I think the dead bird thing is creepy.

EasyDay · #61 01/07/11, 09:19 AM

Late coming into the thread...

Comments on weird happenings that I've read since this broke the news:

No, it wasn't lightening or fireworks. Besides, birds have dropped dead in Switzerland, New Zealand, Kentucky, Tennessee, AR, and LA. Possibly more places in a locale where no one noticed, or have been slow to report?

Re: the fish. No, not toxicity. At least here in AR, because it was only drum fish affected. Chesapeake bay deaths involved different species... many croaker and spot (warm water fish). But, this has also happened in Brazil... like 100 tons (?) of sardines have washed up dead.

Government?
HAARP?

SOMETHING is going on. Although nature often takes care of itself by maintaining survivable poplulation levels, this is just too many things at one time.

Ok, I'm done, I think... well, until I think of something else.

ETA: Correction.... SWEDEN, not Switzerland.
And in the news this morning, they added Florida and one of the Carolinas, as well as Italy.

All I can say is, "Even so, come Lord Jesus" !!!

wendle · #62 01/07/11, 09:20 AM

Here's another in Illinois, but no numbers
http://www.associatedcontent.com/art..._in.html?cat=8

wendle · #63 01/07/11, 10:17 AM

Here's a link to recent earthquakes in the area. Reading up on the New Madrid Fault, scary it is expected to be active again by 2040, there is potential for a major earthquake.
The bird and fish deaths in other countries don't match up with this , but the massive fish and bird kill near here do.
http://showme.net/~fkeller/quake/

more speculation
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread647494/pg1

wendle · #64 01/07/11, 10:26 AM

Here is a map of mass animal deaths(birds and fish). Looks like most of the unexplained are in US near the New Madrid Fault and the BP oil spill ocean front.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...b&source=embed

Ed Norman · #65 01/07/11, 10:30 AM

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FACT CHECK: Mass bird, fish deaths occur regularly
AP

By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP Science Writer Seth Borenstein, Ap Science Writer – Thu Jan 6, 5:57 pm ET

WASHINGTON – First, the blackbirds fell out of the sky on New Year's Eve in Arkansas. In recent days, wildlife have mysteriously died in big numbers: 2 million fish in the Chesapeake Bay, 150 tons of red tilapia in Vietnam, 40,000 crabs in Britain and other places across the world.

Blogs connected the deadly dots, joking about the "aflockalypse" while others saw real signs of something sinister, either biblical or environmental.

The reality, say biologists, is that these mass die-offs happen all the time and usually are unrelated.

Federal records show they happen on average every other day somewhere in North America. Usually, we don't notice them and don't try to link them to each other.

"They generally fly under the radar," said ornithologist John Wiens, chief scientist at the California research institution PRBO Conservation Science.

Since the 1970s, the U.S. Geological Survey's National Wildlife Health Center in Wisconsin has tracked mass deaths among birds, fish and other critters, said wildlife disease specialist LeAnn White. At times the sky and the streams just turn deadly. Sometimes it's disease, sometimes pollution. Other times it's just a mystery.

In the past eight months, the USGS has logged 95 mass wildlife die-offs in North America and that's probably a dramatic undercount, White said. The list includes 900 some turkey vultures that seemed to drown and starve in the Florida Keys, 4,300 ducks killed by parasites in Minnesota, 1,500 salamanders done in by a virus in Idaho, 2,000 bats that died of rabies in Texas, and the still mysterious death of 2,750 sea birds in California.

On average, 163 such events are reported to the federal government each year, according to USGS records. And there have been much larger die-offs than the 3,000 blackbirds in Arkansas. Twice in the summer of 1996, more than 100,000 ducks died of botulism in Canada.

"Depending on the species, these things don't even get reported," White said.

Weather — cold and wet weather like in Arkansas New Year's Eve when the birds fell out of the sky — is often associated with mass bird deaths, ornithologists say. Pollution, parasites and disease also cause mass deaths. Some are even blaming fireworks for the blackbird deaths.

So what's happening this time?

Blame technology, says famed Harvard biologist E.O. Wilson. With the Internet, cell phones and worldwide communications, people are noticing events, connecting the dots more.

"This instant and global communication, it's just a human instinct to read mystery and portents of dangers and wondrous things in events that are unusual," Wilson told The Associated Press on Thursday. "Not to worry, these are not portents that the world is about to come to an end."

Wilson and the others say instant communications — especially when people can whip out smart phones to take pictures of critter carcasses and then post them on the Internet — is giving a skewed view of what is happening in the environment.

The irony is that mass die-offs — usually of animals with large populations — are getting the attention while a larger but slower mass extinction of thousands of species because of human activity is ignored, Wilson said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110106/...ife_fact_check

EasyDay · #66 01/07/11, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wendle

Here's a link to recent earthquakes in the area. Reading up on the New Madrid Fault, scary it is expected to be active again by 2040, there is potential for a major earthquake.
The bird and fish deaths in other countries don't match up with this , but the massive fish and bird kill near here do.
http://showme.net/~fkeller/quake/

more speculation
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread647494/pg1

The "big one" of the New Madrid fault was supposed to have happened (per experts of the day) back in the late 70s. We all (in my area) prepped, as well as the schools stepping up (WAY up) the earthquake drills. Anything could happen at anytime, now.

I don't believe that the birds' death had anything to do with that, but JMO.

What I DO find interesting is that, one scientist was saying that the earthquake in Chile last year shifted the magnetic pole by 3". He was saying that, to us humans, it seems like no big deal. But, to animal life, especially those who rely on migration for survival, it's a HUGE deal. He said we'll see the results in nature eventually. Are these the results?

I listened to him months and months ago... before the bird/fish deaths... so, don't know if I can find a link. But, news of the deaths instantly sent my memory back to this guy. Interesting and worthy of more research.

Bearfootfarm · #67 01/07/11, 12:30 PM

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FACT CHECK: Mass bird, fish deaths occur regularly
AP

Some don't want to hear facts if they can imagine something ominous

poppy · #68 01/07/11, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearfootfarm

Some don't want to hear facts if they can imagine something ominous

We had a single large bird drop out of the sky on our property the other day. It was strange. I had seen it circling by chicken pen before and was keeping an eye on it. There was also a loud boom just before it fell. Weird. I have no clue what caused it.

MidwestGal · #69 01/07/11, 12:55 PM

Does anyone think it may just be an elaborate hoax by some sick individuals that threw birds they killed out a small airplane? Could they have killed the fish and put them in these places when noone was looking? I admit it, I am a sceptic.

MidwestGal · #70 01/07/11, 12:55 PM

And now there are copycats in other places...

Paumon · #71 01/07/11, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MidwestGal

Does anyone think it may just be an elaborate hoax by some sick individuals that threw birds they killed out a small airplane? Could they have killed the fish and put them in these places when noone was looking? I admit it, I am a sceptic.

No, because it is on far too large a scale for it to be a hoax. This is happening with tens of thousands of birds and multiple tons of fish around the world, not just a small number of animals in one or two places.

wendle · #72 01/07/11, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by poppy

We had a single large bird drop out of the sky on our property the other day. It was strange. I had seen it circling by chicken pen before and was keeping an eye on it. There was also a loud boom just before it fell. Weird. I have no clue what caused it.

Hmm, maybe in increase in lead fragments in the atmosphere.

wendle · #73 01/07/11, 01:54 PM

I think it is important to be aware of what is going on around us.

Karen · #74 01/07/11, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MidwestGal

Does anyone think it may just be an elaborate hoax by some sick individuals that threw birds they killed out a small airplane? Could they have killed the fish and put them in these places when noone was looking? I admit it, I am a sceptic.

Not when we're talking about thousands and thousands of birds (almost a million in total) and litterly several TONS of fish -- all different spieces, on the same dates, in all different locations on earth.

Bearfootfarm · #75 01/07/11, 02:36 PM

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There was also a loud boom just before it fell. Weird. I have no clue what caused it

When you heard the "boom" was there a thumping sensation on your shoulder?

arabian knight · #76 01/07/11, 05:27 PM

I think the dead bird thing is creepy. - General Chat

naturelover · #77 01/08/11, 03:31 AM

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/st...ds-quebec.html

Friday, January 7, 2011

A farmer in Saint-Augustin-de-Desmaures has found about 80 dead pigeons on his farm 20 kilometres west of Quebec City. Sylvain Turmel first noticed the dead birds in his field on Dec. 18.

"I found two dead birds in the morning, which is normal, birds sometimes die," he said. "But when I came back one hour later, another 25 had fallen," said Turmel. "In the time it took me to pick them up, five more fell to the ground!"

Turmel called police and the fire department. They couldn't provide him with any answers, but he said while they were there, more birds fell to their deaths. He said wildlife officials with Quebec's Ministry of Natural Resources collected the birds for analysis but they are also stumped.

"All they can tell me is that it's not avian influenza, it's not the West Nile virus, and it's not poison," which is what officials suspected at first.

"It won't stop. I'm finding more [dead] birds every day."

Turmel said that after they fall the pigeons usually remain on the ground for one or two hours before dying.

I think the dead bird thing is creepy. - General Chat

farmer Sylvain Turmel in Saint-Augustin-de-Desmaures, Que., picks up a dead pigeon Friday.

EasyDay · #78 01/08/11, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by wendle

I think it is important to be aware of what is going on around us.

I agree.
Far too easy to dismiss some things... and then when SHTF, those folks maintain their "deer in the headlight" expression.

Shygal · #79 01/08/11, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by poppy

We had a single large bird drop out of the sky on our property the other day. It was strange. I had seen it circling by chicken pen before and was keeping an eye on it. There was also a loud boom just before it fell. Weird. I have no clue what caused it.

I hope it wasnt a raptor species of single large bird, that a loud boom knocked out of the sky

Shygal · #80 01/08/11, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MidwestGal

Does anyone think it may just be an elaborate hoax by some sick individuals that threw birds they killed out a small airplane? Could they have killed the fish and put them in these places when noone was looking? I admit it, I am a sceptic.

How would you get 4000 dead birds in the first place, let alone fly around the world with other dead birds, and carry tons of dead fish in your plane too?