The wasteful older generation.

Win07_351 · #41 04/26/11, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chamoisee

Probably not, if you are a white male. Those of us who are not white males have this crazy idea that we are people too and should be treated as equals.

I'm not really sure what you mean by this. Could you clarify some?

Yvonne's hubby · #42 04/26/11, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fowler

Just seeing who's paying attention....LOL

Whats funny is I remember paperbags....then the greenies said we were destroying trees...and to use plastic bags..they were the ones that created this plastic bag fiasco.

When I was growing up the stock boys cut the lids off the boxes as they stocked the shelves, and they were brought to a bin by the register, your groceries were packed back in those boxes to be carried home.... but, that was before we had the green thing going on.

Yvonne's hubby · #43 04/26/11, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chamoisee

Probably not, if you are a white male. Those of us who are not white males have this crazy idea that we are people too and should be treated as equals.

Yep, them old white males...... I believe it was some of those white male types that wrote these words, and adopted them into the highest law of our land.

"The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states."
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Yvonne's hubby · #44 04/26/11, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiempo

I realize it's just a tale, but if a grocery store clerk told me not to take plastic, I'd invite them to come to my house and pick up the dog crap with their bare hands

I let the dog take care of his personal issues at my place. I just cant seem to wrap my mind around following a dog around in the woods to pick up his poo.

Yvonne's hubby · #45 04/26/11, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chamoisee

Which is why the older generation blew up gigantic trees with dynamite to make....toothpicks? HUGE old growth trees....for toothpicks.

Common sense..... those "huge old growth" trees are usually useless for anything other than tooth picks or pulp for paper. The majority of those trees have suffered wind damage over the centuries, leaving them pretty much shattered inside. Of course, when one just looks at the outside... they envision useful lumber to build all sorts of homes, furniture, cabinets, and a myriad of other things, but professional timber men know that is just not reality. Those trees are toothpicks inside, and are harvested for exactly that.

chamoisee · #46 04/26/11, 10:07 PM

That's because you look at them and you don't see a huge old growth tree that was alive for hundreds of years, you see something to be used. That tree is not useless. Not everything has to be used up to have value. Some things have inherent value. The earth, nature, old growth trees, plant and animal species, fish in the ocean, these things have inherent worth above and beyond what we can use them up for.

chamoisee · #47 04/26/11, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Win07_351

I'm not really sure what you mean by this. Could you clarify some?

Sure, in another thread. I'll start it.

Sonshine · #48 04/26/11, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Vet

I can remember working at a 7 up bottling plant as a salesman. We used to get back bottles that had to be sorted as to size and brand so that they can wash them and refill them. It was at that time cans became popular and only sold at the Air Force Base because they did not want to store bottles. I also worked at a store that had paper bags or boxes to put things in. I can remember using a push mower (human powered). I never got new clothes except for the ones that my mother sewed together. My first set of clothes I ever had (store bought) was when I was in the 6 grade and got a pair of jeans to wear. I can remember when TV came to our area and one of the first things on it. It was Eisenhower last campaign for president.Did I waste anything yes but not as much as the ones that came much latter. The through away generation came much latter. When I became an adult and moved out on my own my trash was a small paper bag full. And I went to visit my sister and the garbage was put on the back porch to be picked up every other day in a gallon pail.The garbage that I had was either fed to the dogs or hogs.I learned to shave with a safety razor and did until very recently.

I remember walking around a park or down the street searching for bottles to turn in for the money. As for clothes, my Mom made a lot of ours.

Sonshine · #49 04/26/11, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fowler

I remember getting my first new outfit in 6th grade from Montgomery Wards...I always worn hand me downs....I went to first grade without shoes...LOL
And we had a black and white TV maybe 20 inches when I was in the 3rd grade the Remote and antenna was us kids...LOL and there were only maybe 6 channels..and they all signed off at midnight.
I use to take used Dr.Pepper/Coke bottles to the store and buy penny candy and ice cream.
And this was in the 70's

You got 6 channels???? We only had 3 and we had rabbit ears with tin foil on it.

Sonshine · #50 04/26/11, 10:43 PM

My problem with the whole "green technology" stuff isn't so much that it's a liberal thing, well, maybe it is. It's because they have a tendency to put lizards and bugs needs above that of people. Sorry, but IMO man's needs should come before that of a lizard.

MO_cows · #51 04/26/11, 10:46 PM

There is a local dairy that still sells milk in glass jugs, and boy howdy, it is good stuff. There is a $1.50 deposit per bottle, just take the empty jugs back to the store. No biggee. Every once in a while you can still find a Coke in a glass bottle and it tastes better than in the plastic bottles or cans, too. I think glass can get ground up and melted to make more glass more efficently than plastic is recycled. I would like to see a lot more glass containers and less plastic. Plastic is a petroleum product after all. Somehow we have been "new and improved" into a bunch of wasteful products and packaging.

Yvonne's hubby · #52 04/26/11, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chamoisee

That's because you look at them and you don't see a huge old growth tree that was alive for hundreds of years, you see something to be used. That tree is not useless. Not everything has to be used up to have value. Some things have inherent value. The earth, nature, old growth trees, plant and animal species, fish in the ocean, these things have inherent worth above and beyond what we can use them up for.

Yep we have plenty of resources to go around, so lets cut down healthy younger trees to make them tooth picks out of. Let them old growth ones go ahead and rot out, fall to the ground and waste them entirely. Gee werent they pretty! what a shame that the greenies then throw a fit to keep roads from being built that might actually let someone into the forest to see that tree..... Yeppers.....That sounds green to me.

**Tiempo** · #53 04/26/11, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Yvonne's hubby

I let the dog take care of his personal issues at my place. I just cant seem to wrap my mind around following a dog around in the woods to pick up his poo.

I don't pick it up in the woods silly! I pick it up around the yard

chamoisee · #54 04/26/11, 11:04 PM

There are birds that only nest in old growth timber, old tree like the one you say is so worthless. It's pretty much why we don't have the Lord God bird anymore. But I know....you only care about animals you can eat or use up. :-(

Yvonne's hubby · #55 04/26/11, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by chamoisee

There are birds that only nest in old growth timber, old tree like the one you say is so worthless. It's pretty much why we don't have the Lord God bird anymore. But I know....you only care about animals you can eat or use up. :-(

I have no plans to eat my dog, hes a nice lil feller. what kind of monster do you really think I am anyway? Because I am practical makes me an evil person or something? Species have been going extinct long before man even entered the picture, they will be going extinct long after mankind has destroyed himself as well. Its part of nature... you adapt to your changing environment..... or you disappear and some new species will fill the void.

Yvonne's hubby · #56 04/26/11, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiempo

I don't pick it up in the woods silly! I pick it up around the yard

Ok, my dog is pretty good about going to the woods, probably because he has brains enough to know that I am not going to pick up his poo in the yard either!

Fowler · #57 04/27/11, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tiempo

I don't pick it up in the woods silly! I pick it up around the yard

Just throwing my 2 cents around....But have you tried a better dog food?

I have Maremma's...and when they poop it's almost decomposed the next day...I think the dune beetles like what my dogs are eating....lol

Fowler · #58 04/27/11, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by chamoisee

There are birds that only nest in old growth timber, old tree like the one you say is so worthless. It's pretty much why we don't have the Lord God bird anymore. But I know....you only care about animals you can eat or use up. :-(

Then you would hate me...I just cut down a 50-70 year old tree in my yard...ants got at it and it rotted and created a crack around the whole trunk...everytime the wind blew you could hear it creeking....we will be using the wood from that old tree next year to heat my house...The tree that lived next to it will now be able to flourish.

Many years ago....I planted seed pine trees for a paper company in Virgina...it takes about 10 years to grow...Just thought I'd let you know that NO old oak trees were hurt to make paper towels/tolet paper...It's called a tree farm...to supply such luxuries.

chickenista · #59 04/27/11, 08:05 AM

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I refuse to use those "green" bags at the grocery store. Those canvas bags are, IMHO, nothing but a sales gimmick.......QUOTE]

I use them because they are AWESOME!!!
They are cheap, compared to most things you can buy these days. (99 cents)
You can fit a ton of groceries into them, about 3 plastic bags worth.
And I can throw them over my shoulder, even when they are full, making for fewer trips to the house.
I hang one on the hook by the door and stuff the rest into that one and carry one bag back to the car.

But Olivehill said it best.. the thing about no one getting anywhere by pointing fingers. Way to go, Olive!!

whiskeylivewire · #60 04/27/11, 08:45 AM

I'm a conservative and I love the canvas bags. I'm also a hunter/trapper/fisher"woman" and I do believe I support the environment more because of this. I absolutely HATE going fishing somewhere and seeing people's trash(usually beer cans) thrown all along the water way. Good grief, pick it up and throw it away.

I've read the OP several times in the past few months and I always enjoy it.