me dont think the fatcats wouldnt go there if they could--why do you think so many bussiness from this country moved to china and india?

I used to be in a union, and I noticed there were quite a few fatcats in the union leadership positions. I know they didn't get so fat on their postal salaries.

chickenmommy · #31 08/06/11, 09:26 PM

I'm from Detroit. All the men in my family were union members. What that got them was about $28 an hour, all medical ins. paid, discount on new cars, worked on a line where a vehicle came by every 45 minutes. The rest of the time was spent in a recliner with a stereo and a small fridge full of beverages and snacks. On the line. I am totally ashamed of that. I work my butt off for my non union wage which happens to be a salary with fluctuating chinese overtime. These are examples of both extremes. Look up fluctuating chinese overtime and tell me non union is better. At least they would fight for me to NOT be paying my employer to be able to work the 8th hour of overtime. It's absolutely ridiculous slave wages. But I do have a job.

Tricky Grama · #32 08/07/11, 06:43 AM

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blah blah blah to you--try growing up a bit

So here's your answer? Not even a true obfuscation. I'm surprised you didn't say "sure ya are but what am I?"...put the koolaid down & take a look at the damage unions have done-in the last few decades.

"i am not a slave but you sir are a moron!!!!"

And THIS! Wow, nice way to defend your position.

margoC · #33 08/07/11, 11:11 AM

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blah blah blah to you--try growing up a bit

Why don't you point out the sweat shops in non-union states and companies.

A friend works at GP here in GA, it's non union. She makes good money and it's a profitable mill, unlike the union one in WI.

farmerpat · #34 08/08/11, 12:55 AM

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blah blah blah to you--try growing up a bit

Is that the best response you could come up with? I figured it would at least be "well my dad can beat up YOUR dad!"

farmerpat · #35 08/08/11, 01:00 AM

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i am not a slave but you sir are a moron!!!!

Hmmmm.............. "sticks and stones" comes to mind right now.

naturelover · #36 08/08/11, 02:45 AM

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What Obama Should Learn About Speeches - General Chat

...blah blah blah"

blah blah blah to you--try growing up a bit

Aha! I see you too, (just like me) have been responded to with the famous "blah blah blahs", a typical response from someone who has nothing of worth to say but must say something to get the last word in. Watch out, next you'll be getting PM's that say only "blah, blah, blah".

The blah, blah, blahs ...... isn't that what this whole topic is about, and going nowhere with it?

To quote what YuccaFlatsRanch said:

"A wise person speaks when they have something to say but a fool speaks just to say something."

Blah, blah, blah.

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Bearfootfarm · #37 08/08/11, 03:04 AM