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I am basically on the same page as Becca.I do go to church, not on a regular basis
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12/15/10, 07:35 PM
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Tink, I don't think that rises to it. Others have explained that they believe so and so, and that responder just explained their beliefs.
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I agree, the spirit in which it was posted was not mean spirited or bashing, just a stated reason for a belief. I am quite proud of us so far!
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I believe the children are our future, teach them well..........
Well, maybe save that one for another post.
I believe that there is a G-d who watches over me and wants me to be happy and succeed.
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Ahahah....I was going to do the same thing. 
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12/15/10, 08:06 PM
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12/15/10, 08:14 PM
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Good thread....
When religion comes up in my classroom, one thing I say that my students and I all agree on (no matter the religion) is most religions have some belief in accountability for behavior and the way you are to live.
That is one positive factor of religion...
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I am truly interested in those of you who do not believe in a higher power. Not bashing you, not thinking I am better or different because I do believe. Just so curious how you live a life w/out thinking there is more to it than this life. It may be freeing in a way I suppose, I take comfort in knowing and believing there is more. I appreciate that there has been no bashing on either side, and everyone I have seen posted on this thread seem like very nice people and I have read other threads by them as well, and I find them to be informative and not hateful. I did like the one who said they try to harm no others and just live their lives. My goal is to hurt noone, bash nobodies beliefs because they differ than mine. I do take comfort in my own beliefs and stand up for them. This is interesting to read other folks take on the question.
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12/15/10, 09:22 PM
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I am truly interested in those of you who do not believe in a higher power. Not bashing you, not thinking I am better or different because I do believe. Just so curious how you live a life w/out thinking there is more to it than this life. It may be freeing in a way I suppose, I take comfort in knowing and believing there is more. I appreciate that there has been no bashing on either side, and everyone I have seen posted on this thread seem like very nice people and I have read other threads by them as well, and I find them to be informative and not hateful. I did like the one who said they try to harm no others and just live their lives. My goal is to hurt noone, bash nobodies beliefs because they differ than mine. I do take comfort in my own beliefs and stand up for them. This is interesting to read other folks take on the question.
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I do not see the point of living my life today by focusing on a possible, mysterious future. I just do not see the point in that. If I know this is all there is, I am highly motivated to make the most of it and also do what I can to add something and good and positive to this clamorous, chaotic, wildly beautiful, sometimes ugly great chain of humanity, which will go on long after I am gone. I am simply not that special. I am just another organism who has had a chance to live on this planet.
I understand how (I think) religion came about and I understand the need for that comfort for some, but I just can't believe it. The more we learn in science, the more sense science makes. I can see how religion filled in some of the blanks, things we didn't understand. There is a lot we still don't know, but I am absolutely sure that no supreme being is behind any of it. It's just stuff we haven't figured out yet.
I am utterly content in my beliefs and feel no need whatsoever to hope for "something more". The absolute awe I feel at the beauty of the intricate, complex and so very perfect earth system, is more than enough for me.
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I don't believe in religion, I believe in having a personal relationship with Jesus. I tried the religion thing and instead of drawing me closer to God it pulled me so far away that I stopped believing in Him for a long time. I believe that I am a sinner, saved by grace. I believe that the followers of Christ are the church, not the buildings. I believe in heaven and hell. I also believe that I serve a merciful God, who created me and loves me.
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12/15/10, 11:05 PM
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Well said Sonshine, and I agree w/you. I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, just forgiven.
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12/15/10, 11:09 PM
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I am truly interested in those of you who do not believe in a higher power. Not bashing you, not thinking I am better or different because I do believe. Just so curious how you live a life w/out thinking there is more to it than this life. It may be freeing in a way I suppose, I take comfort in knowing and believing there is more. I appreciate that there has been no bashing on either side, and everyone I have seen posted on this thread seem like very nice people and I have read other threads by them as well, and I find them to be informative and not hateful. I did like the one who said they try to harm no others and just live their lives. My goal is to hurt noone, bash nobodies beliefs because they differ than mine. I do take comfort in my own beliefs and stand up for them. This is interesting to read other folks take on the question.
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We live life like it should be lived. This is the only life we have so we should make it the best we can.
Why would you want to live life expecting something in the future?
Why not live this life like you would live the life you are expecting in the future?
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12/15/10, 11:17 PM
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Understanding that the questions in these posts are rhetorical, not inflammatory. 
Told ya all I'd be watching like a hawk, lol.
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12/15/10, 11:18 PM
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pancho, I do live my life for today, tomorrow is not a guarantee. But for ME I take comfort in believing there is more after this life. I don't refrain from living and enjoying and trying to better this life. I became a widow at 31, and that event locked in solid my belief in God, and Heaven. I certainly do not think that my way of living is better than yours or anyones. I do find this thread very thought provoking. And I appreciate that noone has become ugly. I may disagree w/you or someone else, but I'm not going to bash anyone because they don't share the same feelings. That's just not the way I live my life. It is very interesting to hear from you and others. I'm just happy to share my beliefs and learn about others as well.
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12/15/10, 11:22 PM
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Honestly, tonasket, if we are wrong, we'll be dead and it won't matter anyway! (joking).
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12/15/10, 11:59 PM
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I do not know what is next, but I have an 'idea' that I really like.
Energy cannot be destroyed, only changed.
We are the sum of what we know.
Human knowledge, memory etc.. is nothing but a series of chemical and electrical impulses.
The electricity that fires our nerves and sparks in our brains is energy and cannot be destroyed, only it's form can change.
So when we die that energy is dispersed.
What becomes of it after that...? But it is still out there in somne form. Does it hold it's frequency? Does it retain ? Who knows..
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Raised Christian, now atheist. Although I really like the idea of heaven, or an afterlife, I don't believe it anymore. I REALLY dig the idea of reincarnation, but I don't believe it either.
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Well, could that explain the reported "hauntings?" Energy that cannot leave a place they were attached to?
(I also believe in ghosties).
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12/16/10, 12:11 AM
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. I REALLY dig the idea of reincarnation, but I don't believe it either.
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I really find some things in this world to be very interesting. One of them is child savants. How can a 3 year old paint like a master? How can a 2 year play the piano perfectly and songs and movements that they have never heard? My son had very detailed dreams of being on old man when he was a wee, wee boy. He was an old man and dying and his family was around him. I asked if he was a good man and he said he thought so. He worked in a hospital full of children and all of the children coughed.He couldn't make very many of them better. DS was under 3 years of age.
Things like this really, really make me wonder at all the things we do not know.
I am a great believer in 'possibility'.
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'Nista, if you're really interested in reincarnation you can put it to the test for yourself. See a qualified, reputable hypnotherapist and do a series of past life regressions. Get all the sessions recorded on video by a trusted friend present so that there's evidence that the hypnotherapist was not planting suggestions. If you're a good subject for hypnotism the results will leave you with no doubts in your mind about the reality of repeated reincarnations.
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I beleive in God of AAbraham Father of Jesus and The Alpha and the Omega the one.....Now on an intersting side Note...I was raised by a Catholic Father and Latterday Saint mother both sides of My Grandparents were devout One catholic, the Other LDS...But I chose baptist as a tween and thats my foundation...I often wonder how it is that some one with my past can be so blessed as I am to be clean. I do not attend Church for the very reasons Outlined in my up bringing...in other words organized religion seems so rigid...i read the word and commune with god in nature...I feel most at Peace when I have done something good and fruitful(not necessarily good as in good for the world but Productive) good to me is success... success is winning and winning is everything....I guess my religion(not my beleif) is success or working toward it. My belief is totally different it entails humbling yourself before the lord and realizing true success comes from the lamb....Good thread and good communications...I have enough science in my brain to see the points of the atheist , and all the rest...But I think beleif is a little more heart than brain...its more faith than knowledge...sometimes you just got to push the i beleive button and take that step....in the end I think we all go to church even on a thread with so many different opinions and beleifs...
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Peter is the rock or the foundation we are (in discussing this) fortifying that foundation.....To be truthful I have been all over this earth in many serious situations, seen wonderous and horrible things and I have always felt the face of christ looking after me....I guess for me its as plain as the nose on your face.. .it is because it must be....its just that plain....
My wish for everyone this season is that they find peace within no matter your beliefs...
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