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Sadly, how many more girls are goig to see this, realize they could be a part of a town's 15 minutes of fame and have unprotected sex, not caring if they get pregnant or not? Cause now, it has been shown on the news and it is WAY cool.
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01/16/11, 10:58 AM
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many if not most of these children will be raised by the grandparents,
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Between children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren, some of those grandparents will raise three generations of children. If not for them, think how much more dismal the situation could be. Even though the odds are not in the favor, some of them manage to be successful. They stiil posess the sense of responsibilty, that for whatever reason, was not inherited by the more recent generations
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01/16/11, 07:07 PM
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Sounds like "abstinence only" sex ed training.
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You Nailed it!
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01/16/11, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chickenista
That article was very interesting...funny and sad too.
It talks about about how the girls didn't really want to have sex.
They are putting together a program to help them to say, 'no' to the boys.
Just say no...
Obviously they are not aware of ther reality of the situation.
If women didn't want to have sex, then the human race would have died out years ago.
Perhaps a huge pile of birth control methods made available at all times would do a bit more to quell the pregnancy rate than a 'just say no' campaign only aimed at girls.
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When you were a teen weren't you ever pressured by any of your boyfriends to have sex?
These are not women, they are girls. It's easier for women to have self control and say no than it is for girls.
I agree they need more than a "just say no" campaign aimed at the girls. Something needs to be done to focus on the boys that are getting the girls pregnant. I'm seeing a lot of comments here that seems like all the onus is being put on the girls shoulders for their lack of responsibility - why is it that the boys are getting a pass for getting the girls pregnant and it's all the girl's responsibility to abstain?
Every time this topic of teen pregnancy comes up there are too many people get ragging on the evil girls, but the innocent boys can do no harm and rarely get mentioned let alone get a slap on the wrist for their participation.
Sorry, but I think there's a lot of inequality still happening in dealing with this. It takes two to tango and something needs to be done to convince the boys to grow some brains and keep other growing things in their pants. If it wasn't for the boys lack of responsibility and inability to say no the girls wouldn't be getting pregnant.
Focus MORE on a penalty for the boys, not just mainly on the girls, because it's the boys that are getting them pregnant. These are not immaculate conceptions.
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01/17/11, 03:15 AM
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01/17/11, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by naturelover
When you were a teen weren't you ever pressured by any of your boyfriends to have sex?
These are not women, they are girls. It's easier for women to have self control and say no than it is for girls.
I agree they need more than a "just say no" campaign aimed at the girls. Something needs to be done to focus on the boys that are getting the girls pregnant. I'm seeing a lot of comments here that seems like all the onus is being put on the girls shoulders for their lack of responsibility - why is it that the boys are getting a pass for getting the girls pregnant and it's all the girl's responsibility to abstain?
Every time this topic of teen pregnancy comes up there are too many people get ragging on the evil girls, but the innocent boys can do no harm and rarely get mentioned let alone get a slap on the wrist for their participation.
Sorry, but I think there's a lot of inequality still happening in dealing with this. It takes two to tango and something needs to be done to convince the boys to grow some brains and keep other growing things in their pants. If it wasn't for the boys lack of responsibility and inability to say no the girls wouldn't be getting pregnant.
Focus MORE on a penalty for the boys, not just mainly on the girls, because it's the boys that are getting them pregnant. These are not immaculate conceptions.
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Um... The girl will apply for welfare/foodstamps/WIC, and the boy will give up 25% of his paycheck for the next 18 years. In many states, there are state-mandated wage garnishments for child support from the start - no waiting for daddy to fall behind on his payments. If he dodges paying by working under the table or just not working, jail time is in his future. Now, just how much more of a penalty do you want?
Education is the key, not punishment. These kids need to be viscerally aware of the consequences of their actions. Unfortunately, most of them have not had to deal with consequences their whole life, so it's kinda silly to expect them to anticipate them now.
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01/17/11, 10:47 AM
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I wonder how much of this is a peer thing? Instead of being a shameful thing, it has almost become "cool" now. And now that it has hit the media, how many more will go along?
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I agree with this line of thought. My youngest DD is a 19yo college student, but knows several of her childhood friends who are now mothers. Even though she is "right" in not having a child out of wedlock as a young teen, she feels left out. She sees the girls with their cute babies, and has that desire to be a Momma someday. That natural God-given desire to be a Mommy starts when kids hit their hormone years. And some sucomb to it. As they see their peers have children they want the same thing.
As parents, we just need to tell them over and over and over how much better it is to wait until they are mature enough to be parents. It's hard when government rewards bad choices. But on the other hand, we cannot ignore these young ladies and their babies or leave them to rot in poverty. It's a fine line of doing what is right without rewarding poor choices.
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01/17/11, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Beowulf
Um... The girl will apply for welfare/foodstamps/WIC, and the boy will give up 25% of his paycheck for the next 18 years. In many states, there are state-mandated wage garnishments for child support from the start - no waiting for daddy to fall behind on his payments. If he dodges paying by working under the table or just not working, jail time is in his future. Now, just how much more of a penalty do you want?
Education is the key, not punishment. These kids need to be viscerally aware of the consequences of their actions. Unfortunately, most of them have not had to deal with consequences their whole life, so it's kinda silly to expect them to anticipate them now.
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If she will furnish the name of the male.
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01/17/11, 03:35 PM
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If she will furnish the name of the male.
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I can only go by local state laws, but in Texas, if she cannot narrow it down to one, the state will take a list and DNA test all candidates until they find the father. If the mother will not provide a name, she will not be eligible for public assistance.
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Originally Posted by naturelover
When you were a teen weren't you ever pressured by any of your boyfriends to have sex?
These are not women, they are girls. It's easier for women to have self control and say no than it is for girls.
I agree they need more than a "just say no" campaign aimed at the girls. Something needs to be done to focus on the boys that are getting the girls pregnant. I'm seeing a lot of comments here that seems like all the onus is being put on the girls shoulders for their lack of responsibility - why is it that the boys are getting a pass for getting the girls pregnant and it's all the girl's responsibility to abstain?
Every time this topic of teen pregnancy comes up there are too many people get ragging on the evil girls, but the innocent boys can do no harm and rarely get mentioned let alone get a slap on the wrist for their participation.
Sorry, but I think there's a lot of inequality still happening in dealing with this. It takes two to tango and something needs to be done to convince the boys to grow some brains and keep other growing things in their pants. If it wasn't for the boys lack of responsibility and inability to say no the girls wouldn't be getting pregnant.
Focus MORE on a penalty for the boys, not just mainly on the girls, because it's the boys that are getting them pregnant. These are not immaculate conceptions.
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this goes back to the parents of the kids that nare having kids. they have no time or won't take the time to train there kids. keeping up with the Jones's and all that . if they could live within there means this would be less of a problem.
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01/17/11, 07:18 PM
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I lived in Memphis for over 5 years, and had 4 children and 1 neice attend public schools. I can attest that the public schools there DO NOT teach abstinence only sex ed! There is a huge thing around there about having babies to get welfare when they need money. This happens with all the races living there. I seen 12 year old girls in our neighborhood pregnant, and one night down the road two 15 year old girls, one 7 months along and the other holding a 6 month old baby were gunned down in one of the girls front yard. Gangs are a big thing in Memphis, and the girls in the gangs are told to get pregnant to help support the men folk.
Edited to add: The school is located in Frayser, high gang activity in that area. I lived right on the other side of the tracks next to this town.
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