 |
|
06/30/11, 02:43 PM
|
 |
Too Complicated For Cable
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Washington
Posts: 10,120
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by naturelover
I don't know if that is relevant to the times or not. Flash Mobs started about 5 years ago before Obama came on the scene, and it was mostly rich white kids then and it wasn't only happening in the United States. It was happening in Europe and Canada too.
.
|
Those flash mobs were people dancing or doing something stupid to get noticed, not to rob and pillage.
__________________
Know why the middle class is screwed? 3 classes, 2 parties...
To punish me for my contempt for authority, fate made me an authority myself. ~ Einstein
|
06/30/11, 05:47 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 822
|
|
|
Store owners aren't allowed to defend their businesses is the problem. Been in the Philippines 4 times and there security has short barrel shot guns or other high power assault rifles. Some even have machine guns. They are allowed to chase a person until they're close enough to safely shoot. Hardly any shoplifting even though there is extreme poverty. If a business is at risk of flash mob situations a store owner should be able to have automatic assault rifles and should be able to push a button to lock everyone inside and start shooting. One or two times having that happen would take care of the flash mob situation.
|
06/30/11, 06:03 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 4,325
|
|
"Flash Mobs". It seems like about twice a month somebody comes up with a new word or term to use. Now it is "Flash Mobs".
I thought that we were going to talk about a bunch of old men in nothing but raincoats, and perhaps tennis shoes. 
|
06/30/11, 06:37 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: The Grey Havens
Posts: 1,891
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by atobols
That's exactly what I was thinking. Flash mobs were supposed to be fun and entertaining and had nothing to do with any type of violence. The flash mobs I know get together and strike poses, dance, or sing.
These violent gatherings are giving flash mobs a bad name!  |
I wish they would stop calling them flash mobs. True flash mobs are awesome:
__________________
"If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world" - Thorin Oakenshield to Bilbo Baggins, in JRR Tolkien's "The Hobbit"
|
06/30/11, 06:41 PM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Central New York State
Posts: 5,694
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by YuccaFlatsRanch
"Most were hoping that with the election of a black man to the highest office of the land, the black community would have a new sense of hope that they truly could achieve anything."
Talk about PC!!!! You are assigning your values to people who have no work ethic, no family values, etc. And the Sock Puppet has done absolutely nothing to change any of the above. The Progressive Leftists NEVER WILL - except to TALK A GOOD GAME.
|
This sounds as though your personal assumptions or prejudices about the black community have colored your views on the subject. I live in a city with about 70,000 people in it. A good portion of those folks are African-American. I have never met anyone who has ever participated in a flash mob, violent or otherwise.
I am black...I know black people... I work in and around the black community and I have never heard any of them say that they were happy that President Obama was elected because they felt that he was going to dole something special out to them. Most were surprised that it happened because they felt that the majority of Americans would be unwilling to elect a black man during their lifetime.
For anyone to imply (or plainly state) that the black community has no work ethic or family values is completely offensive! If I were to state that every white person in America had a filthy home, bad breath and drank booze heavily, I'm sure there would be plenty of folks who would offended by my sweeping generalizations.
If you have a problem with the actions of people who participate in violent flash mobs, then just say it! Don't paint everybody in a specific ethnic group with the same dirty brush.
|
06/30/11, 08:26 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Indiana, USA
Posts: 12,667
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by naturelover
I don't know if that is relevant to the times or not. Flash Mobs started about 5 years ago before Obama came on the scene, and it was mostly rich white kids then and it wasn't only happening in the United States. It was happening in Europe and Canada too.
.
|
As stupid as "flash mobs" are, weren't they usaually just to dance around and act silly (stupid)?
Wonder when it graduated to looting, robbing and punching people in the face.
|
06/30/11, 09:14 PM
|
 |
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 7,802
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by plowjockey
As stupid as "flash mobs" are, weren't they usaually just to dance around and act silly (stupid)?
Wonder when it graduated to looting, robbing and punching people in the face.
|
I don't know when it changed. It started of as an entertaining trend and now something has gone terribly wrong. Do you remember this from last December 12th?
Quote:
http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2010/12/...6281292184512/
OKLAHOMA CITY, Dec. 12 (UPI) -- Shoppers at an Oklahoma mall enjoyed a holiday treat as a flash-mob of singers performed Handel's Hallelujah Chorus in the food court, observers said.
Inspired by similar performances making the Internet rounds on YouTube, more than 1,000 people participated in the spontaneous rendition at the Quail Springs Mall in Oklahoma City
|
I watched it on the news and on youtube when that happened - it was a beautiful thing - it was inspiring. It brought tears to my eyes to see that many people spontaneously bringing so much happiness to so many other people.
Now what these other mobs are doing is just awful - in a few short months they've taken something that was nice and created happiness for people and they've corrupted it into violence and hatred.
Now the flash-mobs that had the best intentions and brought joy to people can never do it again because these other idiots have ruined it for everyone. 
.
|
06/30/11, 10:49 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Hill Country, Texas
Posts: 4,649
|
|
|
Martian Chick - you are so much in the MINORITY of the MINORITY. Not all blacks, but the black population has been duped for decades by the Progressive Left into thinking the government is there to provide them with everything and when they don't get it - many, not all TAKE IT. Rather than statistics about your small town which I am sure has small town values, dig up statistics on the black population in general that support your position.
|
06/30/11, 11:13 PM
|
 |
Very Dairy
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Dysfunction Junction
Posts: 14,603
|
|
I love it. Here we have a white guy (I presume) explaining to a black woman what black people are like! 
__________________
"I love all of this mud," said no one, ever.
|
07/01/11, 02:53 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kansas
Posts: 331
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elffriend
|
Love it!! 
|
07/01/11, 06:25 AM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Fantasyland
Posts: 1,024
|
|
|
Boston Tea Party was carefully planned long in advance.
__________________
Legion of Doom applicant
|
07/01/11, 07:58 AM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: KS
Posts: 1,219
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Gue
Wait, wasn't the Boston tea party a flash mob?
|
Well let's see, one group was people protesting an oppressive king and led to the Revolution that created the United States, the other group is made up of thugs who just want to intimidate, injure, and steal from innocent folks in their communities, just for the fun of it.
I can certainly see how you could confuse the two.
|
07/01/11, 09:56 AM
|
 |
Original recipe!
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: NC foothills
Posts: 13,984
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by chickenista
It started hundreds of years ago.
Roving bands of young men storming through the villages and markets, turning over stalls, whacking people on the head etc...
And groups of horsemen thundering through, crushing people under the hooves, grabbing up people and dragging them along...
This is nothing new.
It has just been a while.
|
And wilding!
Let's not forget that.
In the 80's this same behavior was called, 'wilding'.
This is nothing new at all...
|
07/01/11, 10:02 AM
|
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NE FL
Posts: 4,152
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by YuccaFlatsRanch
AT ITS WORST - SO FAR!!
Flash Mobs, a new development of the "entitlement mentality" seem to be rapidly on the increase. They seem, at least from what is shown in the news media to be a largely Black Population phenomena. I wonder if it is somehow a disaffection with the lack Of "Obama Cash" that has been distributed??
I also think it is a sign of things to come and come quickly if the bottom falls out of the economy and/or there were truly shortages in the economy. Civil unrest is just around the corner if either happens.
|
I have seen predominantly white/multiracial crowds. Not sure where you are getting the black thing from.
|
07/01/11, 10:05 AM
|
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NE FL
Posts: 4,152
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by atobols
That's exactly what I was thinking. Flash mobs were supposed to be fun and entertaining and had nothing to do with any type of violence. The flash mobs I know get together and strike poses, dance, or sing.
These violent gatherings are giving flash mobs a bad name! |
These violent gathering are not flash mobs but flash riots and flash criminal disorderly conduct.
Flash mobs were and in much of the media are still just what you describe - groups of people quitely getting together to turn real life into a momentary musical number.
|
07/01/11, 10:06 AM
|
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NE FL
Posts: 4,152
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by megafatcat
Boston Tea Party was carefully planned long in advance.
|
As are real flash mobs.
They were originally musical numbers. Flashmobs not the tea party.
|
07/01/11, 10:37 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Hill Country, Texas
Posts: 4,649
|
|
|
First - a white guy can comment quite accurately on Progressive, entitlement mentality regardless of race. Regardless of race - the entitlement mentality is exactly what is the problem.
Flash Mobs violence/ theft is a major problem regardless of race. I have just seen the majority of the flash mobs being black. I denounce them regardless of who is perpetrating the crime.
|
07/01/11, 11:16 AM
|
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NE FL
Posts: 4,152
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by YuccaFlatsRanch
First - a white guy can comment quite accurately on Progressive, entitlement mentality regardless of race. Regardless of race - the entitlement mentality is exactly what is the problem.
Flash Mobs violence/ theft is a major problem regardless of race. I have just seen the majority of the flash mobs being black. I denounce them regardless of who is perpetrating the crime.
|
1st I never said one couldn't.
Not sure how flash rioting is entitlement mentality, however. You never really connected that set of dots as far as I can tell.
My wide spread use of media has shown more white/multi-racial flashmobs. Now you wanna talk about flash riots . . . different story entirely.
The media may be calling this new "Flash RIoting" or "Flash Criminal Behavior" as a flash mob but that doesn't make it so. It is just a convenient label. Typical for the media calling something a thing which it isn't.
|
07/01/11, 12:58 PM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Eastern North Carolina
Posts: 34,187
|
|
Quote:
|
I have seen predominantly white/multiracial crowds. Not sure where you are getting the black thing from.
|
From the news reports.
Where are you getting your info from?
__________________
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
|
07/01/11, 01:01 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Central New York State
Posts: 5,694
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by YuccaFlatsRanch
Martian Chick - you are so much in the MINORITY of the MINORITY. Not all blacks, but the black population has been duped for decades by the Progressive Left into thinking the government is there to provide them with everything and when they don't get it - many, not all TAKE IT. Rather than statistics about your small town which I am sure has small town values, dig up statistics on the black population in general that support your position.
|
What you are seeing portrayed in the media is the minority of the minority! My city is correctly classified as a mid-sized, rust-belt city. We've seen an increase in crime and have been forced to prosecute gangs using the RICO racketeering laws.
However, I have traveled extensively in the course of my profession and in the course of the volunteer work that I do. I was raised in an extremely small village. I have family members in Atlanta, Tampa, Philadelphia, New York City, Miami and Charlotte. My volunteer work has familiarized me with the seedier sides of large urban centers. As much as my sense of vanity would like to believe that I am an exceptional individual, I know that I am not. I know too many people who look like me... people who work hard everyday to sustain their families.
So many people here at HT complain that the media reports are biased...What makes you think that their reports of violent flash mobs are not biased? Why would you believe that the media's portrayal of blacks is wholly accurate? Why do you find it so hard to believe that I am in the majority?
Last edited by TheMartianChick; 07/01/11 at 01:08 PM.
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Rate This Thread |
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:16 PM.
|
|
