Arctic not completely dark in winters anymore

Accoording to the Sagas (and general history, too)from 1000 to nearly 1400 AD, Greenland was able to support horse, cattle and sheep at both of the Norse settlements. After that, the climate got colder and the Norse were not able to adapt.

Climate is cyclical, nothing more, nothing less. I am sure that Krakatoa, Pinatubo and St. Hellens have had more to do with climate change than all the people in the world.

We contribute, but those who say that man is the SOLE reason for climate change is absurd (and yes, there are people who insist on that, EarthFirst! and other eco-terrorists come to mind)

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And those terrible Inuits, increasing global warming by using their snowmobiles!

They need to go back to dogsleds! (and yes, I am kidding).

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Here's another story about the conference in Cancun:

Irony: Global Warming Conference in Cancun Hit with Record Cold TempsBy marfdrat on December 11, 2010

Remember the plan, no matter what happens, it's caused by Global Warming. Cold, hot, wet, dry, stormy or calm, Global Warming causes it all, including volcanos and earthquakes.

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No, no, no!

Note in the original article, it's called climate change. Sorta silly to call it global warming in the midst of record cold.

You've got to pay attention, DeaconJim.

Why don't we just call it 'snake oil' and be done with it?

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And here is a rebuttal to that very same NYT article, explaining why they get their facts and findings.
http://www.climatechangedispatch.com...new-york-times

LOL, in light of the Climategate emails and the UN's wealth-redistribution plot, I'd say that would be a more accurate term.

You got that right.

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I don't believe I've heard anyone say that man has no effect, just not enough to make the kind of difference the GCC crowds want to believe that we have.

By the same token, the climate change proponents refuse to accept that it's at all cyclical, and insist that every thing is caused by man's interference in the world. If the temp goes up, if it goes down, if it's too wet, if it's too dry, if it's wet here and dry there, if it's cold here and warm there, it's ALL man-made climate change. How convenient.

I will be 50 years old in a few days, and AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER, there have been areas in drought, areas in flood, areas with higher than normal temps, and areas with lower than normal temps, ALL IN THE SAME YEAR. Then the areas of floods and droughts, etc. changes the next year. It CYCLES.

Interesting how the AGW proponents always seem to make a big point about how climate isnt weather and that you cant look at whats happening in your neck of the woods as any proof AGW isnt happening....and yet...they so readily accept a localized warm weather pattern or anecdotal observations by indigenous people as supporting proof of AGW. Even the IPCC acknowledges that there hasnt been a net increase in temps since 1998 and though 2010 was touted as being one (if not the) warmest years on record....it looks like the arctic storms in the northern hemisphere and extreme cold in the southern hemisphere will probably make 2010 somewhat less. So is that proof AGW is true..untrue? or is it just part of a cycle for this year? No doubt it will be hailed as proof of AGW regardless by some but something just smacks of desperation when this is the best that can be presented.

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Come on; Rush, Glenn and Faux Newz have all told them GW is bunk, so of course they're going to make snide remarks.
I'm suprised that haven't blamed Obama yet for this particular phenominon.

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I dont think Ive heard ANYONE here say its "solely" man that is doing it. But I have heard those here say that nothing man has done, has contributed

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Astrophysicist and meteorologist Piers Corbyn accurately predicted the record cold temps affecting Europe this winter. He says that the "globally warming" is based on fraudulent data and he says that "global cooling" is actually what is taking place and that he expects it to continue for another 25 years. He also says that climate temps affect carbon - not the other way around.


Pier's cyclic theory makes sense to me, as I am already aware of the cyclic nature of the climate in Oregon. Twenty or so year of dry followed by twenty or so years of wet. The state meteorologist that noted that cycle lost his job for speaking out against the global warming non-science.

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Hasn't this subject been beaten to death already? All I know is that if I give money to the World Wildlife Fund the iceberg that the polar bear is clinging to will somehow get bigger. I think they do it with mirrors.

Mostly what I hear is nothing Man can do will STOP it from changing

It's happening on Mars too
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...s-warming.html

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At least they pulled out a legit GW-linked explanation for this, unlike the folks who tried to say we were getting more earthquakes and volcanic eruptions due to GW...

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You are correct!

I believe NL is wasting her time.. Man made global warming is a fallacy and a myth. In 1922 they blamed cattle ranchers for global warming, yet we are still here. In 1908 they blamed cattle ranchers also, but the reality was a meteor that struck in Siberia.

Yet you and others continue to blame man for this.. Amazing how gullible some are. The only thing that is consistent in all these global warming articles is the desire for MORE MONEY AND CONTROL.

Gee I wonder why we are having colder then normal temperatures for the last month?
I know it is man-made global warming, yet at the same time if we have warmer temperatures then it is from man-made global warming..

So since there is nothing that isn't a cause of man-made global warming, that proves it isn't science.

Every solution that the liberal left comes up with calls for more of taxpayers money and giving up more control of our lives.. So this also tells me that it isn't science and is about money and control..

If there is a solution that doesn't give the Government more control or more of our tax dollars, then go for it..

But I'm TAXED OUT! Enough of the lies and false science.

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The fossil fuels we are burning represent hundreds of millions of years of concentrated energy. And we are releasing all that energy back into the atmosphere in a few short generations. Anyone with any sense should know this will affect the enviornment. Lets not make this a 'leftie vs. rightie' thing. We are not being good stewards of the land.

I have to agree with that.